Spanish La Liga Thread

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I think Sociedad might struggle to balance Europe and league games with their squad, they're still an exciting team but I wonder how much losing Montanier will affect them.

Valencia still have some quality in their squad without Soldado and Sevilla might surprise a few if they can improve their away form, they still have Rakitic who I thought was their best player last season.
 
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wtf? guys you must see the penalty call the ref gave for real madrid against elche at 90+4th minute. it is simply incredible. what a shame.
 
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Some of the decisions Madrid and Barca get in their favour are just downright ridiculous.

I'm still trying to work out why Cala's header was disallowed at the Nou Camp.
 
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Aboutreika18 said:
Some of the decisions Madrid and Barca get in their favour are just downright ridiculous.

I'm still trying to work out why Cala's header was disallowed at the Nou Camp.
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Had to answer to this, sorry. Cala jumped upon Alves, so at least there was something remotely debatable, not like today. Most times its not awarded as a foul, and was surely a bad decision from the referee and should have been a gosl. But dont forget that the same referee didnt send off TWO sevilla players in the first half when barcelona was winning, and were blatantly clear situations, so if anything the referee was bad for both teams, I dont see where do you see referee favours. Maybe you only count half of the story.

On the other side, the referees abou Madrid this season have been really scandalous.
 
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drekkard said:
On the other side, the referees abou Madrid this season have been really scandalous.
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Barca have got away with some shady things this season already also in the league, it's not as if madrid are just the bad ones.
 
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aitken said:
Barca have got away with some shady things this season already also in the league, it's not as if madrid are just the bad ones.
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Nope, this is false. The referee on e Sevilla match had blatant errors against Barcelona as well, could you please put exactly which have been the other shady things?

Big teams in all leagues may have more dodgy decisions from the referees, but what's happening with Madrid these first 5-6 matches and specially today is beyond acceptable.
 
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drekkard said:
Nope, this is false. The referee on e Sevilla match had blatant errors against Barcelona as well, could you please put exactly which have been the other shady things?

Big teams in all leagues may have more dodgy decisions from the referees, but what's happening with Madrid these first 5-6 matches and specially today is beyond acceptable.
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So my eyes are deceiving me that barca don't get any special treatment by the refs in la liga? behave.
Thing is, i didn't refer to any game in particular but the sevilla game, he cost sevilla imo a win but i'm not going to go into discussion. There's no point discussing, your a barca fan, you'll say things go for madrid but deny for barca.
 
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I'm neutral here (no Barca nor Real supporter) so here's my point of view:

I've analysed a video footage and all I can say is : Elche's player actually pushed Pepe first THEN Pepe made this epic dive training the defender with him on the ground.

So if you consider that push a fault (since it came first), a penalty should be given.

Look closely at 0:53

YouTube - Cristiano Ronaldo scored WINNING GOAL [Elche 1-2 Real Madrid] 25/9/2013 HD
 
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aitken said:
So my eyes are deceiving me that barca don't get any special treatment by the refs in la liga? behave.
Thing is, i didn't refer to any game in particular but the sevilla game, he cost sevilla imo a win but i'm not going to go into discussion. There's no point discussing, your a barca fan, you'll say things go for madrid but deny for barca.
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What does it matter if I'm a barça fan or not? We're not kids, we can try to be objective, right? You talk about the Sevilla match. Okay, did you watch it actually? You didn't see 2 Sevilla players with a yellow already being forgiven by the referee and not sent off in the first half? Because a would say it's quite important.

So, then the referee disallows a goal to Sevilla and according to you it costed 2 points to Sevilla? A team that should have played with 9 men for 50 minutes? Really? Hilarious way of judging then.

Today the referee conceded a foul that wasnt in the first goal of Cristiano, didn't send off Ramos, made the match last 3 minutes longer than the injury time and then created a penalty out of nowhere to top it all. If you can find a single match in which Barcelona has been that favoured in the last year I give you a gift, honestly.

Here and there big teams can have some dodgy decisions in their favor, Barcelona included of course, but what happens too often with Madrid since Florentino is there is out of the usual, really.


Ps: by the way, only a single penalty awarded to Messi in the last 4 seasons in La Liga (165 matches). Take some time to really think about this number and figure the reason why, because you will agree it's extremely odd.
 
