PES 2015 Discussion thread. PC

[Luckz]

with the LB button it's done almost instantly, with the right stick it takes up to a second to complete. :|

Episode 210 of Konami stealing features from FIFA without understanding them: in PES, it only switches after you *let go* of the right stick (of course completely negating the point of right stick player switching, namely to be faster than with LB/L1).

the problem is that it's not the real vram cause the real gpu i have is intel gma4500 hd and it's in the recommended requirements to run pes 2015 smoothly but it's not detected

Uhhh, you can try different Windows compatibility modes for both settings.exe and the game. I read on the Steam forums that some help it detect the real GPU.

Without real change to drag PES kicking and screaming into the 21st century, Konami are "rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic", as the saying goes. In the end, futile.

On the PC, yes.

Hello guys,

concerning mods, do you think we would have serious problems with steam? I have added the sweetfx settings and considering adding commentary languages as well, but dont know whether I should be afraid of getting my accuont banned or what pff...

No, nothing of the sort would happen.
The chances of getting a virus from using random DLL files or EXE files off the internet and/or becoming part of a botnet is much higher than Steam caring about your game mods.
=> there is no problem with Steam & mods

With PES 2014 there were problems that the PES Edit team was too lazy to make their patch compatible with Steam PES out of the box (so workarounds had to be used to install it correctly), and of course there is always the danger that Steam patches your modded game (overwriting mod files) and then you need to re-mod it, or that the new version is not compatible with your mods anymore (and you need to wait for updated mods).

So leave vsync on or off?

As per earlier posts here, triple buffering on.
An earlier post also said it only worked with him after he turned on triple buffering in the Nvidia control panel and then rebooted his PC.

 

[profit90]

@klashman69

I've put V-Sync on, and, to be honest, maybe there is a small difference, but it might be in the realm of placebo. Maybe it's just me getting better.

Defending I find extremely frustrating at times and that's where input delay can regrettably be seen; but still it doesn't mean you can't defend, it's just really matter of being extremely cautious. And sadly a bit lucky.

As for the AI, I honestly don't mind it, I'm going through Ligue 2 opponents and every opponent is different in some way. I really like it.

What annoys me is how AI can simply try throwing the L1+Triangle ball from 40-50 meters and get a goals from that simply because defenders can be quite dumb at times. On the other hand it's extremely easy to do that to AI, personally I refrain from that and try to play in many various ways, and damn it's lots of fun.

It's no placebo. Vsync on always has the effect of increasing input lag, even if just slightly. The only guaranteed way to get no input lag is vsync off.

 

[profit90]

The dilemma with vsync off, which is the ultimate gaming experience (no input lag) is that it leads to screen tearing. However, there is a workaround for that. If you play in windowed mode with the Aero Windows Theme on, screen tearing somehow disappears. This is therefore the ideal situation. Vsync off + no screen tearing. And then you just use a third party program to get borderless windowed mode.

 

[Luckz]

why steam blocked pes 2015 in my country ?
any thoughts ?
is it permanent or temporary?
I downloaded demo and want to buy tomorrow :/

If you can transfer money online, I could help (and I'm sure many others too).

The dilemma with vsync off, which is the ultimate gaming experience (no input lag) is that it leads to screen tearing. However, there is a workaround for that. If you play in windowed mode with the Aero Windows Theme on, screen tearing somehow disappears. This is therefore the ideal situation. Vsync off + no screen tearing. And then you just use a third party program to get borderless windowed mode.

Aero uses double buffering
( http://superuser.com/questions/558007/how-does-windows-aero-prevent-screen-tearing )

 

[scatenato]

Thank you profit90 ! Finally my game is ready to be enjoyable.

About V-Sync added to gamepad changed to DirectInput, it totally changed my experience in terms of responsiveness.

It's not placebo at all, I just play a different game, no doubt.


A good way to test input lag is to change control player with right stick, it has to be almost instant.

EDIT : Windowed mode with your soft causes me a slight latency. Probably because of Aero. I keep fullscreen, my exp is waw *.* now I appreciate the game...

 

[karokgnet1412]

can anyone upload the manifest file please, thanks

 

[profit90]

Thank you profit90 ! Finally my game is ready to be enjoyable.

About V-Sync added to gamepad changed to DirectInput, it totally changed my experience in terms of responsiveness.

It's not placebo at all, I just play a different game, no doubt.


A good way to test input lag is to change control player with right stick, it has to be almost instant.

