Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Not PESBS again.
Not PESBS again.
PES 2015 Discussion Thread (PS4/XB1)
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Tiazinha Maria
Banned
- 24 October 2013
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Why they are posting on PES NEWS website?
I don´t know what websites i can trust now...
I'm going to stop watching this PES NEWS Website and dedicated to wait and wait without reading nothing.
Why they are posting on PES NEWS website?
I don´t know what websites i can trust now...
I'm going to stop watching this PES NEWS Website and dedicated to wait and wait without reading nothing.
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Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
I also find the rumours of konamis own take on ultimate team mouth watering..the possibilities there of something cut from konamis own cloth is simply mind boggling and again would certainly be welcome as I've always felt it could be done better and would tie in nicely with a evolved master league.
Some real promise on the table this year,and I'm really hopeful the think tank at Konami has decided to completely smash the box up..simplify a bloated unnecessary control interface that is more contextual and encompasses more variation on ball flight both in grounded passes and the aerial pass,especIally crossing.
Without getting to ahead of myself,these are major areas where the evolution needs to happen and this can be done in the confines of the technology they already have in place.
A raw base is already there in pes14..these are the areas where the refinements need to happen.
I also find the rumours of konamis own take on ultimate team mouth watering..the possibilities there of something cut from konamis own cloth is simply mind boggling and again would certainly be welcome as I've always felt it could be done better and would tie in nicely with a evolved master league.
Some real promise on the table this year,and I'm really hopeful the think tank at Konami has decided to completely smash the box up..simplify a bloated unnecessary control interface that is more contextual and encompasses more variation on ball flight both in grounded passes and the aerial pass,especIally crossing.
Without getting to ahead of myself,these are major areas where the evolution needs to happen and this can be done in the confines of the technology they already have in place.
A raw base is already there in pes14..these are the areas where the refinements need to happen.
_anderson
Retired Fanboy
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Impossible to be avoided, it's the first site that popus up on google when you're from a portuguese speaking country and search for PES news. Konami should act upon them, but they never will.
Impossible to be avoided, it's the first site that popus up on google when you're from a portuguese speaking country and search for PES news. Konami should act upon them, but they never will.
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
That is true, but don't forget that those people in charge of getting these licenses probably have no contact with the PES development team. So it's not as if they have to chose: licensing or gameplay (or whatever people think has priority).
If they want licenses they have to pay big money. With the decline in sales it's probably not going to happen.
For KONAMI licensing is important because that's what is selling the game. KONAMI saw this in South-America where they have obtained licenses. Most people don't think like allot of people on this forum. most people are simple minded people: " o it has premier league lets buy it" (I know this because I work as a therapist). KONAMI as a company doesn't know how important marketing is or how important it is to have good relation with your fanbase/customers.
I know the storm has settled on this forum, but this is abslute proof that not only in the development team they don't know what they are doing it is in every layer of the company. Those in charge of the licensing should be more agressive to obtain those licenses and those in charge of the development should do a better job. they are paid for it.
That is true, but don't forget that those people in charge of getting these licenses probably have no contact with the PES development team. So it's not as if they have to chose: licensing or gameplay (or whatever people think has priority).
If they want licenses they have to pay big money. With the decline in sales it's probably not going to happen.
For KONAMI licensing is important because that's what is selling the game. KONAMI saw this in South-America where they have obtained licenses. Most people don't think like allot of people on this forum. most people are simple minded people: " o it has premier league lets buy it" (I know this because I work as a therapist). KONAMI as a company doesn't know how important marketing is or how important it is to have good relation with your fanbase/customers.
I know the storm has settled on this forum, but this is abslute proof that not only in the development team they don't know what they are doing it is in every layer of the company. Those in charge of the licensing should be more agressive to obtain those licenses and those in charge of the development should do a better job. they are paid for it.
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Banksy
Banned
- 25 June 2014
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Jamenzhino
Likewise I'm a stadia buff and like the cut and thrust of a smaller arena..the good ole days of pitch variation from the ps2,knocking it on random and that feeling of variety.Especially nice in the Italian league and spanish league and the feeling of all the smaller venues,over the lush green cauldrons.
