The Movies Thread

henrys hand said:
Saw "Batman- The dark knight rises" recently:

It's a well-produced movie with some memorable action-scenes but...
The story is set up 8 years after the events in the last movie. Apparantely Batman remained non-active in those 8 years, and we see Bruce Wayne somehow handicapped and weak.

The explanation was that the death of his potential girlfriend demoralised him and so he retired.

Ok, why not?

But then a new enemy comes up, Bane, a member of the league of shadows and as we later get to know, supposedly the son of ra's al ghoul, coming to Gotham to complete his father's mission to destroy the corrupt city.

Unfortunately this is one of the most uninteresting characters I've yet seen in the whole Batman-movie-series, including the really bad Schumacher-parts.

Near the end it gets revealed that he is merely a sidekick of Talia, Raas al Ghoul's daughter. Now she would have been an interesting character but the reveal came way too late, it should have happened in the middle of the movie so that she gets some time to flesh out her character, plans, motivations...

So what was the plan? Wayne industries succesfully developed a fusion reactor, but Bruce Wayne decided not to go public with it because he fears it could be turned into a weapon?

Why? Haven't the US and other states already invented and developed nukes and fusion-bombs in Nolan's Batman-universe?

But people seemed to know what a nuclear bomb is when they discussed how to protect themselves so apparently nukes must already be publically known..

Ok, whatever, now Bane somehow found out about this secret invention and kidnapped the physicist working on that project and wants to use the core of it in order to destroy Gotham City.

But in order to get to it, Bruce Wayne has to give up control of Wayne Industries so that Talia Ghoul, who somehow because of her engagement for clean energy gets sidepromoted into the highest ranks of Wayne Industries, takes over.

They decide to use Catwoman (I suppose that should be her) to steal Wayne's fingerprints and with them they could bankrupt Wayne by buying highly speculative assets.

With Wayne losing all his money, he wants to prevent this nuclear fusion technology to fall into the wrong hands and like already said sidepromotes Talia to get control of it, cause he deems her to be trustworthy.

Bane enters the city, gets the reactor and takes the city as hostage. But instead of simply nuking the city, he wants to play a sort of people’s revolution against the mighty and rich, according to him in order to give the masses some hope before they all die.

Cue in a young police officer who got promoted to be a detective who visits Bruce Wayne and tells him that he knows he is Batman (because he saw him as Bruce Wayne visit the orphanage he was in and saw into his eyes and simply knew it!) and that Gotham needs Batman again.

Batman gets into action, Bane defeats Batman but he lets him alive and imprisons him in The Pit, also in order to let him have some vain hope of achieving to escape the pit. Because according to Bane this amounts to torture of the soul and is worse than death.

Of course Bruce Wayne achieves to escape and the big end-action can begin. Catwoman feeling guilty for having betrayed Bruce Wayne/Batman, helps him… Batman defeats Bane, but wait, what’s that? A knife in the back of Batman: Talia reveals her true identity and stabs Batman in the back, but then leaves him alive. With her words: So that he can feel the fire (of the nuclear explosion).

But look, Batman achieves to get hold of the reactor’s core and uses his awesome aviation-machine to carry it out into the sea saving the city by supposedly sacrificing his life.

Everyone thinks Batman is dead and the city sees in him now the true hero that he is. But Bruce Wayne surprisingly lives on, thanks to a last-minute-auto-pilot-patch he developed and inserted into his flying-machine, and the young police officer who simply knew that Bruce Wayne is Batman, and who has the name of Robin, decides to become the new Batman.

Unfortunately the whole story is extremely lame and fishy. What makes the movie still watchable are the high production-standards, the visuals, the soundtrack and some little humour surrounding Catwoman and seeing her driving Batman’s motorcycle.

But compared with Batman Begins and Dark Knight, this third part is imho very unsatisfactory.

Batman Begins gets a 8.0/10.
Batman Dark Knight gets a 8.5/10.
Batman Dark Knight Rises gets a 6.5/10.

Batman Returns is imho still the best, which gets a 9/10.
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You say all what you have and then say Batman Returns is the best?!

I also disagree with some of the things you say but can't be bothered going into it. You like what you like though.

