PES2010 discussion thread

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Seabass video was funny, but the more i watch all the videos posted the more i feel that there is nothing new in this game. Nice clean tidy arcade game that has no whatsoever fun in it.
 
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Adriano!

Yes, your read well, Adriano seems to be, according to him, the best footballer overall, and he wants to translate it to the game, he likes him very much.

So when they said it's a comeback to pes5 it was that? Having adriano again rocketing from practically anywhere? Oh , Jesus, it's so sad!

Adriano used to be a legend for me, the number of long range goals I scored with him.Good souvenirs
 
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Besides, Seabass seems a complete noob playing the game, he only passes to the wing and run, run run to cross it. He plays like sh*t and it doens't even surprise me that pes still has the most absurd flaw in the game since pes 3, that is the SB are NEVER in potision and ANY through ball to a quick winger means the winger runs and cut back.

Lol someones on full rant mode :SHOCK: Seabass resorts to the wingplay cause the game moves so damn fast its hard to see gaps in the center, however if a suckier team was chosen the players would move at slower, and so would the pace.
 
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Back at home:)

Have to sleep now, just one thing bout Seabass.
You could see he did not want to win, it was intentional that he always passed the ball back there I think.

I have a PES *2009* tshirt with his signature, in English and Japanase;)
But why they still give away PES 09 stuff!?
 
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Am I missing something? That seabass video really isnt all that. Looks like same old Pes to me.
 
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thanks for that one, they really slowed it down, animations while turning with ball are slowed down and not arcadish as it was before, also less moving on rails, it looks like football finally

now I know I'm buying it day 1

PS. That video with Seabass getting shafted at his own game was also funny :PIRATE:

Sorry, I just don't see the big deal here. I have absolutely scrutinized these PES 2010 vids and they look like graphically improved versions of last year's iteration. Compared to the FIFA 10 gameplay vids, I'm afraid PES isn't going to have a chance again this year. FIFA is shaping up to be the revelation that PES 2010 should have been.
 
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Sorry, I just don't see the big deal here. I have absolutely scrutinized these PES 2010 vids and they look like graphically improved versions of last year's iteration. Compared to the FIFA 10 gameplay vids, I'm afraid PES isn't going to have a chance again this year. FIFA is shaping up to be the revelation that PES 2010 should have been.

You're probably right, I skipped 2008 and 2009 versions so I'm a bit PES hungry this time, looks like fixed PES 2009 to me, that's enough to have a blast in online.

As for FIFA, you lot make FIFA look like it's godlike which it is not, it has its flaws, stupid patterns (Seabass pointed it out in interview too), shooting from range doesn't exist unless you're Rooney or Ronaldo, dribbling (in 09) is dumb, flawed, unresponsive and dull because the only way to get past defender is to make some stupid right stick trick move or go around him (oh yea, so realistic), there is no real freedom on the pitch, ball stealing is arcadish as fuck (1 button press does it all, doesn't matter if the ball is on the side, or you're shielding it), every game is the same, I can't say I see different goals everytime I play.

It's better in terms of pure gameplay (I played FIFA09 whole year, PES2009? 2 weeks) but it's not second coming of Christ as some of you see it. Both are arcade, only 'insert coin' text is missing.
 
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I just don't see PES as competitive at the moment. Since PES 6 it's been FIFA all the way. What really worries me is I prefer playing PES 6 than PES 09. I think PES 10 may be an improvement over PES 6, but, even if it is, so what?

FIFA 10 looks on another planet. I'll play the demos, and if it's a big improvement I will change my pre-order, but I don't see it happening this year.

There is just something missing. Neither game has really great gameplay footage so far, but the FIFA ones are often hampered by terrible players - the Seabass video is... much more enlightening.

Riddle me this, are Konami going to live up to what they were going to do last year and take FIFA on on September the 10th? I doubt it.
 
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From Gari on WENB:

Hey lads.

With regards to what people are saying about the animations and by the sound of it, some sound worried. Its been confirmed by Jon Murphy that there will definitely, 100% be new animations added before the game is released on October 22nd. The animations that you see from the Gamescom code, are not all the animations and there are still going to be ones added.

Guys, believe me they are some fantastic new animations that have been put in already and with this news about new ones going into the game aswell, it only means one thing, good news.
 
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Nothing about the way Messi moves in those videos looks mo-capped to me. Maybe they have yet to fully implement that into the game? Or maybe they just did a really s**t job at adding something which the fans have been asking for for years? I don't know...

The game looks interesting though even with rubbish animations. Looks like something I'd have to actually feel before I make a judgement.
 
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Sorry, I just don't see the big deal here. I have absolutely scrutinized these PES 2010 vids and they look like graphically improved versions of last year's iteration. Compared to the FIFA 10 gameplay vids, I'm afraid PES isn't going to have a chance again this year. FIFA is shaping up to be the revelation that PES 2010 should have been.

graphically yes, gameplaywise? only time will tell cos fifa 09 wasn't really all that. Never once did i get satisfaction from a fifa 09 goal!
 
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From Gari on WENB:

Hey lads.

