Re: PES2010 News & Rumours thread
Dude you are talking about one of the most respected men in his trade in the world. If it wasn't for him and his team, football games today would not be what they are.
I read the interview (well what I could understand) and thought that he makes excellent points and sees things that we do not necesarilly see (usually the case with a genius). I do not always agree with what he says and does but respect his place in football gaming history and know he is not done yet.
For once try and post at least one thing positive about PES, you are starting to sound like a child and seemingly bitter that Konami implemented something over a long weekend that EA hoped was their trump card....tsk,tsk this from a fellow Barca supporter.
I bet if konami didn't have 360 movement you would be writing a thesis of their inadequacies as a result of it but now that it's in you are going for footplanting.
Pathetic! I for one know where I would like to plant my foot.
First of all, I wasn't the one talking about foot planting even if I do agree that PES needs some work done there.
If you read carefully my posts you will notice I always tend to explain my views on the game, and I talk a lot about the positives. I even tend to write long posts to explain things from a technical point (such as the post about how you define net animations with mesh-deform).
Just to let you know, I've stated many times my positives on the game. I put them here again specially for you:
- On close, the graphics are the best ones ever seen in a football game. I reserve my judgement about far views until I see the game on my tv.
- The new animations look definitely good even if overall the animation engine still has some obvious weaknesses (some starts/stops are too evident).
- Shooting physics are great (I don't like shooting to be scripted, I would prefer it in any kind of manualness AND mantain those great ball physics).
- Tactical cards seem to be a nice addition, though it's still to be seen the impact of them in the game.
- 360º is DEFINITELY an improvement (even if I think they decided to put it in watching EA was featuring it, and this is an OPPINION and I'm free to say it).
So, that said, I have a great respect for the work done with PES until PES 5. But from there, Seabass was lazy, Konami was lazy and didn't invest in a game that was selling millions. They even made it worse by employing a team of only 20 programmers for 2008! I'm free to think they tried to milk the cow and were surprised by EA (why they put 200 people to work in pes 2010 when they could have done that 2 years ago?).
To that, I must add that in my opinion, Seabass is not a good producer for next-gen games. The resources to develop games currently are different from the PS2 era. Things have changed a LOT, and while Seabass rests a legend for his work in that old-gen era, he seems to have lost something in next-gen and I don't see any change on him. Like the old mute-cinema actors that went down when sound arrived.
There's a great difference in quality between PES and the best sports titles right now overall. If they succeed in the online part of the game, they will recover some respect. But really, how bad a producer is when the star title DOESN'T WORK online for 2 years? It's him to blame as the producer and director.
Granted he's not as technically astute as you there infront of your High-end top of the range PC I'm sure.
I don't own a high-end PC nor I play on the PC anymore. I'm a ps3 owner. So you misfired there.
I'm not trying to seem "more astute" than seabass... We mere mortals are allowed to criticize things, isn't it? I'm for sure a silly twat next to him technically, but I assure you he's a silly twat in managerial skills and a game right now needs a LOT of these skills, you have 200 people working for you.
About football, it's clear Seabass and I doesn't share the same view about football. Not from the moment he said some weeks ago that the best player in the game would be Adriano because he's the most complete player (even more than messi and ronaldo in his oppinion). Not when I see a video of him playing the game and he is constantly running the wing to cross or cut back (I think he should have tried different things to let the users see variation, right?).
It's clear you like PES as it is and I respect it while I don't think the game is evolving as much, thus I exercise my right to say it.
challenge - it's not really rewarding, you have little advantage over defender whoever you're controlling. I don't feel I can cause real damage with Messi/Ronaldo/Ribery type of players and I haven't seen one player online who'd take advantage of their dribbling skill, apart from running on the wing to the corner flag haha. So after 500+ matches online in FIFA09 I can tell you this needs fixing.