Overall I'd say it is the 3rd best out of the 3 Nolan films but still some good bits in it. Like TDK, it will prob get better the more viewings it has. I love TDK and it's my favourite but on first viewings, Begins was the best for me. Loved it. It's still great now imo.
 
i have seen the remake (let me in) before the original (let the right one in). and i have to say this remake is pretty good. of course in the story and some happenings are small differences, but the main plot remains the same.

if you haven't seen the original, the remake still is very good.
in comparisson i would say the orignal is slightly better, but it's not like total recall or similar movies with bad remakes.

let me in is a solid "copy" and it's worth watching it.

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Sometimes I wonder myself why there are remakes of already good films?!?!
In the end it's all about generating money.

"let the right one in" as well as "the girl with the dragon tattoo" (millenium saga) are quite good in original version, but i think as those movies are not so well known as they are swedish production people think about remake them in hollywood to get more viewers and grab a lot of money with a good plot and some popular actors...
 
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American remakes of european or asian movies has a long tradition.

The reason is the language and the look of the actors, as american audiences don't like to read subtitles and don't identify as well with foreign looking actors.

But making an american remake of an older american movie needs more justification, like for example a hugely new insight/interpretation... but the current version of Total recall imho doesn't offer anything that would justify its existence and on top of that it is not as half as good as the original.
 
henrys hand said:
Why not?
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Enjoy what you want fella. I liked it but to me it's not as good as the newer ones. I just prefer the more grounded films opposed to Catwoman licking her hand and rubbing her head like she is cleaning herself and all that type of thing. Keaton was quality as Batman though.
 
PU6HY said:
Enjoy what you want fella. I liked it but to me it's not as good as the newer ones. I just prefer the more grounded films opposed to Catwoman licking her hand and rubbing her head like she is cleaning herself and all that type of thing. Keaton was quality as Batman though.
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I'm open to and welcome both approaches, Nolan's grounded versions and Burton's fairy/eccentric versions. And for me Batman Returns is really awesome, especially the eccentric character of Catwoman. How the cats reanimated her, the thing with the nine lives, her self-licking, her awesome leather-dress, the interaction with Bruce and Batman and the end-scene with her, eccentric but brilliant stuff if you ask me.

And it's not only Michelle Pfeiffer that excels in this movie, Danny devito and Christopher Walken equally impress with their characterization of Penguin and Max Schreck.
 
we7god said:
i have seen the remake (let me in) before the original (let the right one in). and i have to say this remake is pretty good. of course in the story and some happenings are small differences, but the main plot remains the same.

if you haven't seen the original, the remake still is very good.
in comparisson i would say the orignal is slightly better, but it's not like total recall or similar movies with bad remakes.

let me in is a solid "copy" and it's worth watching it.

EDIT:

Sometimes I wonder myself why there are remakes of already good films?!?!
In the end it's all about generating money.

"let the right one in" as well as "the girl with the dragon tattoo" (millenium saga) are quite good in original version, but i think as those movies are not so well known as they are swedish production people think about remake them in hollywood to get more viewers and grab a lot of money with a good plot and some popular actors...
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just watch the video i posted above and u will understand that slightly is not so slightly imo :)
 
The Shining - 9/10

I hadn't seen this before, but a remastered version has just been rereleased at some cinemas.
I'm not usually one for horror movies but this was fantastic!
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
just watch the video i posted above and u will understand that slightly is not so slightly imo :)
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I have seen both. As I mentioned, the remake, before the original.
I don't care about the youtube clip you posted - if watched it, but i don't share their opinion - they take themselfes, their opinion and films in general too serious. Not my thing.
For me movies are entertainment. Therefore the remake itself is still a good movie, if you don't know the original (which is better in all subjects).

I agree that it is not "original" and there was no need of a remake, as the original is better. I can understand the director of the original film and his opinion.

I watched it in german language instead of swedish with subtitles as my wife is not a fan of watching films in foreign language especially if it's not english and you have to follow subtitles.
I like the setting, the actors and locations and the total look of the original more than in the remake.

I have seen some remakes of films that were really worse compared to this one.
In the end of the day it's all about personal taste and opinions.
if you don't share, it's okay... ;)
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
Another Earth 10/10

a beautiful drama , has a heavy subject

YouTube - Another Earth Movie Trailer Official (HD)
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I remember going to see this at the cinema, was one of the best films I saw last year. Really thought provoking.