Priceless stuff that adds a greater level of immersion and shouldn't be undervalued...tie this in with weather variables,scarves and all the wealth of touches that have been taken out including smaller crowd capacities.
Jamenzhino
Likewise I'm a stadia buff and like the cut and thrust of a smaller arena..the good ole days of pitch variation from the ps2,knocking it on random and that feeling of variety.Especially nice in the Italian league and spanish league and the feeling of all the smaller venues,over the lush green cauldrons.
Priceless stuff that adds a greater level of immersion and shouldn't be undervalued...tie this in with weather variables,scarves and all the wealth of touches that have been taken out including smaller crowd capacities.
Tiazinha Maria
Banned
- 24 October 2013
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Ok so sorry.
Stop reading PES NEWS Forever and for now on.
Tired to talk about PES.
Ok so sorry.
Stop reading PES NEWS Forever and for now on.
Tired to talk about PES.
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
that name would fit the next PES itereration of PES. instead of PES 15 they will call it PESBS
that name would fit the next PES itereration of PES. instead of PES 15 they will call it PESBS
Tiazinha Maria
Banned
- 24 October 2013
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Because of that websites we are sick and brainwashed every day.
that name would fit the next PES itereration of PES. instead of PES 15 they will call it PESBS
Because of that websites we are sick and brainwashed every day.
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
The article says that there will be a good surprise for brazilian fans, and he thinks that it could the Série B license. He's not stating This as something that will be officialy anounced, it's just His assumption.
More News!
http://pesnews.net/clima-din-mico-s...pes-2015.0249b97b25630a5072f255be27271e8c.htm
Please use the translator.
Brazillian Serie B coming to PES 2015. Confimed only on GamesCom. (maybe)
Bad and Strong Weather is coming...
The article says that there will be a good surprise for brazilian fans, and he thinks that it could the Série B license. He's not stating This as something that will be officialy anounced, it's just His assumption.
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
The "news" about weather having influence on ball physics is already known some days ago.
The "news" about weather having influence on ball physics is already known some days ago.
Tiazinha Maria
Banned
- 24 October 2013
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Better way is waiting for the demo, and see in our eyes, things as been done correctly.
Better way is waiting for the demo, and see in our eyes, things as been done correctly.
Simcut
BF3 Addict
DuduBR9
Champions League
- 25 July 2010
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
I don't know if it's just me, but in most footy games I found that playing in the rain is actually more enjoyable. I like it.
But as someone said, Konami need to get the ball physics in "normal" condictions right first.
I don't know if it's just me, but in most footy games I found that playing in the rain is actually more enjoyable. I like it.
But as someone said, Konami need to get the ball physics in "normal" condictions right first.
Tiazinha Maria
Banned
- 24 October 2013
andy18cruz
Sth, sth ... dark side
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Going a few posts back. The increase of stadia is a major point in the success of the series. Shipping a game with 20 something stadiums (2 or 3 even from pre-order dlc) is criminal in this day and age. Even with patches on pc, the number of stadia is still very low. And get the game boring after a short time.
If you can't get more stadiums licensed, at least gives us tones of fake stadiums, in all shapes and sizes. I have a feeling that the removal of the stadium editor wasn't due to licensing, since you couldn't replicate any official stadium, but rather them didn't have the time or space to put it in the disk. So maybe we will see a return in 2015.
Going a few posts back. The increase of stadia is a major point in the success of the series. Shipping a game with 20 something stadiums (2 or 3 even from pre-order dlc) is criminal in this day and age. Even with patches on pc, the number of stadia is still very low. And get the game boring after a short time.
