To each its own. To me PES 2016 is the best PES in a long time. I'll admit that I bought it at launch, but played fifa 16 instead, until about 3 months ago, when I started playing PES 2016, but I've been enjoying it a lot even with all its flaws.
PES 2017 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread
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To each its own. To me PES 2016 is the best PES in a long time. I'll admit that I bought it at launch, but played fifa 16 instead, until about 3 months ago, when I started playing PES 2016, but I've been enjoying it a lot even with all its flaws.
The videos look OK. Its kinda hard to judge without actually playing and "feeling it", demo will def help. Thankfully this year I kept my expectations at bay, even when I read "This is the best game ever!" and early reviewers said it was back to the golden days (which is what we usually hear around this time of the year.
It looks exactly what I thought it would be like. The movements seem OK, the physics seem good, keepers a bit better, hopefully more fouls (which I hope to see vs AI)and not a lot of ping pong. Improvements over 2016 . A bunch of old problems still remain and will remain in the DNA of PES who knows till when.
It'll keep me entertained. Is this the best soccer game from what I've seen? No. Does it look like an improvement over '16? How could it not.
Believe me guys, in one year the improvements will not be game-changing either.
It looks exactly what I thought it would be like. The movements seem OK, the physics seem good, keepers a bit better, hopefully more fouls (which I hope to see vs AI)and not a lot of ping pong. Improvements over 2016 . A bunch of old problems still remain and will remain in the DNA of PES who knows till when.
It'll keep me entertained. Is this the best soccer game from what I've seen? No. Does it look like an improvement over '16? How could it not.
Believe me guys, in one year the improvements will not be game-changing either.
Danny Henry
The King is dead.
- 16 September 2013
Im here asking myself when konami is really starting to make current gen football games. This day will ever come?
Im not comparing PES with fifa, but with all other games of many different categories ie, Nba 2k, Dark Souls, Batman, The Last of Us and etc.
Why they can make a game with some proper and authentic animations? Why?
Why they are so affraid of changes? PES 2014 was is the right way imo. Im not play games just for the animations but PES 5 have better (not more) animations than this.
New consoles are coming, Gtx 1070 its a speed demon for a low price, I cant be a fanboy no more. The game looks dated. The more I watch these videos, the more sad I became.
Im not comparing PES with fifa, but with all other games of many different categories ie, Nba 2k, Dark Souls, Batman, The Last of Us and etc.
Why they can make a game with some proper and authentic animations? Why?
Why they are so affraid of changes? PES 2014 was is the right way imo. Im not play games just for the animations but PES 5 have better (not more) animations than this.
New consoles are coming, Gtx 1070 its a speed demon for a low price, I cant be a fanboy no more. The game looks dated. The more I watch these videos, the more sad I became.
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zeemeister
foxy engine
That athletic vs barca video just filled me with so much more hope. Lots of fouls. A decent amount of AI pass error. I wish Torres hadn't scored in the damn bottom corner but I would aim for that was well.
Feel so much better now there was plenty of good in that video.
Feel so much better now there was plenty of good in that video.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Same here,but I have played 2 seasons on ML,the past 2-3 weeks and I enjoy it a great deal.
We're still a few guys playing and posting in the ML thread mate
Matt10
International
- 5 February 2004
Amen to that brother,nice to see in here again, haven't talked to you in a while,since slider fixing in FIFA 16
(Ettnollbajen)
Always good to have your sharp eyes on board
Of course, Ettno - great to see you too, bud. Sorry I didn't recognize the SN
I'll have my video analysis of course, after the initial dust settles a bit, but something out for the weekend for sure.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Ha ha,sounds great pal.Of course, Ettno - great to see you too, bud. Sorry I didn't recognize the SN
I'll have my video analysis of course, after the initial dust settles a bit, but something out for the weekend for sure.
You've got the perseverance we need both here and on OS,sounds good man,will be looking out for that,and your other stuff on the sliders settings ( which I still follow and obey)
Doing a good job man
Pretty much what I expected... PES 2016 without broken refs, replays and GKs (from what I've seen so far). If this justifies a 60$ purchase is up to you.
Overall, the game is still designed for 13 years old FUT pack buyers. Arcady as hell, lazer guided passing and shooting that encourages ping pong.
I can see why some people are disappointed due to hype. But at this point, if you believe Bhatti's PR empty statements, it's your own fault.
Overall, the game is still designed for 13 years old FUT pack buyers. Arcady as hell, lazer guided passing and shooting that encourages ping pong.
I can see why some people are disappointed due to hype. But at this point, if you believe Bhatti's PR empty statements, it's your own fault.
RAMAXWY
Premier League
- 16 October 2006
- Barcelona
Matt10
International
- 5 February 2004
I'm kind of with you in terms of what I expected. Watching archived RL matches now, side by side to PES 17 videos, and it just doesn't look right. A big thing that stands out is how PES doesn't seem to accomplish the tightness of the pitch, and defensive pressure. A very small, but big thing, is the visual of midfielders with their back to goal. You just don't see that often enough in PES. When the pressure is built there, it should be more difficult to get off a laser accurate pass, but PES does it so perfectly.
Just little things like that. I have to remember that the expectations could not have been a complete transformation in what we see IRL, but I expected it to be further away from PES16 at least.
Woodzy
League 1
2016 with minor improvements would be enough for me to be fair. Fix the broken things, along with option files and hopefully an improved Master League and I'll be happy for the year.