The cinema was virtually empty as I recall, which was a shame. I remember though two guys just in front of us who got up and walked out after ten minutes when they realised it wasn't a sc-fi action flick!
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
I remember going to see this at the cinema, was one of the best films I saw last year. Really thought provoking.

The cinema was virtually empty as I recall, which was a shame. I remember though two guys just in front of us who got up and walked out after ten minutes when they realised it wasn't a sc-fi action flick!
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Hmmmm, yeah watched that trailer, not sure if I may have joined the two guys. Noticed the guy from Lost is in it.

I might give it a watch and either 1. Verbally abuse you guys :D or 2. Personally thank you guys.



On a side-note from wathed movies, looking forward to The Hobbit.


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just watched Looper 6/10

great idea, good story, great actors, they did an awesome job on joseph gordon levitt's make up , he looks exactly like Willis but ummm....just...dunno i fell asleep for a half an hour in the middle though, something is missing from this or not right in it
 
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Kevin Hart: Laugh at my pain - 9/10

I haven't laugh as much at a stand up since Eddie Murphy's Delirious,
Great stand up from start to finish, only weak part his a particular joke he uses a bit more than he should and he use's it as the signing off line which was a bit weak but other than that, must watch for me personally.
 
saw The Hobbit yesterday
nothing special, it was fun but again, nothing that makes it memorable, LOTR had better characters imo, and there was nothing special about the 3d either, that part was a waste of money

7/10
 
aitken said:
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Kevin Hart: Laugh at my pain - 9/10

I haven't laugh as much at a stand up since Eddie Murphy's Delirious,
Great stand up from start to finish, only weak part his a particular joke he uses a bit more than he should and he use's it as the signing off line which was a bit weak but other than that, must watch for me personally.
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I watched Richard Pryor: Live in Concert again the other night

Forgot how funny the guy was
 
Looper

Wow, what a great movie. It has some problems:

Why should criminal organizations use a time-machine for simple murder-acts? They could as well murder in their time and burn the bodies, would be much cheaper.
And the criminal organization seems very incompetent, both in the future and in the present, unable to properly keep Bruce Willis in check when they have captured him.

But overall it's such an awesome vision, that I can overlook them, cause the main-part of what the movie is about (
time-travel with different overlapping time-lines and questions of morality
) is handled pretty well.

And the camera-work, editing... is top-notch.

Imho nearly a modern classic, like Matrix 1 and 12 Monkeys, only the above mentioned problems keep it back a bit. 8.5/10.
 
the dark knight... i dont know, not so great. I thought the introduction of the next character was cool, but overall was ok. Anne hathaway gave me some goood wank material
 
Moonrise kingdom is one of the finest wes anderson movie. Great casting, i guess his style is really loved by the best hollywood actors.

Loopers: just watched it. I thought it was meh. The plot is a mix of some other scifi movies.

If you like black weird comedies and time travel thing then "safety not guaranteed" is a brilliant one.
 
i heard that its the best JB movie since 2000 or dunno since when im not really into it

Issidingo said:
If you like black weird comedies and time travel thing then "safety not guaranteed" is a brilliant one.
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Pretty good stuff :) watched on sunday
but still dunno that he was really a timetraveller or he just kill himself and her at the end with that stuff he built

with another sci-fi Seeking For a Friend For the End of The World...pretty lovely movie :)

my next stop is Cloud Atlas :BRMM:
 
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Just wathced Looper and The Hobbit during Christmas days.

Looper was much better than expected: 8/10

The Hobbit was fantastic. Peter Jackson simply knows how to deal with this kind of fantasy stuff 9/10
 
Went to the pics to see The Hobbit. Was enjoyable, I'd give it a 8.5 out of 10, not usually a .5 person, but can't give it a 9 and doesn't warrant a lower 8.

Thought it was visually stunning as usual, but just seemed to drag out a bit, kinda reminded me of the first LOTR, although that was all new, this was another likewise film.

I actually didn't have a clue that this is part of a trilogy. I was 3 hours or so into the movie and looked at my watch when I saw them looking at the mountain and thought "Fek me, this is going to be a big rush job, the mountain is feckin miles away!", then up popped the credits, WTF!


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