Kinda what I was saying a few pages back Fifa is like marmite,you either love it or hate it and as good as it gets some will never allow themselves to appreciate it..
Pes has and always will be less corporate and mainstream..more rogue,underground however mediocre it becomes,people love to be a bit more home brew and edit away..it's like the white label of video games.
I've played like many on here every konami footie game since the nes..I don't need educating on stats,inertia and momentum and all that other stuff that isn't that relevant in a game that treats the end user like a passenger to its gameplay mechanics...lets not fool ourselfs into to thinking having a awkward and rigid movement system with stats that boost tiny elements in certain players to make them stand out is revolutionary or a modern way of representing the facets of footie in 2014.