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Anasie10 said:
I'm neutral here (no Barca nor Real supporter) so here's my point of view:

I've analysed a video footage and all I can say is : Elche's player actually pushed Pepe first THEN Pepe made this epic dive training the defender with him on the ground.

So if you consider that push a fault (since it came first), a penalty should be given.

Look closely at 0:53

YouTube - Cristiano Ronaldo scored WINNING GOAL [Elche 1-2 Real Madrid] 25/9/2013 HD
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The only thing that stands out for me is pepe grabbing th elche player arm diving and taking him to the floor. The push you say is quite soft and marcelo is doing the same (as all the rest of players in the area). To award a penalty in this play after having elonged the match 3 more minutes than the injury time can only be a deliberate thing. At least that's what even my madrid friends thought when we were watching the match.
 
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I haven't seen the matches. So i will not comment on the referees' decisions.
The thing is that in Belgium Real Madrid should't even exist anymore due to all their debts. They are more than 400 million euro in debt, yet they still can buy a player for 100 million euro and give a massive salary to another (CR7). And don't foget that since the Beckham law that is a net salary for the players but not for the club. Financial fair-play, my arse.

Give any Belgian club those finacial advantages and they win the CL for at least 3 year in a row.

Compared to all this referee mistakes are mere trivialities.

I'm biased because i don't like Real Madrid ? You bet !!!!
 
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Well said. Some clubs here in the Netherlands have ceased to exist because they had debts as low as €100.000.
 
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Anasie10 said:
Elche's player actually pushed Pepe first THEN Pepe made this epic dive training the defender with him on the ground.

So if you consider that push a fault (since it came first), a penalty should be given.
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As a Real Madrid fan I have to disagree with you. I still can't believe that it was a penalty call for that. I mean, I am happy that RM won, but that just shouldn't be given. I mean, yes there was pushing and yes it was in penalty box. But Pepe didn't have any chance to play the ball. And we see those kind of pushing inside the box in every corner/free kick situation and yet penalties are quite rare for that occasion.
 
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Is it really that much of a surprise that the Old Firm get all these dodgy decisions? We've seen it season after season for the last 5 years, Barca and Madrid both getting very soft decisions in their favour. It seems to balance itself out anyway (unless you are one of the other 18 teams in Spain) as they are as bad as each other for this sort of thing.
 
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Watching the Madrid derby ATM. What has football gone to in Spain? I hate these bloody match-ups, too much fouls, tensions and theatrics. For every damn play there is another damn foul or simulation, all around there isn't much football left in there nor there's fair-play.

On a related note I despise Diego Costa and that thug wanna be attitude of his; thank God he didn't end up in Liverpool this summer, the league doesn't need players like him and God knows Liverpool don't need another cunt either.
 
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this is the worst game for Madrid in decades, there's many players in Real Madrid with filthy attitude : Ramos, Pepe, Arbeloa.
all they do is hitting the opponent and fall and dive, it's the biggest shame to see Ramos as a Captain for a team like Madrid.

I liked Morata today, the way he fight for the ball, his concentration and most important, he's a real MAN, unlike that bi*ch Benzema ...

Bale and even Pele and Maradonna couldn't do anything in this kind of games where your teammates are repeating the same sterile gameplay, Madrid aren't creative in attack, the last creative Madrid was under Pellegrini (also Schuster) ..

Mourinho and Carlo have nothing in offensive mentality , this is the truth .. they only rely on their stars to do something ..

anyway, am not saying this because am upset or deceived, but it's the truth, La Liga is finished, it's in barcelona officially, La Liga is the league when you lose any point, it goes automatically to your rival.
 
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i support Atletico all the way, what a great build and composed team with amazing coach and real fans as well... hope they win La Liga... and Diego Costa will be soon worlds best striker imo. he has it all.
 
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Cuky said:
was he auditioning for Barcelona next season?
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Courtois injured two fingers and Bale sent his excuses today.
This said, time wasting that way was foolish by Courtois, caught up by the shitty atmosphere in that match.

It's a bit of a non event after all...
 
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didn't know that he injured his fingers. It looked to me like he was only struck with a ball.
 
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Yes, he injured his fingers. There was a huge panic here in Belgium, we can't miss him in the crucial game against your national team (considering Benteke is already injured), but Courtois himself made a tweet saying that he will be able to play next match with taped fingers, that Bale excused himself and that he made a mistake and was to blame himself for what happened. He said that Bale should not have excused and that he had every right to go for that Bale since he lost it himself.
 
