PES 2017 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread
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Veprikator
Conference
- 28 September 2016
They dont need to be different, they just have to be done the right way using brain. EA does this, Konami doesnt. FIFA on manual controls is a pretty good online gaming experience. Yes, there is nonstop pressure, but the rest is just fine. You can choose equal team strenght, manual is really hard to master and rewarding, connection is great. When you concede a goal, its not because your opponent has a lot stronger team or because your player didnt react to what you pressed because of bad connection and responsiveness.
On the other hand, look at Konami. You cant even force both players to be full manual (whats the point of manual passing with auto shooting? LOL). Sure, you can use manual shooting, but if your opponent doesnt, you have big disadvantage and vice versa. You cant even choose (talking about Divisions now, which is supposed to be the most played mode online) equal team strenght, so if you like to play with 3* team, you are literally fucked, because you will be paired against Real Madrid, Barcelona 90% of the time. That is frustrating, unfair and game breaking (in negative sense). Especially when the controls are a lot less responsive online than offline (we are in year 2016 ffs, Konami, why cant you finally do it right?). Somehow Konamis manual controls are easier to learn than EAs, so its not as rewarding.
PES 2017 is a great game, probably the best soccer game ever, but this applies to offline. 9,5/10. But online its other story, barely a 6/10, really disappointing. The stupidiest thing about it is that its just so easy to fix things I mentioned and make it a lot better experience.
