PES 2019 Demo Impressions Thread

[Ameppe]

How do you want superstar to be like ? what should be the differences with top player. Elaborate pls ?

In my opinion, judging from your videos is that the passing stats that does not seem really matter and that stupid backheel ouput.

Colo Colo players with low passing skills should never play like that. I tried playing Superstar with every other team and the best ones like Liverpool didn't manage to play like this, they played more realistically according to their stats. That's why i think the goal in that video it's unbalanced and unrealistic, it's like low rated teams receive a boost to make the game more "balanced" but that doesn't excuse these situations.

 

[Lobbedball]

is anyone able yet to play online?

 

[PES_Danielrh]

Online PS4Pro is very good, Konami needs to keep the pace of the game for full version it's spot on ....this one's for Adam Bhatti ..... just taking AC Milan for a spin online

 

[Bonano]

for those who make videos of skills and goals, you will suffer much this year, right gear is useless, and the strangest thing that konami anounced that they added 12 skills LOL, if you want to apply any skills the AI will take the ball, they don't take any reactioin of your feint, and it is not like human being reaction at all, even if you apply fake shot, they will go toward you as if you did nothing, you can't pass any defender, you should apply a huge bunch of ping pong passes to score, people are now amazed by graphics and animation, and when they will start playing master league you will see the complains, pes 2019 is pes 17 with new graphic but people always forget,

 

[remjohn]

my first verdict after two pes2019 nights:

the game is brilliant when you have the ball but god-awful when defending. you have less control over your defenders compared to pes2018 and that's a real deal breaker for me.

hopefully they try to balance it for the full game...

I have to disagree with this - I think defending has been improved. However, and it's a big thing, it is easier to take yourself out of the game. This is a good thing though. The players have a little more weight and inertia and if you're sprinting with a CB and miss the attacker will fly past. With the additional factor of no, or at least a reduced, catch up bug, it can have devastating effects.

This is countered, though, by the fact that defenders take generally better approaches and will more willingly attempt to intercept passes and block space. My tip would be to play a little more positionally in defence and sprint less, use the jockey button. I personally really dislike the defending system in FIFA but this is like a much better implementation of that, as if PES have looked at the mess that is and gone 'oh did you mean like this?' and made a much better job of it.

 

[Nik]

First Online game cuz 10 min matches and it was pretty smooth, 0 lag.

 

[fefepes]

I can understand the ignorance on here for teams like Colo Colo, clearly England fans who believed all the hype about England in the World Cup. And I am English myself...

These South American sides are bloody skilful, so its bollox to say that a first time pass by a CB of theirs should go wrong 90% of the time, absolute shite.

Typically no respect for teams people havent heard of before cos they arent shown in the UK on the "telly" since Premier Sports lost the Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana contracts, but my word, there was some lovely football played by those teams. People slating Colo Colo wouldnt have watched those tournaments anyway its obvious that.

In this country we think Harry fcuking Kane and his 38 penalties a season is skilful.

No we dont, we think he is one of the best strikers in world football and that he is.

Just because some do not rate colo-colo do not brand them casual football or bias fans please.

I won 4 nil with Shalke vs Barca online last night, you can get success out of any team if you utilise their strengths. For me it was adding a 3rd striker in De Santos and going direct

 

[DerleiPT]

another problem with AI .... Ai will do everything to avoid 1vs1 with your defender , doesnt matter Mane , Salah or Messi . Allways looking for pass instead of trying to dribble us :/

 

[PES_Danielrh]

First Online game cuz 10 min matches and it was pretty smooth, 0 lag.

Matched ya .... just now .... I love keeping clean sheets

loving how fast players get past people who can't defend .... I skinned Van Dijk for pace and my opponent hacked me down for a penalty ....cheers mate....picture taken as soon as the ref blew the full time whistle

 

[PES_Danielrh]

No we dont, we think he is one of the best strikers in world football and that he is.

Just because some do not rate colo-colo do not brand them casual football or bias fans please.

I won 4 nil with Shalke vs Barca online last night, you can get success out of any team if you utilise their strengths. For me it was adding a 3rd striker in De Santos and going direct

and that's the beauty of PES and real life any team can get a win against anybody, it how you use the team at your disposal

 

[fefepes]

and that's the beauty of PES and real life any team can get a win against anybody, it how you use the team at your disposal

for now yes

But Daniel you know this was case last year with beta too and then momentum bias was back in for the actual official release

Please feedback to them to keep it out but i will not hold my breath

This is a brief holiday where i rememeber why i am a PES fan, i will not buy game until a month of feedback from those that do buy that scripting has gone for good.

