Agreed. If my players were on bad form and I also didn't play well and fitness / energy levels came into it I would be fine with losing. Even losing the odd game here and there when my Team is in tip top shape.
gerd, my issue was frustration with the game, not Adam's or Asim's "rejection" (if you mean that on a personal level). Adam doesn't reject me, he considers me a friend. He's asked me to help out throughout the years, and I happily obliged. But I'm frustrated after the many years of bugs not ironed out, good elements gone missing, new bugs creeping in, plus their new direction going after that arcade crowd, etc, while ignoring their older crowd that carried them through that PS360 era, in addition to being there from the start.
Yes, I kinda felt betrayed there. Probably a good number feel that way after sticking with them for so long, because the game always had the core done right, the fundamentals, even though graphics and presentation were't always the best. Also because after my past efforts to try make the game better were ignored, not because Adam wants to ignore, but because it was seen as my personal suggestions and opinions, when they clearly weren't and were backed up by the community (stuff like the feedback I collated from evo-web back then etc). I believe the devs in Japan wanted proof. They wanted to see numbers, maybe that's why they use surveys as proof of what the customers want. And that is also why Adam responded with something like we're just a drop in the ocean (paraphrased). The devs see the masses (survey) want faces and boots and whatever, and they think that's it. That frustrates me even more.
I always thought if they could pick a few people from each PES community to represent their communities, give ideas and test their games. But it looks like in this day and age, it's the youtube community that counts. Social media with kids having massive amounts of followers. Those are the ones they're after. Can't blame them when they're solely after the money. I just wish they weren't so one dimensional and also included us in that mix. Go after them all you want, but also keep something in there that satisfies your older gen. Keep the stats intact like they used to before. Give us more options and tools to shape the game how we want offline. I know we'll still complain because we have to do their work, but we'd rather have the tools than not, and possibly complain less
Asim, on the other hand, is someone who I'll have a very hard time respecting after labeling a big and respectful PES community, in fact a pioneer in this community, as retards.
I hope this answers your post.
(I'm playing PES 2018 btw and enjoying my rubbish ML campaign as Reading in 17th placeAnd yes, I finally went from just having 1 point from many games to 4 points!)
That's it close the thread and the site
thats not fair Super Leeds. I love the game I just wish that the issues were fixed.
Yes you're absolutely right.
yeah the goal scrambles are so realistic.
The magic is still there Super,I mean my game Vs Udinese, midfield battle for 90 minute's,rainy pitch,won it on a shitty goal in the 80th minute.
Yupp,Ml transfers are very strange,I haven't really though of it before,cause I pretty much only care about my own transfers.
Scoring scrappers,GK making fantastic plays,the things going on in the opponents box is beautiful.
I never go past TP either,even if I had my first 5 seasons on 17 on that difficulty.
thanks Rocks, interesting. I remember I LOVED PES 2013 ML in Top Player.
You're brave son,it's going to be tough
thanks mate!You're brave son,it's going to be tough
I'm looking at starting a new one in Serie B,or keep my Torino one going,tough one that,in 11th place after 12 games.
Good luck mate
I didn't take it as a dig