goalgerd
File Maker
i have all these ready to go
PEU League PES 2017 Teams
BUNDESLIGA 15 TEAMS
1 PES United FREE TEAM Borussia Mönchengladbach
2 Lengerblitz GERMANY Eintracht Frankfurt
3 Fineseeberg GERMANY FC Augsburg
4 Almchendolf GERMANY FC Bayern München
5 Ehrenhofstadt GERMANY FC Ingolstadt 04
6 Dhroffsmitz GERMANY Hamburger SV
7 Creussenburg GERMANY Hertha Berlin
8 Biswerhausen GERMANY RB Leipzig
9 Kriedbach GERMANY SC Freiburg
10 Serignaluca PORTUGAL SV Darmstadt 98
11 Marguaparrena PORTUGAL SV Werder Bremen
12 Tedloghec ROMANIA TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
13 Celuvaris ROMANIA VfL Wolfsburg
14 Jorudberg FF SWEDEN 1. FC Köln
15 Maarsfort NORWAY 1. FSV Mainz 05
Other European Teams
1 Pabrowiestein AUSTRIA RB Salzburg
2 KVC Meirkugaurt BELGIUM Anderlecht
3 Alashergokh BULGARIA Ludogorets
4 F.K. Ljemorac CROATIA HJK Hajduk
5 Mythloxanthi CYPRUS Apoel
6 Verwestadt S.V. CZECH REP Sparta Prague
7 Hjorwesland BK DENMARK Copenhagen
8 A.C. Nitsaloskis GREECE Olympiacos
9 Herismakhgia GREECE Panathinaikos
10 Xakoulagos GREECE PAOK
11 Kirksburgh City IRELAND Dundalk FC
12 FC Meuchawyz POLAND Legia Warsaw
13 FC Cerchizmajiu ROMANIA Steaua Bucharesti
14 Gharnetova RUSSIA Zenit
15 Nakhqachev RUSSIA FK Rostov
16 Waryamosuk RUSSIA Spartak Moscow
17 PFC Ryagzhilograd SERBIA Red Star Belgrade
18 Quarpelather City SCOTLAND Celtic
19 Blookrows SCOTLAND Rangers
20 Saintragler SCOTLAND Aberdeen
21 A.S. Punoichongaux SWITZERLAND Young Boys Bern
22 Cantlesir Spor TURKEY Galatasaray
23 Mrabspor TURKEY Fenerbahce
24 Trunecan TURKEY Trabzonspor
25 Nelapoltsk UKRAINE Shakhtar
26 FC Nortovka UKRAINE FC Astana
PLA League CONCACAF LEAGUE
1 Cunturipa USA NY Red Bulls
2 Puntihuerva USA NYC FC
3 Targueral USA Toronto FC
4 Giberchampu USA D.C. United
5 Quertemoyo USA LA Galaxy
6 Harmanuci USA Seattle Sounders
7 Zarquagena USA FC Dallas
8 Cateravai USA Colorado Rapids
9 Aruzutanque MEXICO Xolos Tijuana
10 Buchaneva MEXICO Tigres
11 Heztorrium MEXICO Pachuca
12 Tyhuanzo MEXICO Pumas UNAM
13 Guarchomato MEXICO Toluca
14 Nuerrujiyo MEXICO Necaxa
15 Biraquachu MEXICO Puebla
16 Qharitunbo MEXICO Cruz_Azul
17 Bamgarrua COSTA RICA CS Herediano
18 Carizupello COSTA RICA Deportivo Saprissa
19 Marribohua COSTA RICA LD Alajuelense
20 Hientozario COSTA RICA CS Cartaginés
Other Teams (Latin America) COPA LIBERTADORES
1 Jobazavar BOLIVIA Bolivar
2 Benbacampo BOLIVIA The Strongest
3 Traperzo COLOMBIA Club Atlético Nacional SA
4 Floskrule COLOMBIA Club Independiente Santa Fe
5 Guidraeniale COLOMBIA Deportivo Independiente Medellín S.A.
6 Fovragizum ECUADOR CS Emelec
7 Espionorte ECUADOR Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito
8 Poquehillo ECUADOR CSD Independiente del Valle
9 Contaquipura MEXICO Club America
10 Chequebero MEXICO Guadalajara
11 Duzaghalia MEXICO Monterray
12 Wahuchamate PARAGUAY Club Cerro Porteño
13 Etamuaranies PARAGUAY Club Olimpia
14 Ayatohua PERU Club Sporting Cristal SAC
15 Huatyncan PERU CD Universidad César Vallejo
16 Quimrigna PERU FBC Melgar
17 Diazagreccio URUGUAY Club Atlético Cerro
18 Zagrepaqu URUGUAY Club Atlético Peñarol
19 Xavrenaguel URUGUAY Club Nacional de Football
20 Cosmopolizia VENEZUELA Deportivo La Guaira
21 Saqutamagel VENEZUELA Deportivo Táchira FC
22 Huerpojauza VENEZUELA Zamora Fútbol Club
PAS League J LEAGUE
1 Kalaquisong City JAPAN Albirex Niigata
2 Huangying Qingshun JAPAN Kashima Antlers
3 Bharshapur JAPAN Omiya Ardija
4 Cersipla Jakarta JAPAN Avispa Fukuoka
5 Sayramskal JAPAN Shonan Bellmare
6 Zangrhan JAPAN Yokohama F. Marinos
7 Altiplano Bunan JAPAN Kawasaki Frontale
8 Mouqabaram JAPAN Gamba Osaka
9 Qatorejan JAPAN Nagoya Grampus
10 Moratyadi JAPAN Júbilo Iwata
11 Yaraydeccah JAPAN Urawa Red Diamonds
12 Fontana City JAPAN Kashiwa Reysol
13 Cheonsang Teayang JAPAN Sanfrecce Hiroshima
14 Sujung Bada JAPAN Sagan Tosu
15 Krungthep United JAPAN F.C. Tokyo
16 Almorfida JAPAN Vegalta Sendai
17 Kharimsharjah JAPAN Ventforet Kofu
18 Qaxoqavoiy JAPAN Vissel Kobe
Other Asian Teams
19 Haiphong Athletic CHINA BEIJING GUOAN
20 WE United FREE TEAM IRAN Perspolis Teheran
cowden_harley
MOANING PRICK
Im in love with this game big style. Couple of nice moments here
The GK animation sells this goal.
This was my first ML goal with the default players and again love how organic it looks
All manual as always.
The GK animation sells this goal.
This was my first ML goal with the default players and again love how organic it looks
All manual as always.
Great, do you plan to release it?
goalgerd
File Maker
whenever its finished
I will wait for yours will it include tactics etc like I said if u need help let me know
goalgerd
File Maker
yes all tactics for all teams, my ps4 should arrive tomorrow and i already have all teams ready on my usb
Have time in the next days for helping you if you like...
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Please share it Klash whenever u can!
craney91
One Love
- 15 December 2006
- Liverpool FC
Quick tip to overcome scripting against the CPU. If you're in Master League, without doubt you will get these games. I've played this game long enough now and I find the CPU will do either one of three things. These games normally happen against teams around you in the league, for example 1st vs 2nd, or teams in form.
It will either...
1) Play out of its skin on the ball and off it, not true to the difficulty you are playing on. They will go on rampage, pulling your team all over the place and creating chances at will. Off the ball they will close you down and intercept almost every forward pass you make.
Or
2) Your shooting will be "off" a lot of shots you would usually score from will be unusually weak and retardedly off target. If they are on target they will be straight at the keeper.
Or
3) CPU goalkeeper will become unrealistically unbeatable.