You are welcome. Now the only problem lies in getting rid of this damn letterboxing for those of us that don't use a 16:9 resolution.

 

[bobfifalas]

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[jaboy]

I'm having a difficult time getting to grips with basic passing.

Using 1-bar, I can float lovely lofted through-balls, and low through-balls have a lot, if no too much, pace.

But basic passing along the ground is all very insipid, with or without using L1. The ball leisurely makes it's way between players and more of than than not is easily intercepted.

How do you put pace into you passes?

 

[Dazzlà]

i aint see no difference with the input lag wit v-sync on or off, but disabling all the crows has definitely improved it.

 

[jammiedodger]

I'm not sure what to think about PES2015. On one hand the gameplay is quite solid and so far pretty enjoyable, but on the other hand the production values and depth of the all-round package are nowhere near acceptable in 2014.

At first glance the game does look and feel far too much like PES2014. It's still a bit clunky and 'on-rails' at times, but fortunately many of the issues that made me vehemently dislike last year's game have been overcome or at least improved in PES2015. Responsiveness, shooting, crossing - all improved. Individuality is much more noticeable which is what it's all about for me. On the pitch, the game is moving forward at least and that's all that matters, right?

I'm not sure.

The all-round package is so inconsistent, and, in some areas downright shoddy, that I have to pinch myself to ask if this is a game from 2014. Content keeps going missing for no reason (stadia?) and no entrance scenes which is completely daft. Then there's the commentary which needs nuking from orbit. It's embarrassing.

The graphics, while perfectly serviceable, are appalling by modern PC standards. Graphical options are non-existent....again. I have every faith the modders can make the PC version the best-looking one, but it shouldn't have to be this way.

PES needs an overhaul in so many areas but after all these years I'm not seeing any signs that it will ever happen. The Fox engine promised so much but is delivering so little in the hands of PES Productions. They seem content to plod along with the same core gameplay engine, changing things up each year, sometimes getting it right, often not.

Without real change to drag PES kicking and screaming into the 21st century, Konami are "rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic", as the saying goes. In the end, futile.

Totally agree with the above. Konami want a good kick up the arse for releasing this on the PC. Needs to be in a bargain basket selling at 5 quid for me to buy this year. Modders can do great thing with games as we've seen over the years but I think the game would still not be worth the time and effort.

 

[juhu00[2]]

Finally no Input Lag. Thanks guys. Forcing Vsync off finally solved everything. It is now a different game.

Can it be that through balls are way overpowered. Also even though i don't want to use them often cause i always want to play a varied game, it seems as if the game starts to make me play them more and more cause it seems as if it is the superior way to play pes 15.

 

[Heizi]

You are welcome. Now the only problem lies in getting rid of this damn letterboxing for those of us that don't use a 16:9 resolution.

I searched all the internet and didn't find a solution to the letterbox problem. Can modders do something about it?

 

[Joker777]

What do you mean by "change the GPU"? I know how to change the resolution in the settings.exe, but where to change GPU? Do you mean the resolution that can be changed in Windows control panel?

Do you have nvidia Cards? Go to the settings of the card and give your card a GPU with that resolution, and other for your normal monitor on your desktop. So simple and silly.

 

[Heizi]

Yeah, I have got Nvidia card (GTX 275). So you mean I have to set a widescreen resolution in the graphic card settings, the same resolution for the normal monitor and for the settings.exe?

 

[angus]

Do you have nvidia Cards? Go to the settings of the card and give your card a GPU with that resolution, and other for your normal monitor on your desktop. So simple and silly.

Was it simple and silly before you knew how to do it, or just afterwards?

 

[yair25]

Yair & pesedit arent the end of modding you know.

no it' not !!
but at this rate no one will stay to fix all Konami mistakes .

 

[profit90]

PC version this year is eerily similar to Ubisoft's release of WatchDogs, where the PC version was artificially dumbed down to not make the consoles look so bad. In that case however, a modder did a little tweak and all of a sudden WatchDogs on PC became 10x better than consoles.

It's similar in that I think Konami artificially dumbed it down to make the console version more attractive. Otherwise PS4 would get blown out of the water.

 

[dbfan]

Yes. I use an external program for that. It's called ShiftWindow.

And you're right. All games now should have an option for Borderless Windowed Mode without having to resort to a third-party program.

In setting of pes is option windowed mode, and you right, input lag is gone on windowed mode you think when i disable v sync in catalyst input lag is gone on fullscreen?