If you can't get more stadiums licensed, at least gives us tones of fake stadiums, in all shapes and sizes. I have a feeling that the removal of the stadium editor wasn't due to licensing, since you couldn't replicate any official stadium, but rather them didn't have the time or space to put it in the disk. So maybe we will see a return in 2015.
simba
Banned
- 19 October 2013
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
I miss that PES Shop and random matches when you pick league or continent
I miss that PES Shop and random matches when you pick league or continent
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
My take on the matter:
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2699282&highlight=stadiums#post2699282
And on licensing in general:
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1958498&highlight=stadia#post1958498
(Explained better here: http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1446894&postcount=4593)
I know no-one at Konami would ever listen to these ideas (and many would disagree, even on these boards) but well...
Agree. Or, at least, let us share/import our own ones (which would be even better).
My take on the matter:
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2699282&highlight=stadiums#post2699282
And on licensing in general:
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1958498&highlight=stadia#post1958498
(Explained better here: http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1446894&postcount=4593)
I know no-one at Konami would ever listen to these ideas (and many would disagree, even on these boards) but well...
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ccshopland
Premier League
- 4 January 2011
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Spot on Banksy. There was something just so raw about some of the stadiums, pitch textures etc on old PES's. I understand that KONAMI has thought we need to move with the times, but the pitches/stadia now seem so generic and lifeless. And the variety was excellent in terms of portraying pitch conditions. I suppose the issue is, is that modern pitches for example are generally lawns, but a bit more variety in terms of wear and tear and conditions across the board would be welcomed.
Spot on Banksy. There was something just so raw about some of the stadiums, pitch textures etc on old PES's. I understand that KONAMI has thought we need to move with the times, but the pitches/stadia now seem so generic and lifeless. And the variety was excellent in terms of portraying pitch conditions. I suppose the issue is, is that modern pitches for example are generally lawns, but a bit more variety in terms of wear and tear and conditions across the board would be welcomed.
ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- fc barcelona
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
we need that back.
what PES succeeds over fifa in all the installments is the stadium variety and imitation, the old pes just got it so right, the pitch side details, the distance btw goal post and crowds, the stadium imitation is grt in pes, also the different pitch conditions...
we need that back.
chiefrocka4real
Champions League
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
Yep, u made a point!
I hope KONAMI never loses the licenses for EL and CL.
I love playing matches in those tournaments, specially after I´ve watched a CL match on TV.
When I switched to FIFA in 2012, where I played the manager mode, this was really missing and not even the mods could satisfy me there.
Yep, u made a point!
I hope KONAMI never loses the licenses for EL and CL.
I love playing matches in those tournaments, specially after I´ve watched a CL match on TV.
When I switched to FIFA in 2012, where I played the manager mode, this was really missing and not even the mods could satisfy me there.
zeus0r
Banned
- 11 September 2012
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
i miss matches with random players, too! (like in pes6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri1TL3I9-oc
I miss that PES Shop and random matches when you pick league or continent
i miss matches with random players, too! (like in pes6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri1TL3I9-oc
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Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
If they just wanted to reintroduce everything they removed during the years they would create a masterpiece
If they just wanted to reintroduce everything they removed during the years they would create a masterpiece
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
As an rFactor/rFactor2 player I certainly see the virtues of that model. Sadly I cannot see how it would work for a mainstream, multi-format football title. PES shipped without licences and minimal content would quickly dwindle to niche title status. This is exactly what rF/rf2 are.
ZeroTheHero
Banned
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
As I could't find a suggestions thread during my swift search I thought this was a good place as any to post it.
I've been thinking of this idea for a while and I've come to the conclusion that team styles and team tactics and formation is a too simple way to distinguish between how teams play in the long run. Especially in game modes such as ML and BAL where it's natural to play quite a few seasons.
My suggestion is that instead of having formation and strategies locked to teams, Konami should create individual and editable managers who have their own preffered styles and strategies that they bring to whichever club they are contracted to. Konami could then focus on creating a few high profile manager styles and leave the rest more or less generic, the community would probably remake and tweak everything in place in a short while anyway.
Managers would then get fired and hired over the course of time and teams would then switch styles and strategies as new managers take over. This is a very simple way to create a more dynamic and varied career. Clubs should have a preferred style at least, so that managers that prefer, for example, possession based football is more likely to get hired by clubs that prefer that type of football.