I've just experienced the latter against Norwich in Master League. It was so obvious, I had over 20 shots on goal to their 1 shot all match. Chance after chance after chance. Power shots, precision shots, headers. You name it I tried it. Outside the box, inside the box, chances from corners, shots from 6 yards out. Ruddy made 15 saves in total, a lot of the shots were certified goals in an unscripted game. No way was I going to score even If I had 200 shots in the match. Norwich are 1st in the league, I'm 2nd, 3 games into the season.
Unfortunately you WILL get these games. There is no avoiding them. Because they are so blatantly scripted/rubberbanded the best thing to do is overwrite your save before each match you play and if you do get one of these games, leave ML and play that game again until you get a balanced game.
I just done that and 5 mins in to the rematch, the first shot at goal I scored. 2-0 up before halftime. What a load of bollocks. Won the same match 3-0.
It will either...
1) Play out of its skin on the ball and off it, not true to the difficulty you are playing on. They will go on rampage, pulling your team all over the place and creating chances at will. Off the ball they will close you down and intercept almost every forward pass you make.
Or
2) Your shooting will be "off" a lot of shots you would usually score from will be unusually weak and retardedly off target. If they are on target they will be straight at the keeper.
Or
3) CPU goalkeeper will become unrealistically unbeatable.
I've just experienced the latter against Norwich in Master League. It was so obvious, I had over 20 shots on goal to their 1 shot all match. Chance after chance after chance. Power shots, precision shots, headers. You name it I tried it. Outside the box, inside the box, chances from corners, shots from 6 yards out. Ruddy made 15 saves in total, a lot of the shots were certified goals in an unscripted game. No way was I going to score even If I had 200 shots in the match. Norwich are 1st in the league, I'm 2nd, 3 games into the season.
Unfortunately you WILL get these games. There is no avoiding them. Because they are so blatantly scripted/rubberbanded the best thing to do is overwrite your save before each match you play and if you do get one of these games, leave ML and play that game again until you get a balanced game.
I just done that and 5 mins in to the rematch, the first shot at goal I scored. 2-0 up before halftime. What a load of bollocks. Won the same match 3-0.
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curdstar
Premier League
- 19 September 2006
- PES4 Partick Thistle
So after using Basic Shooting both Wednesday and Thursday last week I moved back to using Advanced Shooting both Friday and Saturday.
I simply can't go back to basic. Manual is cool but rather it be an on-the-fly option for me. When I use Advanced and am now starting to feel I am getting much, much better at it I just feel like I am seeing some wonderful shot/goal variety. Also, and maybe it is because I am a glutton for punishment, the additional composure required just makes my matches in ML a bit more dramatic.
In my ML Castledine has started the new season in scintillating form. I had him learn Creative Playmaker the season before, but a mixture of his stats balance, his stats improving and his physique have turned him into a Greek Shunsuke Nakamura with that wonderful left foot of his. Probably the biggest character in my team when it comes to playing style and individuality.
I absolutely adore this game at the moment. It genuinely does feel like the best football game ever more often than not when I play it.
I just hope that in future, ML difficulty/competitiveness can be the default difficulty when considering Exhibition/Versus/Other Comps and maybe having ML even more challenging on top of that. I honestly believe this game plays an entirely different game of football in ML and it isn't a scripting thing. I would certainly try to present the ML intensity of play in a demo.
I simply can't go back to basic. Manual is cool but rather it be an on-the-fly option for me. When I use Advanced and am now starting to feel I am getting much, much better at it I just feel like I am seeing some wonderful shot/goal variety. Also, and maybe it is because I am a glutton for punishment, the additional composure required just makes my matches in ML a bit more dramatic.
In my ML Castledine has started the new season in scintillating form. I had him learn Creative Playmaker the season before, but a mixture of his stats balance, his stats improving and his physique have turned him into a Greek Shunsuke Nakamura with that wonderful left foot of his. Probably the biggest character in my team when it comes to playing style and individuality.
I absolutely adore this game at the moment. It genuinely does feel like the best football game ever more often than not when I play it.
I just hope that in future, ML difficulty/competitiveness can be the default difficulty when considering Exhibition/Versus/Other Comps and maybe having ML even more challenging on top of that. I honestly believe this game plays an entirely different game of football in ML and it isn't a scripting thing. I would certainly try to present the ML intensity of play in a demo.
goalgerd
File Maker
What do you mean? . .. . play it again until the score suits you? . .. .Do you not think that's as bad as the A.I cheating? .. .I take the result as it comes, otherwise you will end up justifying changing any result that doesn't go your way. . . . the whole thing is scripted anyway. Still enjoyable though.
craney91
One Love
- 15 December 2006
- Liverpool FC
Nope reset until you get a more balanced game. It will produce a truer result compared to the scripted/rubberbanded game whether you win, lose or draw.
