Real Madrid Thread

He's the main reason why Madrid still has options to win the title, he's been great. No one, though, is giving credit to Pellegrini, who has found a way to exploit to the maximum level his abbalities.

This year the title winner will surely be deserved, in my oppinion both teams are already winners!
 
Casillas has been rubbish this season so I wouldn't count him. The problem Real have is you surround Cristiano with grafters rather than superstars and you'll be better off which isn't likely for them.
 
Real without Ramos and Ronaldo (and maybe Higuain and Iker) is just an average team. Ronaldo (my man) makes the difference. :COOL:
 
GUTI TO GO
Guillem is Guti really going to Dubai? It seems to me like he could do so much better! Also, where do you think the futures of Higuain and Juan Mata lie? They are two players I really like and would love to see either one at Liverpool, although I think we wouldn't be able to get them unfortunately. James Saxton

GUILLEM SAYS: Right now, James, Guti is pretty much weighing up his options. He wants to enjoy his football. He seems to have the impression that if he can make it to the French League or maybe even the English League that would be better. Yes, he does have an offer from Dubai but he is undecided on what to do. As for Mata, I feel that both Barcelona and Real Madrid will go in for him. Meanwhile, I know Higuain has been offered to Manchester City and Chelsea clearing the way for Cristiano and Benzema to be Real's first-choice strikers. There is the slight feeling that Higuain plays for himself rather than the team. It will be interesting to see how that pans out because if someone offers £30m-£40m I'm sure Real will think about it. Liverpool will just have to look for other targets.
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So now Mourinho is on your side. Too bad that he and the direction of Real/players will have such a personality conflict.
 
I dunno. The "Galacticos" of the past were a little older and more established stars. Today's Real Madrid are younger so they'll be more receptive to Mourinho's ways. And if Mourinho can turn teams like Porto and Inter into greats, imagine what he can do with the likes of Kaka and Benzema.
Its one of those things what will either work very well or go horribly wrong. But if I had to put money on it, I'd say they'll be very successful.
 
RuneEdge said:
Two man, if you count Casillas' contribution.
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Higuain ?

Speaking of which will he be leaving this summer ? Valdano should just come out and say what he thinks like Diego (Maradona) demanded.

Pipita would be a good fit at so many clubs and will only get better.
 
ALBICELESTE2010 said:
Higuain?
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Yeah, him too. Those three carried the team. Higuain was important during the time when Ronaldo wasnt around.
If I were Perez (If I were him, I'd be an idiot but that's another story), I'd sell Kaka and Benzema and give the the cash to Jose to spend on who ever he wants. You already have Higuain and Van Der Vaart so those two above arent needed.
Personally I'd get Essien. His best years were under Mourinho, and he used to be damn good when he was at his best.
 
I like the fact he's gone to Madrid, will be a great test to see if he does have what it takes to manage United (if that were to ever happen). He's been at clubs were winning is all you need but with Real you need more substance and play good football, if he can achieve that with Real then its probably his best acheivement.
 
It'll depend on them suceeding in La Liga and the CL. And with Barca investing and their youngsters coming on it will be a very tough task.

I can see a ferocious clash of personalities which might be Mourinho's biggest test yet.

RuneEdge I constantly find it rather annoying that Marca Perez's mouthpiece surreptiously every now and then try to drag Higuain in the dirt.

This nonsense that he is a selfish player would not be aplied ot most sucessful strikers. And stems from that lack of pass to Ronaldo in the CL 2nd leg against Lyon.

I have seen said Cristiano and Kaka ignor colleagues in far better positions and shoot wastefully and not be criticized.

Players like Alonso ,Granero, Marcelo and der Vaart are far more team players than the two above as Higuain has been.

To sell him would be another mistake that Real and more specifically Perez have not learned from ie selling Sneijder for instance.

I could see Higuain going to Internazionale at this rate as that club has always been traditionally a very good club for Argentine players to go to ie Maschio, Passarella etc etc.
 
Training MAdrid is a very different challenge. People in the street doesn't want him that much. He will hardly improve what Pellegrini did in his first season and if he makes MAdrid play like Inter, even if they win, it will be a big problem. Capello was sacked of that club after winning a league in a very similar style of what Mourinho ddoes in his teams.

Only time will tell.
 
drekkard said:
Training MAdrid is a very different challenge. People in the street doesn't want him that much. He will hardly improve what Pellegrini did in his first season and if he makes MAdrid play like Inter, even if they win, it will be a big problem. Capello was sacked of that club after winning a league in a very similar style of what Mourinho ddoes in his teams.
Only time will tell.
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1. I think isn't too difficult beat Alcorcon or Lyon.

2. Sacking Capello was a tremendous mistake. Capello is a winner, no matter what is his style, he built an winning side after 2 or 3 years without the title.

People are judging Mourinho only based on 2 or 3 games. It seems an all career resumes in Camp Nou match.

In his 2 season at Dragão, Porto's Mourinho scored 136 goals in the EPL. In 2002/2002 Porto were the best attack of Portuguese League.
In his 2 season at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's Mourinho scored 144 goals in the EPL. In 2005/2006 Chelsea were the best attack of EPL.
In his 2 season at Giuseppe Meazza, Inter's Mourinho scored 145 goals in Serie A. Both seasons Inter were the best attack of the league.

So, do you think Mou is defensive?
 