With regards to what people are saying about the animations and by the sound of it, some sound worried. Its been confirmed by Jon Murphy that there will definitely, 100% be new animations added before the game is released on October 22nd. The animations that you see from the Gamescom code, are not all the animations and there are still going to be ones added.

Guys, believe me they are some fantastic new animations that have been put in already and with this news about new ones going into the game aswell, it only means one thing, good news.

I want to share this optimism, I really do, but I am not buying it.

Why showcase the game to the world when it will look little like the final version? The gamescom vids are the game, a few bugs will be fixed but not a reworked running animation......no way.

I am surprised that it is being scrutinised so much, you can tell it's so much better than 09, graphically i think it is stunning so +1 to Konami, gameplay looks smooth but a tad buggy at the moment but it certainly seems to play a cracking game of footy.

Turning still seems a bit "stiff" but watch the way the FIFA players collect the ball and turn, it's not that different, its just that they have every other animation spot on that makes the difference.

Give the game a break, I have been surprised at how different it looks to those early gameplay vids and I think its worth praising what they have done right rather than constantly punching holes in the stuff that is still blatantly wrong (all games suffer the same)
 
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I'm sorry but there is something wrong with the way we see these videos.

I just watched the Seabass one a few times and I was very happy with what I saw the only minuses for me were the 90 and 180 degree side step and turns that looked meh as well as a few niggles here and there and the 360 degree movement is too subtle but overall I am very impressed and cannot wait for this game.

Also Seabass is such a nerd!! I love his little celebration when he scores. He seems a very genuine person. I just hope I don't see too many parries into the goals come October.

A few other positives for me was the speed of the game, the slide tackling and there is an instance that the ball deflects up into the air and I thought to myself smack it from there!! It was near the halfway line though but I would've tried it. But overall there is a nice PES'ness about it.

I would absolutely own these people that I have seen on these videos. I mean they hardly remove theie trigger fingers off the R1 button. Even Seabass uses too much wing play. I love holding the ball for long periods and probing for proper openings.


I will definitely be pre ordering this.

I am worried about the comments that I have read though sure it is not a perfect game and there is room for lots of improvement and polish. But please dear god I do not want a FIFA clone. It seems most moaners and haters want PES to be FIFA, which is by no means a bad game but it isn't what I want as a PES Fan
 
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I'm sorry but there is something wrong with the way we see these videos.

I just watched the Seabass one a few times and I was very happy with what I saw the only minuses for me were the 90 and 180 degree side step and turns that looked meh as well as a few niggles here and there and the 360 degree movement is too subtle but overall I am very impressed and cannot wait for this game.

Also Seabass is such a nerd!! I love his little celebration when he scores. He seems a very genuine person. I just hope I don't see too many parries into the goals come October.

A few other positives for me was the speed of the game, the slide tackling and there is an instance that the ball deflects up into the air and I thought to myself smack it from there!! It was near the halfway line though but I would've tried it. But overall there is a nice PES'ness about it.

I would absolutely own these people that I have seen on these videos. I mean they hardly remove theie trigger fingers off the R1 button. Even Seabass uses too much wing play. I love holding the ball for long periods and probing for proper openings.


I will definitely be pre ordering this.

I am worried about the comments that I have read though sure it is not a perfect game and there is room for lots of improvement and polish. But please dear god I do not want a FIFA clone. It seems most moaners and haters want PES to be FIFA, which is by no means a bad game but it isn't what I want as a PES Fan

Great post Zee, I agree with all of it:))
 
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graphically yes, gameplaywise? only time will tell cos fifa 09 wasn't really all that. Never once did i get satisfaction from a fifa 09 goal!

very true i feelt that i knew when i was scooring:RANT: one on one with finest shot 99% was in, very scripted game, shoting in fifa09 was horrible & that's the most importend thing in football games, if u predict every goal where is the fun playing the game.

in the other hand i was trying to like pes09 but i whent bored with it so quick, as defenders where out of position all the time, plus the animation where worst then in ps2 pes games, online was broken, bottom line i bought to football games thinking i will play it all year, but i was wrong as non of them where good to keep me playing.

the only football game am loving it at the moment is pes09 ps2, my friend gived me his ps2 with the pes09, and surly he want get his consol back till octobet:BYE:
i was big fun of pes3 & 5, as soon as i tryed pes09 in ps2, all the old feelings i had for pes where back, even playing against cpu it was as fun as playing with a friend, its shame that konami can't do the same magic on this gen:ROLL:
 
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hi, good morning:)

The Seabass video you posted here is not the one I announced, in mine there is also an interview with Seabass onstage etc.
Uploading it later:)

PS also photos coming:D
 
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hi, good morning:)

The Seabass video you posted here is not the one I announced, in mine there is also an interview with Seabass onstage etc.
Uploading it later:)

PS also photos coming:D

you already played the demo right? I wanna ask you something :

1. how is defending? is it easier than 09? when defending in 09 many times my players moved to the wrong direction just a little bit even when I ordered them to move to other direction, this has been plagued PES since I don't know; is it still there?

2. is the AI still cheating?

3. how about the new features like teams play style and players' cards? have you been able to experiment with them?