 

[jaboy]

I fixed my 'problem' with passing.

I dropped down from Top Player to Professional and there is a big difference. Passing just seems 'right', and the ball even bobbles (in Top Player is seems to just slide)

Also, the CPU retains possession with some nice buildups and, yeah perhaps placebo, but there seem to be far fewer awkward collisions.

In any case I'm enjoying it much more now on Professional, 1-bar.

 

[profit90]

In setting of pes is option windowed mode, and you right, input lag is gone on windowed mode you think when i disable v sync in catalyst input lag is gone on fullscreen?

input lag will be gone on fullscreen if you disable vsync yes, however the problem with fullscreen is that you will introduce the screen tearing problem. If screen tearing doesn't bother you then go for it.

 

[angus]

PC version this year is eerily similar to Ubisoft's release of WatchDogs, where the PC version was artificially dumbed down to not make the consoles look so bad. In that case however, a modder did a little tweak and all of a sudden WatchDogs on PC became 10x better than consoles.

It's similar in that I think Konami artificially dumbed it down to make the console version more attractive. Otherwise PS4 would get blown out of the water.

That's just a conspiracy theory I'd say. It's simple: The current gen versions are getting all the love and rightfully so, they're the future. Meanwhile the last gen versions are being phased out - rightfully so again. And the PC version may well be phased out also, PC sales account for only 2-3 % of Konami sales, so they're obviously not going to put a lot of time and resources into it. Just the way business works if you want to make a profit.

 

[profit90]

I fixed my 'problem' with passing.

I dropped down from Top Player to Professional and there is a big difference. Passing just seems 'right', and the ball even bobbles (in Top Player is seems to just slide)

Also, the CPU retains possession with some nice buildups and, yeah perhaps placebo, but there seem to be far fewer awkward collisions.

In any case I'm enjoying it much more now on Professional, 1-bar.

Yup. Professional is the best setting.

 

[Joker777]

Was it simple and silly before you knew how to do it, or just afterwards?

No.
I was used the biggest resolution, that's why i got problems.

 

[profit90]

That's just a conspiracy theory I'd say. It's simple: The current gen versions are getting all the love and rightfully so, they're the future. Meanwhile the last gen versions are being phased out - rightfully so again. And the PC version may well be phased out also, PC sales account for only 2-3 % of Konami sales, so they're obviously not going to put a lot of time and resources into it. Just the way business works if you want to make a profit.

That's totally a service issue. If they market this game early on Steam. Provide pre-order incentives and such, it will do fine. You can;t provide crap service and then complain. Everyone is moving towards servicing PC... You see it with NBA2K and FIFA. Ubisoft themselves who led the charge against trying to kill off PC, and then reversed policies about 2 years ago, have come out saying PC is a leading seller for them now. They (Ubisoft) used to delay the release by months, now the PC versions sell same day as everyone else and they market it. Result: sales are healthy.

It's all about the service you provide.

 

[profit90]

Gabe Newell: "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."

The proof is in the proverbial pudding. "Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam's] largest market in Europe," Newell said.

The purpose of Steam is to provide as much value not only to the customer but also to other game publishers. "Our success comes from making sure that both customers and partners (e.g. Activision, Take 2, Ubisoft...) feel like they get a lot of value from those services, and that they can trust us not to take advantage of the relationship that we have with them."

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem

 

[MadbaLL]

no input lag or responsiveness issue at all on my end, i don't know what are you talking about.

i compared pes 6 and fifa 14, it's same in pes 2015.

 

[maumau78]

Any info about no player introduction?
Is this a bug or they omitted just for PC?

Regards

 

[Jamezinho]

By the way, how the hell can a 2014 game don't have windowed fullscreen option ?

Anyway to get it ?

Windows Borderless Gaming is another program to try, if anyone is interested.

 

[nigelnire]

This game has great potential the gameplay is there but its missing so much. Anyone know why Konami omitted cut scenes ? Why on earth did they do this ? Can they be modded in? are they in the xbox one version?
Where are the fouls /penalties? this is meant to be football I went through a full game not one foul and the Ai chopped the life out of my players. If no fouls /penalties its not worth playing because its totally unrealistic. Then one of the cut scenes is after a foul or for a booking so no fouls no need for a cut scene.
The lod setting are shocking and the kits crazy but I hope they can be fixed like other years.
Could be 10/10 I live in hope it can be rescued by modders but at present 7/10 only saved from being the worst PES ever by the gameplay.