Goals aren't the issue, his Cattenaccio style is the issue for me. He may score loads, but what about the remainder of the game? He just defends with every1 and builds a solid pressure wall to catch the opposition attacking and then use his fast players to run towards the goal or his technical players to launch long balls to his poacher striker (Derlei, Drogba, Milito).
Mourinho does score loads, im not saying he doesn't, the problem for me is that he does games of 3-0 with 30% of possession.
 
Football isn't Figure Skating. Look, Arsenal play beauty, sexy, classy football but, like italians say, 0 tituli. Inter plays an effective, intellegente and solid football, result - 3 tituli.

Mourinho won 17 titles in 8 years! Surely he will win La Liga and more Champions League with Madrid and maybe Man Utd. No-one had won the 3 major leagues, Mourinho will be the first to do the Grand Slam.
 
Don't be so confident. Training Madrid is not the same. I told you and I tell you again: even with great numbers, people won't like him if Madrid plays like Inter or Chelsea did under his management.

Madrid fans don't like Capello style, even if it grands them some titles. Madrid and Barcelona fans are maybe too used to titles, so they prefer the HOW to the WHAT. Mark my words, he won't top Pellegrini numbers in la liga. He won't do more than 90 points and he won't score more than 100 goals in a single season as Pellegrini did. I know in the Champions they will be harder to beat, but no way they can improve his recent performance in La Liga. Anyway, both Guardiola and Pellegrini did better numbers on this season than Mourinho ever in a league, so don't take for granted he's going to win titles that easily.

Plus, you underestimate the power of Madrid press. In Spain things are different. He will be a hero for some weeks, but when Marca and As want something, they will collide with him, and then... there will be blood!
 
Italian press is very powerful too and he managed to pass his message with, probably, the most hated club in Italy - AC Milan is the most mediatic one and Juve has more fans. I don't underestimate the power of those bullshit papers but Mou always knows how to takes advantage.

About La Liga numbers, I don't believe either Madrid or Barça will make 100 again, even thinking the difference between big 2 and others are bigger now that Villa has gone from Valencia. Mourinho's job is to control all Madrid universe, Florentino, Valdano and others should give him plenty powers to build the team the way he wants. Another big task is to make Madrid a football club rather than an enterprise. Sport results should be much more important than sell shirts, advertisements, etc. Finally, Mou should create a team spirit, create chemistry between players. They should realise the team is by far more important than individual success.

Anyway, in Mourinho we trust.

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Meh. Give me the mixture of style and substance Man Utd and Barcelona have anyday over Boringho's sides.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
Meh. Give me the mixture of style and substance Man Utd and Barcelona have anyday over Boringho's sides.
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Mourinho just makes the most of his players. Yes he puts a bit more emphasis on defence but if he has the right attacking players, you'll still get attacking football from him. And his Chelsea side proved this.
And besides, people can say what they want about his tactics. How many teams do you know that can beat Barca 3-1 at home like how Inter did? That was an amazing performance.
 
RuneEdge said:
Mourinho just makes the most of his players. Yes he puts a bit more emphasis on defence but if he has the right attacking players, you'll still get attacking football from him. And his Chelsea side proved this.
And besides, people can say what they want about his tactics. How many teams do you know that can beat Barca 3-1 at home like how Inter did? That was an amazing performance.
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This was one of the main reasons for the 3-1.
 
Well, that and a referee that conceded a clearly offside goal of Milito and didn't whistle a clear penalty to Alves, amongst other things... Though I think Inter had a better attittude during most of the game, they didn't deserve that result (barcelona had a bad night finalizing, that's all).

First rumours talk about Madrid looking for De Rossi bid. That would be a great signing for Madrid, but in my oppinion tells that Mourinho will continue his counter-attacking style of play. I thought they would prefer Silva, but seems that Mourinho is not very fond of creative players like him. I think they need Silva and they should get rid of Kaka.
 
Madrid only need 2 players: 1 left back (Evra, Lahm, f.e.) and a right winger (J.Navas, Gerrard, f.e) and maybe a 3rd CB so they don't have to use Ramos as a CB, where he is just dreadful.. For that just pick some1 with future but that is already showing class (David Luiz, f.e.).

--------------Casillas---------------
---Ramos----Pepe----Albiol---(?)-----
-----------Diarra---Xabi-------------
---(?)---------Kaká---------Ronaldo--
---------------Higuain---------------
 
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If they kid rid of Kaka - where will he go?

I think Mourinho will be fine for a season at Madrid, but the atmosphere there is simply cancerous for any longer term tenure. The press/president/attitude of fans is truly detestable.

Plus next season will be the same as this one in La Liga - all coming down to 2 matches because 18 of the teams are so far behind the top two. Mourinho will only get any true enjoyment out of challenging himself in the Champs League, imo.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
Meh. Give me the mixture of style and substance Man Utd and Barcelona have anyday over Boringho's sides.
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We play pretty much just like Mourinho's teams in Europe these days. Last time we played the "United" way was 06/07 and partially 07/08 (was more down to the sheer amount of talent we had)

I think he'll reshuffle the team.

-----------Casillas---------------
Ramos----Pepe-----???-----???----
---------Alonso---????-------
--Higuain-----Kaka---------??
------------Ronaldo-----------

I think thats how they'll play, I really can't see him using Kaka or Ronaldo outwide as he likes his wide men to put in a shift defensively.

Not saying their going to sign 5 new "Galactico's" but Im not sure how he'll fill those gaps with new buys or existing players.
 
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