 

[Isslander]

Although I have played manually for years now (passing) there are times when I get impatient and try to rush the AI with quick attacks. Then I usually get bummed and remember that the best approach is a slow one, but by then the match is over because THE DEMO TIME IS TOO BLOODY SHORT, KONAMI

Had a couple of decent online matches last night though, and although I mostly played 2018 with basic shooting I think I will play more manual shooting this year against the AI. Had some very nice shots and goals on manual shooting in the online games.

 

[NIK778899]

I don't understand the point of the skill done at 0:04.

 

[cowden_harley]

is there a list of skills?

 

[klashman69]

Noticed this as well (kinda hard to miss when it flashes the tactics at the start of the game!). Played a few coach vs coach matches without the attack down the wings option on and seemed fine to me.

Also looks like the 'hug the touchline' advanced instruction is on for a few teams as well which goes hand in hand with the whole 'attack focus: wings' rather than middle etc.

Yes, This beats the usual AI IS BROKEN panic posts when people need to look at why things happen.

This is all Exhibition mode though. Who knows how will the teams play in Master League when script is enabled. I already saw something with Colo Colo attacking behaviour that doesn't feel good to me.

I mean, look at the goal they scored me, Superstar difficulty. That is totally unrealistic and something i wish they completely erased from the game.

Nope.

From what I've seen and Barca's default setting you need to play a high line with Barca and basically have your backline as close to the halfway line as possible, the issue here is your backline is backing off and your midfield aren't helping to get back, your giving Colo Colo so much space to easily carve through you.

When Colo Colo passed back at 0.02 Pique is in no mans land along with Busquets on the center circle line where they should either be defending and dropping back or you use the D-Pad to set the offside trap. You can prevent this goal even at 0.04 when the winger has the ball and you can stop the 5 vs 3 happening by manually selecting Pique to get his ass back in position! This is going to sound horrible but that's piss poor defending man, you need to always pay attention to your defensive shape and make sure your center backs aren't going walkabout. Colo Colo where very aggressive attacking with many players and you hand few players organised to deal with this. So your going to have to pressure them and force mistakes off them to beat them with ease which is the usual method of beating smaller teams is to force them into mistakes.

I've seen this many many ties over the years, I've seen instances like this where people instantly complain these days rather than self analyse what they did wrong. Look at the space Colo Colo had, that's not unrealistic, that is is something i love about PES, the CPU punishes you if you give them space like in real life, you need to shut them down and give them few options. Last year there where times where it was annoying and with the rails and catchup bug it was cheating but i don't think you have any excuses here man.

This is no disrespect to you at all as a great veteran poster here, i just saw this as a perfect example of things I've seen slipping here for years. People blaming the game for their own bad defending. This game isn't faultless at all but we need to stop blaming the game when we make a fault by ourselves.

 

[philla]

and that's the beauty of PES and real life any team can get a win against anybody, it how you use the team at your disposal

At least you don´t have to care about passing stats in your selection, as PA1-PA3 is so borderline hyperassisted that it doesn´t matter if you use Iniesta or or second devision player from Luxembourg.

 

[Marlon Anthony]

It's 10min matches online.

WTF

 

[Marlon Anthony]

First Online game cuz 10 min matches and it was pretty smooth, 0 lag.

Kudos to your opponent for sticking it out and quitting like a FIFA brat

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

i beg to differ that low teams play the same

they had no momentum but tried(!) to counter most of the time. i was barca and i just couldnt score any, they had a crappy corner goal

btw 74% PA for palmeiras, 87 for me. pretty okay for my taste

 

[Goldstone]

i beg to differ that low teams play the same

they had no momentum but tried(!) to counter most of the time. i was barca and i just couldnt score any, they had a crappy corner goal

btw 74% PA for palmeiras, 87 for me. pretty okay for my taste

Was this online?

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Fouls are definitly tuned up. Playing 20min matches via Time Expander and had 4-6 Fouls from the CPU in the match and some uncalled ones, too. Never had that in PES2018.