4. is long passes momentum still the same as 09? I mean in 09 (and previous PES) you have to press buttons a little bit longer than simple passes, however I found it to be too long, have they change this?
 
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you already played the demo right? I wanna ask you something :

1. how is defending? is it easier than 09? when defending in 09 many times my players moved to the wrong direction just a little bit even when I ordered them to move to other direction, this has been plagued PES since I don't know; is it still there?

2. is the AI still cheating?

3. how about the new features like teams play style and players' cards? have you been able to experiment with them?

4. is long passes momentum still the same as 09? I mean in 09 (and previous PES) you have to press buttons a little bit longer than simple passes, however I found it to be too long, have they change this?
1. Yep, much easier. The defenders close the space much better, do kinda zone defending. One thing I noticed was when you passed the ball round in the defensive line, after 10 passes or so you always got a player very free on the offensive wing.

2. Not that I noticed. Auto-tackling is still there, but only on assisted, so all fine there;)

3. hm, I have one video where I put all sliders on 100, so that could help you to see, will upload it later;)

4. hm, dont know... Passed mostly short passes and high passes with circle for players that where in a longer distance:)
 
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only thing i hate so far is the keeper animations, they are horrible

lost count the amount of times the keeper lies down on his front to make a save....he should be diving on occasions one arm outstretched....it just looks so ugly and exactly the same as pes2009

gameplay overall looks decent and not a massive improvement as we all hoped for but good enough to play a decent solid game of football

just hope the keepers are improved massively when pes2010 releases
 
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only thing i hate so far is the keeper animations, they are horrible

lost count the amount of times the keeper lies down on his front to make a save....he should be diving on occasions one arm outstretched....it just looks so ugly and exactly the same as pes2009

gameplay overall looks decent and not a massive improvement as we all hoped for but good enough to play a decent solid game of football

just hope the keepers are improved massively when pes2010 releases
Some videos are played on difficulty level lower than top player, and that makes also the keeper worse. Mine are all on top player though.
 
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1. Yep, much easier. The defenders close the space much better, do kinda zone defending. One thing I noticed was when you passed the ball round in the defensive line, after 10 passes or so you always got a player very free on the offensive wing.

2. Not that I noticed. Auto-tackling is still there, but only on assisted, so all fine there;)

3. hm, I have one video where I put all sliders on 100, so that could help you to see, will upload it later;)

4. hm, dont know... Passed mostly short passes and high passes with circle for players that where in a longer distance:)
I hope u don't mind if I'm asking more :WORSHIP:

about no 2 :

auto tackling is still there? in what occasion? occurred often or not? how about auto clearance and auto pass? I hope they're gone :(

you mentioned assisted, made me remember something, I was disappointed that in 09 the manual mode was a bit different than the history

in PES =<08 even in manual when you pass the ball to other players on field the receiving player will automatically selected; now in PES09 it is not, we have to constantly switch players manually, kinda annoying and somehow unecessary.

how about in 10? please tell me the old style manual is back ?!?

and can you try doing long high through passes and long low passes next time? of course if you can still try the demo again :APPLAUD:
 
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. Auto-tackling is still there, but only on assisted, so all fine there;)

Please NO !!! This simply cant happen, even on assisted. What does assisted in cursor change have anything to do with auto-tackling ? This is silly and very infuriating.

Once again thanks for your time and information, it's much appreciated.
 
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I hope u don't mind if I'm asking more :WORSHIP:

about no 2 :

auto tackling is still there? in what occasion? occurred often or not? how about auto clearance and auto pass? I hope they're gone :(

you mentioned assisted, made me remember something, I was disappointed that in 09 the manual mode was a bit different than the history

in PES =<08 even in manual when you pass the ball to other players on field the receiving player will automatically selected; now in PES09 it is not, we have to constantly switch players manually, kinda annoying and somehow unecessary.

how about in 10? please tell me the old style manual is back ?!?

and can you try doing long high through passes and long low passes next time? of course if you can still try the demo again :APPLAUD:
Old style manual is called '1/2 assisted'.

I played one match and saw some auto-clearences, tackles, passes. Checked the menu and it was set to 'assisted'
 
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When you played in manual(assuming you did), was it(the auto-tackling, clearances, etc) still there?
 
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Old style manual is called '1/2 assisted'.

I played one match and saw some auto-clearences, tackles, passes. Checked the menu and it was set to 'assisted'

yeah, and how is the 1/2 assisted? still the same as 09 or like the old pes? (in player switching)

sorry, I mean unassisted

I used to play with unassisted so I would like to know it's current state.

another thing, in couple of last PES, whenever we use header to pass, team mates are mostly off positioned :RANT: very annoying

how is in 10?
 
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When you played in manual(assuming you did), was it(the auto-tackling, clearances, etc) still there?
no, was not there.


yeah, and how is the 1/2 assisted? still the same as 09 or like the old pes? (in player switching)

sorry, I mean unassisted

I used to play with unassisted so I would like to know it's current state.
hm, what do you mean exactly? I didn't notice a difference between e.g. PES 6 manual and PES 2009 1/2 assisted.
 
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