Fair enough. .. but I found from past experience that you will get the opposite result.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Best post I have read in a long long time.
The team need to STOP fucking about with promoting and start fixing small things that detract from the experience
Online, as in significant as we see it here is the money spinner and imo the series future.
The more I play it the more I feel the series is doomed. Online is literally a laughing stock.
curdstar
Premier League
- 19 September 2006
- PES4 Partick Thistle
Actually going to start saving every penalty I get awarded, because I do think there is a method to trying to get them. Getting a defender in isolation seems to be a good launching point, with a well-timed skill move, or just a change of pace or change of/intended change of direction being key.
Loved this from last night. I had just gone 1-0 down in the season opener (my second season in Serie B after finishing 21st in my first! Loved every minute of it though) and Mattiello, my left-back (look at how far forward he is from just after kick-off - that is Offensive Full-Back combined with Hug the Touchline and Wing Rotation in action), gets Almici in isolation. Well timed dribble movements and attempted change of pace sees the Ascoli man clatter Mattiello. Clear pen. And given. Cool looking foul I thought, and once again I'll say penalty kicks in replays look pretty damn sweet, especially when it is hero Castledine taking care of business. The post-processing they use in replays does produce some moments where it just looks so real...
Honestly. This game, man...
Loved this from last night. I had just gone 1-0 down in the season opener (my second season in Serie B after finishing 21st in my first! Loved every minute of it though) and Mattiello, my left-back (look at how far forward he is from just after kick-off - that is Offensive Full-Back combined with Hug the Touchline and Wing Rotation in action), gets Almici in isolation. Well timed dribble movements and attempted change of pace sees the Ascoli man clatter Mattiello. Clear pen. And given. Cool looking foul I thought, and once again I'll say penalty kicks in replays look pretty damn sweet, especially when it is hero Castledine taking care of business. The post-processing they use in replays does produce some moments where it just looks so real...
Honestly. This game, man...
Sorry to hear that. Join a manualleague man. It won't guarantee games where pressure won't be used (I hate it too), but in terms of control settings, it'll be enforced at least. Team strength, it depends on which league. Some of the leagues just randomly assign you a team. Some other leagues allow you to build a team with a budget. I don't play random friendlies or division games with people I don't know. I'd say 50% of my league games are with people who are too aggressive (not enjoyable). 30% exciting open ended games. 20% brain picking tactical and careful deadlocks.
ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- fc barcelona
can anyone confirm that bayern munich have overpowered physical prowess in this game that is unmatched by any team in this game, every air ball ends up with a bayern player, either playing with real madrid or barcelona, barcelona are too underpowered physically in this game they underpowered them way too much in the physical department.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Bayern aren't in the game are they ? 
daniel wangge
Non-League
- 29 September 2016
Help my tutorial and tools convert pacth PES 2017 pc to ps3, sory my English bad
craney91
One Love
- 15 December 2006
- Liverpool FC
Aint felt this way about a football game since PES6. Its so fresh. Novelty still aint wore off. Without a doubt PES 2017 is up there with the great football games of yesteryear. A long time coming, but in the end well worth the wait.
Final Pass
League 1
- 23 August 2016
Not by default - the whole Bundesliga is in mine though as I copied over the PEU League with Cristiano's OF.Bayern aren't in the game are they ?
Final Pass
League 1
- 23 August 2016
You're 100% correct. But will Adam Bhatti and his new sidekick Asim accept this? No chance. "PES is back to its best!" every year according to those raging fanboys.
I love PES 2017, it's silk. But the series needs professionalism and balanced views, something Bhatti will never give them.
Bayern aren't in the game are they ?
No, they are not. It's the OF he is using. The maker/s made Bayern too strong is my guess.
Just spent about 2 hours importing Cristiano92's OF and got all the way down the list to the Portuguese league and 3 teams in for error messages saying coul'd not important any more logos.
This was on a clean save with no crashes and saving after each batch so I've no idea so why
Absolutely fucking me right off this is. I just want to play ML but don't want to without all the teams and kits ready.
This was on a clean save with no crashes and saving after each batch so I've no idea so why
Absolutely fucking me right off this is. I just want to play ML but don't want to without all the teams and kits ready.
craney91
One Love
- 15 December 2006
- Liverpool FC
Try not to get too frustrated mate when you've eventually done it, it will transform your game. Its a bit of a ball ache but well worth it in the end. If you run out of image space there are workarounds.