This in turn could help fix the crazy transfer system in this game. Players out of favor due to their main position no longer being used in the current formation would be more likely to want to move clubs while high profile players in high profile clubs that gets regular playtime in their fav position would be less likely to accept offers and so on.
As I could't find a suggestions thread during my swift search I thought this was a good place as any to post it.
I've been thinking of this idea for a while and I've come to the conclusion that team styles and team tactics and formation is a too simple way to distinguish between how teams play in the long run. Especially in game modes such as ML and BAL where it's natural to play quite a few seasons.
My suggestion is that instead of having formation and strategies locked to teams, Konami should create individual and editable managers who have their own preffered styles and strategies that they bring to whichever club they are contracted to. Konami could then focus on creating a few high profile manager styles and leave the rest more or less generic, the community would probably remake and tweak everything in place in a short while anyway.
Managers would then get fired and hired over the course of time and teams would then switch styles and strategies as new managers take over. This is a very simple way to create a more dynamic and varied career. Clubs should have a preferred style at least, so that managers that prefer, for example, possession based football is more likely to get hired by clubs that prefer that type of football.
This in turn could help fix the crazy transfer system in this game. Players out of favor due to their main position no longer being used in the current formation would be more likely to want to move clubs while high profile players in high profile clubs that gets regular playtime in their fav position would be less likely to accept offers and so on.
chiefrocka4real
Champions League
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
I agree!
Anything that adds more depth to the ML is welcomed.
I wanna have the option again to invest in better team doctors, physio therapists, scouts, co-coaches etc.
I don´t know why, but after reading the impressions of the podcast etc. I´m quite optimistic about the gameplay itself.
The modes and everything on the side is important too and me, who always loved playing ML and build up a team with the standars like Minandinho, Castolis etc. was quite disappointed with this years´ ML.
I´m curious what they have to offer this time.
I agree!
Anything that adds more depth to the ML is welcomed.
I wanna have the option again to invest in better team doctors, physio therapists, scouts, co-coaches etc.
I don´t know why, but after reading the impressions of the podcast etc. I´m quite optimistic about the gameplay itself.
The modes and everything on the side is important too and me, who always loved playing ML and build up a team with the standars like Minandinho, Castolis etc. was quite disappointed with this years´ ML.
I´m curious what they have to offer this time.
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
That's why I said it wouldn't work unfortunately.
I completely agree.
That's why I said it wouldn't work unfortunately.
ZeroTheHero
Banned
Re: PES 2015 Discussion Thread
There are far more factors to consider than that. I've player more or less every racing sim/game on the market and while rfactor is fairly decent there's still the issue that the game doesn't cater to arcade action gamers nor simulator fans. Like most other games, it's neither bird nor fish in that regard yet the latter part of the audience is screaming for a decent simulator, particularly the F1 community.
There's also the decline in interest into racing games to consider, and so on. So it's not just as simple as to say that if rfactor is a niche product due to lack of licenses, PES will suffer the same fate. That's just a way too simple cause/effect theory.
Gameplay and marketing rules all, so the game with the better gameplay will be most popular by the majority of the users regardless of licenses provided that editing and community patching is relatively convenient.
EDIT: Take a look at Project CARS (Community Assisted Racing Simulator), for example.
There are far more factors to consider than that. I've player more or less every racing sim/game on the market and while rfactor is fairly decent there's still the issue that the game doesn't cater to arcade action gamers nor simulator fans. Like most other games, it's neither bird nor fish in that regard yet the latter part of the audience is screaming for a decent simulator, particularly the F1 community.
There's also the decline in interest into racing games to consider, and so on. So it's not just as simple as to say that if rfactor is a niche product due to lack of licenses, PES will suffer the same fate. That's just a way too simple cause/effect theory.
Gameplay and marketing rules all, so the game with the better gameplay will be most popular by the majority of the users regardless of licenses provided that editing and community patching is relatively convenient.
EDIT: Take a look at Project CARS (Community Assisted Racing Simulator), for example.
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