 

[Riscas]

I was a big fan of PES 1-6, then moved to FIFA, in the last 3 years both, because I'm tired of the same problems in the two games, mainly in fifa because I played most of the time (ex: long shots extremely overpowered, 45 and 90 minute goalfest, etc)

I tried this demo, 20 matches online and offline:
+ Shooting is much better, more variation, most of the shots go wide, not like last year game (maybe I'm just terrible shooting). However there are some bizarre bicycle kicks that goes to goal too easily
+ Game pace is great, the best ever, hope it remains the same
+ Defending air balls seems better to me
+ Player reaction and switching improved
+ Player ID, no need to know which player you control, just see the movement. Weak stats influence offline can be partially solved by our notion what the player you are controlling could do in real life.
+ speed and acceleration between players
+- PA1 is better, probably too assisted, but doesn't destroy my experience. Online in the few matches I played, I saw more missed passes, but it depends of the quality of your opponent of course
- Some interceptions an tackling are too robotic and without any sense, I think it's better but not enough. Auto shielding too weak, strong players back too goal should keep the ball easier and not being destroyed from the back so easily
- Stats influence, wrong foot shots overpowered, I miss the old pes when some of the first things to do with players you didn't knew, was checking is main foot.
? I'm terrible dribbling I don't know how to do it, so can't comment.
? AI - 5 min games against the AI ends before there's some action in the game, can't have a trustful opinion.

So probably will buy it when releases if they solved the stupid matchmakingoof online divisions (If I chose a 2nd division team in 2018 I will play for sure real Madrid) and coop (Ixchose Rio Ave and will play against a Myclub team with Ronaldo, Messi, Maradona...) I hope the squads will be updated and there are option files are out there soon after realese, and that they don't destroy the fake European competitions.

If all this remains the same, I will buy in November by half the price.

 

[PeterC10]

Played a couple of 10 minute offline matches on PC thanks to juce's sider tool and is a lot more enjoyable. Just beat Monaco 2-1 with Liverpool. Was on top for most of the game, made a silly mistake in defence and went behind. For the equaliser Salah was fouled but kept on playing, put in a cross and Mane went to head the ball but actually seemed to hit the top of his shoulder which took it past the goalkeeper and in off the post. The winner came when Trent saw a low shot deflected in. Have to say I enjoy the variety in shooting, seems a lot better than previous years. More blocks, deflections etc, sometimes helping, often not.

I am only playing on top player though, don't want to risk superstar ruining it.

Edit: Monaco not Atletico Madrid. ><

 

[Panthera1]

and that's the beauty of PES and real life any team can get a win against anybody, it how you use the team at your disposal

Thats my main problem with pes. I have no doubt colo-colo could beat anyone under the right circumstances but the problem is teams especially lower rated teams playing like 2009 Barcelona with very low pass error is a pain. Especially in ML when you play 2nd div teams. We won't know until the full game if this is still an issue in 19 but I can live with it. Overall like the demo, seems like a definite improvement over 18. Wish they had 3d grass in all views as it just looks class in replays

 

[gabe.paul.logan]

Was this online?

Offline 10 min game. Away game.

 

[LucasBR]

Fouls look very much in the game, watching spoony pizza play tens of matches, plenty of fouls in them and they are obviously very short games.

I've played about 10 matches last night and the higher number of fouls in one game was two, playing in highest level.

 

[Goldstone]

Offline 10 min game. Away game.

How did you manage a 10 minute offline game? Has the timer been unlocked on P.C?

I'm very jealous if so!! These 5 minute games are killing me.

 

[Flame]

Played a couple of 10 minute offline matches on PC thanks to juce's sider tool and is a lot more enjoyable. Just beat Atletico Madrid 2-1 with Liverpool. Was on top for most of the game, made a silly mistake in defence and went behind. For the equaliser Salah was fouled but kept on playing, put in a cross and Mane went to head the ball but actually seemed to hit the top of his shoulder which took it past the goalkeeper and in off the post. The winner came when Trent saw a low shot deflected in. Have to say I enjoy the variety in shooting, seems a lot better than previous years. More blocks, deflections etc, sometimes helping, often not.

I am only playing on top player though, don't want to risk superstar ruining it.

how do you play against atletico madrid in this demo

 

[Sovereign Hope]

Because most teams have be set tactically to attack down the wings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most teams have really poor setups as usual from Konami.
I'm excited about setting these teams up properly when the full game hits!!!!

The attack/def level for cpu doesnt change whether they are on attacking or defending (maybe konami listen to matt about the caught in two mind thing).

But the attck/def thing is random even on the same team. Let say i play against barca, sometimes they start with blue, sometimes neutral and sometime red. When its red they close you down hard. Below that they wont.

 

[PeterC10]

how do you play against atletico madrid in this demo

Good point, Monaco my bad! ><