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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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Holy fuck shit people waiting with their fingers hovering over the board to nail Konami asap. looks like the Fifa trolls are in full effect this year. Good news for fans of the Konamis I suppose. Do FIFA really pay people to go on the net and slate the competition?

If konami released this they would still complain.
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And I am sorry but if you dont see the difference between 2014 and 2013 then you dont play PES on consoles, simple as
 
Looks pretty good. Don't care whether Robben has the correct amount of nosehairs or whether they're wearing licenced sweatbands, I care how it looks in motion.

No use looking great in screens if it's just more robotic bollocks
 
I am sitting at Dubai Airport and literally laughing at what I missed out on.

An animation from a still?! really?

And WTF is Adam doing LOL. "Brand Awareness" Dude does give us good info and communicates well but phew bite your tongue a bit. konami are gonna tell him to chillout.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
Seems like you got some 'first world problems' Rad :P

I can understand you being slightly upset but I am surprised at the fact your rushing to get the newest console's so soon, especially when as you pointed out the PS3 is in a healthy position with games, GTA5 is a current gen game, as is GT6 and so are yearly titles like PES and WWE which are games im interested in which makes it an easy decision for me to wait a year for all of these before needing to upgrade because normally the lack of library available on a launch console as well as the prices and latest software being extortionate with both likely to come down along with the yearly franchises like PES and WWE moving onto the newer platforms.

Konami have said the new engine is 'scalable' so its not been build with just current gen in mind, im sure there already working on PES15 too.
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Haha.

Well if the launch line up isn't that great I will delay buying. I've just saved a bit at a time now for a year so I have the rare luxury of being able to buy if I want on day 1. I usually have no choice but to wait until the price drops a year or so in so its kinda exciting to have the chance for day 1 purchase.

I just would have liked the option to play on next gen. I want a new machine and all the excitement that comes with it so its just a let down to find a favourite isn't going to be available. Gives me less reasons to buy next gen.
 
Even if the gameplay video looks good, people will complain...and even if the game is epic, people will find at least a few things to complain about. I have no problem with flaws being discussed about something.

I'm not talking about being blindly seeing the positive side of everything but it's about what you focus on when you speak. In general, a lot of people that complain on forums don't balance any discussion but just whinge like spoilt little brats who have a sense of entitlement to everything.

I understand why some people might have been expecting something more mind blowing from the screenshots but let's see the trailer and gameplay before we throw the baby out with the bath water...
 
Just weighing in on this Next Gen debate, it would much less of an issue if both consoles were backwards compatible. Well at least for those people who are getting rid of their old consoles or don't have room to keep both in their gaming area.

I know someone who is only buying an Xbox One on release because he loves Forza and it's not coming out on 360. For those who are planning a launch day purchase, are you wanting a new console for the sake of a particular game or for other reasons?

I would have thought that if the games you like aren't ready yet that you wouldn't just buy the console on launch day regardless.

I think it's a smart move from Konami to release a next gen version later on and hopefully capitalise on feedback from PES 2014 and then make a next gen game that can fully utilise the hardware. Just making a higher res version of PES 2014 would no doubt result in more work and more lost time that could have been better served elsewhere.

FIFA has a well established customer base - if PES released a game head to head with FIFA 14 on the new consoles, it won't automatically translate into PES eroding FIFA's sales. And if you're a PES only player and really dislike FIFA, will you now sell your old console knowing that you have to buy FIFA if you want to play a football game if you have a next gen console only?

There will be people that buy new consoles on launch, but realistically, I and many more will not be buying one for at least a year, unless prices are very similar to current consoles and stock is readily available and games are well priced.

Movies on Blu Ray haven't eliminated DVD's yet have they...
 
Jamezinho said:
For me I'm not too bothered about having to wait another year. If PES2014 brings better gameplay and improved animations then I'm happy with that. On the PC it already looks stunning at 1080p, 60fps - these two things are the missing pieces of the puzzle.
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Yeah but us PC players are still going to be stuck with the shit memory constraints of current gen consoles as Konami aren't going to add stuff that takes advantage of PC power until next year with their next-gen version.

I'm really disappointed with their parochial mindset.

Fuck knows I'm not going to play whatever shit-heap EA releases on PC again...so hopefully a 3rd party developer gets into the football video-game market(2K please).
 
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PC is really the last thing they would worry about. Why would they promote the PC version having HD everything and not the consoles? Most of their market are on consoles.
 
Id say the video tomorrow will be the bayern santos game in action, with plenty of talking from the devs explaining how the new tech works, probably will run for 6 minutes
 
Maybe the Community Angry Manager can tell us if they have finally fixed, after 15 years, the "5 home games in a row" classic konami quirk.

Any idea who are the commentators for various language?
 