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Cuky said:
was he auditioning for Barcelona next season?
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Sorry but this is a farse. Tell me the last time a Barcelona player dived to get something. On the other side, I've seen this very season many Madrid players getting dives and Ronaldo is falling very easy (as always).

Some people put the tag to the team because of incidents by Busquets some seasons ago, and seem to relate to that as the only excuse to justify his own players.

It's as if I said Real Madrid was still the team of the regime... oh, wait. :COAT:

PS: In my oppinion, Courtois had one of the worse matches this season. Had problems blocking two balls and did that last minute stupidity. The saves he did were quite good but the shots were straight to his body mostly. This shows how good this goalkeeper has turned, when a match like this is not one of his best performances. He's still growing, and those twitters are the best sign for me, Gerd.
 
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Courtois is very critical of himself. Just like De Bruyne who is now being slaughtered by Mourinho.
I know this is off-topic, but what a dreadfull person Mourinho is. In july and august Bayer Leverkusen, Schalke 04 and Borussia Dortmund wanted De Bruyne (the first two on loan, Dortmund wanted to buy him). Mourinho convinced De Bruyne that he would be a very important player for Chelsea and that he would play regularly.
He started in the first match against Hull and was Man of the Match for Sky and for some papers.
Next match he played was against Man Utd. He didn't play his best match then (but who did ?) and that was it. Since then he is been on the bench and could start against Swindon. Mourinho slaughtered him publicly after that match: 'Kevin De Bruyne' might be good enough for Werder Bremen, but he certainly isn't good enough for Chelsea". Why didn't he let him go to those German clubs then ?

I'm very much biased because De Bruyne is by far my favourite player (i saw him play as a child and have followed him since then). But there are enough indications that he is something special:

in the WC qualification campaign he is the third most influential(goals and assits) player of the world onmy preceded by Zlatan and Dzeko. Only both Zlatan and Dzeko played all the matches, whereas De Bruyne didn't play in the first two matches (if you take into account the number of minutes played he is the most influential player and this in a team where he is surrounded by better players than both Zlatan and Dzeko).

I also realise that Belgia players are overhyped, but here in Belgium De Bruyne is seen as by far our best player, better than both Kompany and Hazard for example (i knopw Hazard's father and he told me that he considers De Bruyne our best player).

If you have a player like that, you let him play. You certainly don't let him train with the U21's while your team is going to Bucarest for the CL.

Juan Mata is a similar story, what a mjor asshole this man is...
 
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Blame the player for choosing Chelsea . Everyone should do their research before joining a club like Chelsea. They're not known to give young players a start. So, happy to sign a 6 yr contract n not so happy not to play. It's still early in the season he might get a few look at (playing). I look at players of Ba, Moses, Lukaku calibre and say WEAR IT!!!! Arsenal ,Mutd , Spurs all give young players playing time, Arsenal has a 18yrs old German starting in league, CL n cups. He's playing more then Mata :) n scored too!
 
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drekkard said:
Sorry but this is a farse. Tell me the last time a Barcelona player dived to get something. On the other side, I've seen this very season many Madrid players getting dives and Ronaldo is falling very easy (as always).

Some people put the tag to the team because of incidents by Busquets some seasons ago, and seem to relate to that as the only excuse to justify his own players.

It's as if I said Real Madrid was still the team of the regime... oh, wait. :COAT:
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Sorry, it was a bad joke from me. The point is, when I wrote that I didn't knew that he's got his fingers injured.

As for Barcelona, when your team is behind on both points and quality of the play itself it is easier to point out some "problems" at that rival team than to search for problems at your door step.

But yes, we had a "small talk" about RM players and their (especially Ronaldo's) play this season. They weren't playing that magnificent under Mourinho, but they were a team. This season so far, Ronaldo is playing for himself, Benzema is usually playing for opposing team, while Modrić is left in the middle unable to do anything due to his teammates not passing him the ball when he is in good position to maybe even shoot on goal (happened actually 3 times against Atletico in one same attack)
 
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Ancelotti's still searching for a balanced side. Maybe a Christmas Tree formation would be the best one to play both Ronaldo and Bale in but then you'd need to leave Isco out.

I don't see how he can fit those three in unless he drops Benzema and moves Ronaldo up front.
 
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A 4-5-1 makes sense having Ronnie n Bale floating about.
 
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