Matt10
International
- 5 February 2004
Yes, agreed. Satisfied for it to be PES, but is it football? Not the kind we see IRL, but that pursuit has been ongoing forever now.
I personally have to accept that reality, and just continue to promote what it should be.
Dazfeeder
Harvester of Sorrow
- 24 September 2003
- Manchester United
It looks ok.
RAMAXWY
Premier League
- 16 October 2006
- Barcelona
yup, i am to old for all this(watching and analyzing all videos)
my time is very valuable especially free time.
just need a game that gives me that feeling of playing my favorite sport.
pes does that better then any other football game.
presentation goes to the other giant but the gameplay, and that is what i need in the end has always been PES.
Unless some big miracle happens it doesn't seem like it will be different this year.
It is. How far did you think it will get. They have fixed what needed to be fixed. Passing, Crossing, better defending, better GK, real ball physics, battles are more natural, player are more physical, shooting is more varied, more fouls, better AI, adaptive AI, advanced instructions to adjust and eliminate scripting, amazing visually, more animations, etc. that's what I expected. The scores were pretty much low and realistic from all the players that played the game, so far so good. They won't be able to do much more than that. Players movement and animations do not click at all times, but that's not what I all care about.
bluestillidie00
Premier League
Wait until you actually play the game. No point judging of videos recorded at 720p/30fps.
goalgerd
File Maker
i skipped on pes16 so this looks good, with full manual passing and an edited gameplay option file it could finally be the time to say goodbye to pes6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcffzO6jzIU
1080p 60 fps
Much like PES 2015/2016, it probably is more enjoyable playing on manual with -1 but the core game is still the game as last year. If you enjoyed PES 2016, you will probably like this one... if you didn't, you will probably trade after 2 months.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
sigh*
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one of the biggest part of a footy game, shooting still looks really one dimensional. :/ 90% of the shots are strong, accurate...they are very well hit shot where stronger foot, body position, player skill dont matter.
PES needs shooting technique back badly until then scoring wont feel rewarding, no matter how good are the keepers and the defence
I remember back in the days where i rather shoot with Roberto Carlos/Adriano from distance than Ronaldinho/Kaka yet...if the latter two scored from distance those were special goals because their shooting technique. Nowdays there are no Kaka/Ronaldinho players...only 22 R. Carlos/Adriano on the pitch.
Shooting technique or sliders. Whatever since FIFA doesnt have s. technique either yet u can tweak shooting error at least.
its all the cons i have so far. but it may cause for me not to buy the game
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one of the biggest part of a footy game, shooting still looks really one dimensional. :/ 90% of the shots are strong, accurate...they are very well hit shot where stronger foot, body position, player skill dont matter.
PES needs shooting technique back badly until then scoring wont feel rewarding, no matter how good are the keepers and the defence
I remember back in the days where i rather shoot with Roberto Carlos/Adriano from distance than Ronaldinho/Kaka yet...if the latter two scored from distance those were special goals because their shooting technique. Nowdays there are no Kaka/Ronaldinho players...only 22 R. Carlos/Adriano on the pitch.
Shooting technique or sliders. Whatever since FIFA doesnt have s. technique either yet u can tweak shooting error at least.
its all the cons i have so far. but it may cause for me not to buy the game
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zeemeister
foxy engine
I just watched alot of vids and this is not true. I saw plenty go high and wide. Not sure why you see differently.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
I'm very impressed with the goalkeepers,active and seems hard to break down,also like the animations of the GKs,making both nice and "weird" saves.
And looking at highlights from different videos so does the rest of the players
And looking at highlights from different videos so does the rest of the players
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Me too and i saw a plenty go straight in the net or straight at the keeper. A few went high and wide.
Also i really wanted to see a 70 rated keeper in the goal just for one game.
The demo will tell the story in the end but for me everything is looking amazing besides shooting. I dont want another arcade shooter footy game.
For me Rocket League feels the most rewarding when it comes to scoring on a virtual pitch nowdays.
Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
These videos show two main issues: assisted passing and (to a lower extent) assisted shooting.
Those will not affect the game offline, but online it could be another arcade like game with people spamming overpowered passes and through balls.
Those will not affect the game offline, but online it could be another arcade like game with people spamming overpowered passes and through balls.
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
But while u can adjust the passing assistance this year (again as i heard) what can u do about shooting? Tweak Scoring attribute for EVERY player in the game?
You can "adjust" by turning everything manual, the same as the last 2 years. It's applying a band aid for a tumor.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Adam Bhatti
@Adam_Bhatti
@zeemeister1 @bigol83 When demo hits, pop it on superstar, play any team, and tell me how you find it. Had to fight hard to keep it tough!
9:09 p.m. · 04 Aug 16
https://twitter.com/Adam_Bhatti/status/761277798044475393
Adam said he plays it on professional because it's too hard for even him. That makes me happy.
@Adam_Bhatti
@zeemeister1 @bigol83 When demo hits, pop it on superstar, play any team, and tell me how you find it. Had to fight hard to keep it tough!
9:09 p.m. · 04 Aug 16
https://twitter.com/Adam_Bhatti/status/761277798044475393
Adam said he plays it on professional because it's too hard for even him. That makes me happy.
I haven't played pes since last year, I remember the passing percentage for both you and opponent is around 80%-90% all the time. It's probably been fixed by Konami.
Also I didn't mentioned that passing % is broken.
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