Thespeedster84 said:
I remember one of pesgaming.com member cried out loud for this type of strategy/tactics to be implemented in a football game. Yet, many people seems to understate it/him. Now, look what we are going to have :))
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that mightve been me. and ive had many an argument about that topic with zeemeister from this website :P

something else from what yoiu pointed out "set up a variety of different tactics in key areas of the pitch using three or more players""; sounds very promising, like you can create tactical triangles to attack a specific weak point in your opponent.
 
uksix said:
PC is really the last thing they would worry about. Why would they promote the PC version having HD everything and not the consoles? Most of their market are on consoles.
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No most multiplatform games are marketed and demo'd on a pc to get the average joe saying wow this game looks cool and then get duped into buying it and playing on sub par graphics levels compared to the demo they saw of the game.

take case point of battlefield 3.
 
Evil Star said:
Yeah but us PC players are still going to be stuck with the shit memory constraints of current gen consoles as Konami aren't going to add stuff that takes advantage of PC power until next year with their next-gen version.

I'm really disappointed with their parochial mindset.

Fuck knows I'm not going to play whatever shit-heap EA releases on PC again...so hopefully a 3rd party developer gets into the football video-game market(2K please).
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If Konami were to release a next-gen version on the XBone/PS4 and exclude the PC version as EA have done with FIFA14, then I would be annoyed. It is what it is however - Konami aren't going next-gen this year on any format so I don't feel excluded as a PC player.

While what you said is true regarding the hardware limitations of current consoles, it's not as if the PC version really suffers from it. Out-of-the-box, PES2013 on PC looks substantially better than the console counterparts and can run at crazy frame rates. Fully patched it is like a different game and leaves FIFA standing.

If PES2014 brings better gameplay and improved animations then I think we are in for a very good PC version indeed.
 
Lami said:
Fame comes at a cost..

League mode, ML, edit mode, online, when will we know about all these? I hope soon and not late because I'm too eager. Need to know they were handled and enhanced. I care about these a lot.
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Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
 
Im glad konami havent conned us with PES14 like they did with PES6 when it comes to new consoles.

When the 360 came out PES6 followed but it was just an abox game in a 360 case.

At least we will know where we stand this time
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
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you´re lying, you like to suffer... if the game is perfect that you will probably do that you´re saying but if the game have many flaws you will be fully satisfied grumbling and complaining.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
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It'd be too late to protest as you'd have already bought/gotten the game man.
 
zeemeister said:
Holy fuck shit people waiting with their fingers hovering over the board to nail Konami asap. looks like the Fifa trolls are in full effect this year. Good news for fans of the Konamis I suppose. Do FIFA really pay people to go on the net and slate the competition?

If konami released this they would still complain.
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And I am sorry but if you dont see the difference between 2014 and 2013 then you dont play PES on consoles, simple as
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couldn't agree more...

haters gonna hate.
 
ftuner said:
For me is not important so photorrealistic graphic level, ONLY gameplay and phisics. Sorry but everybody is worry about licences, teams, stadiums, faces,...I don,t pay attention on this. For me is very simple... FREEDOM----->PHISICS, PLAYER MOVEMENT, GAMEPLAY that´s all.
Cheers
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I agree, graphics will be modded and improved by the PES community
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
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Make sure you wash your hands afterwards.
 
It's not fake. It clearly states "Not Final Artwork".

EDIT: Simcut beat me.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
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After reading this i really hope that Konami will fail at ML.
Send us link when u do that.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.
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Dont forget when your 4th choice 1legged playmaker come looking for the number 10 shirt
 
You know what haven't been keeping track of this game like previous years but thimgs look more encouraging this year with FINALLY a new engine.

This press release was positive for the talk of freedom of play which both football games lack. Graphics are secondary for me as its all about gameplay/animations/ai going forward.

Look forward to seeing proper gameplay footage. pes 14 game as a total package ml, league mode, leagues etc...could be a deal breaker for me.
 
Sabac Red said:
You know what haven't been keeping track of this game like previous years but thimgs look more encouraging this year with FINALLY a new engine.

This press release was positive for the talk of freedom of play which both football games lack. Graphics are secondary for me as its all about gameplay/animations/ai going forward.

Look forward to seeing proper gameplay footage. pes 14 game as a total package ml, league mode, leagues etc...could be a deal breaker for me.
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And of course, because is a World Cup year, they should bring back the great:

International Challenge Mode >

PES6 marks the first time the International Challenge Mode has been included on the PES Series. Usually this is seen on the Japanese version - Winning Eleven - where you play as Japan and take them through the qualifiers to the International Cup and then attempt to win it. On PES, however, you have the ability to choose any playable nation on the game. The user can only play the qualifiers from Europe, Asia, South America, and North/Central America. Although the tournament is not licensed, the qualifiers have a lot of similarities to the FIFA World Cup qualification process:
A cross-playoff is used between a South American team and an Oceanian team, and a North American team plays an Asian team.
There is the same number of qualifiers on the game from each region as there is in the real World Cup. e.g., 14 qualify from Europe.
The qualifiers from South America are the same - 10 teams play each other twice with the top 4 qualifying and 5th place entering the cross-playoff.
The qualifiers from North America are the same - 6 teams play each other twice with the top 3 qualifying and 4th place entering the cross-playoff.
Team selection can be changed before each game and the player can choose from any player with the eligible nationality.

That would be great!
 
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