PES 2014 Discussion Thread

[Deluxe]

You know what haven't been keeping track of this game like previous years but thimgs look more encouraging this year with FINALLY a new engine.

This press release was positive for the talk of freedom of play which both football games lack. Graphics are secondary for me as its all about gameplay/animations/ai going forward.

Look forward to seeing proper gameplay footage. pes 14 game as a total package ml, league mode, leagues etc...could be a deal breaker for me.

And of course, because is a World Cup year, they should bring back the great:

International Challenge Mode >

Spoiler

PES6 marks the first time the International Challenge Mode has been included on the PES Series. Usually this is seen on the Japanese version - Winning Eleven - where you play as Japan and take them through the qualifiers to the International Cup and then attempt to win it. On PES, however, you have the ability to choose any playable nation on the game. The user can only play the qualifiers from Europe, Asia, South America, and North/Central America. Although the tournament is not licensed, the qualifiers have a lot of similarities to the FIFA World Cup qualification process:
A cross-playoff is used between a South American team and an Oceanian team, and a North American team plays an Asian team.
There is the same number of qualifiers on the game from each region as there is in the real World Cup. e.g., 14 qualify from Europe.
The qualifiers from South America are the same - 10 teams play each other twice with the top 4 qualifying and 5th place entering the cross-playoff.
The qualifiers from North America are the same - 6 teams play each other twice with the top 3 qualifying and 4th place entering the cross-playoff.
Team selection can be changed before each game and the player can choose from any player with the eligible nationality.

That would be great!

 

[Kiba]

who's santos player with muller?
i hope that's not neymar.

 

[Simcut]

who's santos player with muller?
i hope that's not neymar.

It's not Neymar, its already been discussed

 

[Lami]

who's santos player with muller?
i hope that's not neymar.

Well does it look like Neymar to you?

 

[Kiba]

Well does it look like Neymar to you?

ups sorry i didn't read couple back pages.
it's really hard these day to name players,
this generation have some same style with their haircut,
you know mohawk/afro thing.
in old days it's much easier,scholes is the redhead one,r.baggio's ponytail,zidane's bald spot,ravanelli with his natural white hair

 

[winston]

Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.

Brings a whole new meaning to dropping your number 2 for the next match.

 

[Ameppe]

Hell yeah. This a massive part of the game that needs a complete overhaul from its stripped out state. If PES2014 ML still has scouts doing my transfers for me, internationals are a day before a club match, I have five or six home games in a row and my player form is completely nonsensical then I'm going to calmly eject the game disc, stand up, pull down my pants and do a massive dirty protest.

And I ain't kiddin'. Right there. A massive shit.

i asked Adam about modes, he said we have to wait longer for those news

 

[saintric]

Even if the gameplay video looks good, people will complain...and even if the game is epic, people will find at least a few things to complain about. I have no problem with flaws being discussed about something.

I'm not talking about being blindly seeing the positive side of everything but it's about what you focus on when you speak. In general, a lot of people that complain on forums don't balance any discussion but just whinge like spoilt little brats who have a sense of entitlement to everything.

I understand why some people might have been expecting something more mind blowing from the screenshots but let's see the trailer and gameplay before we throw the baby out with the bath water...

you know what mate I have been reading through and your post stuck out because your 100 per cent right, look at PES 5 which is spoke about like the greatest game ever but if you look at the PESfan archives it was really slated upon release people hated it!

the same will happen again with 2014.Have to admit upon seeing the screen I was gutted that it even resembled 2013 I was hoping after seeing the trailer it was going to look more organic more real like a washed out dirty look if that makes sense.I do hope it looks in motion like a brand new game because any trace of 2013 DNA is going to make alot of people really pissed off myself included

I can cope easily if its graphically the same then fine but it HAS to be obviously different when in motion or im not parting with my money for shit

 

[Ameppe]

I can cope easily if its graphically the same then fine but it HAS to be obviously different when in motion or im not parting with my money for shit

Spot on.
Especially since Pes problems were never in screenshots, but in movement, animations.
Now, that really needs to be addressed.

 

[b0m83dd]

you know what mate I have been reading through and your post stuck out because your 100 per cent right, look at PES 5 which is spoke about like the greatest game ever but if you look at the PESfan archives it was really slated upon release people hated it!

the same will happen again with 2014.Have to admit upon seeing the screen I was gutted that it even resembled 2013 I was hoping after seeing the trailer it was going to look more organic more real like a washed out dirty look if that makes sense.I do hope it looks in motion like a brand new game because any trace of 2013 DNA is going to make alot of people really pissed off myself included

I can cope easily if its graphically the same then fine but it HAS to be obviously different when in motion or im not parting with my money for shit

PES 2013 is my first ever PES game and at first I thought it was really strange, but I've grown to love it. It's way better than the canadian crap.

 

[Redhat]

No "next-gen" version? Financially, it makes sense, but my excitement level has basically dropped to zero. This generation is so long in the tooth and I'm tired of it. Looks like I'm stuck with FIFA yet again if I want a next-gen football game.

 

[curdstar]

No "next-gen" version? Financially, it makes sense, but my excitement level has basically dropped to zero. This generation is so long in the tooth and I'm tired of it. Looks like I'm stuck with FIFA yet again if I want a next-gen football game.

I'm curious, and extend this question to all, as to when you think you will be playing a next-gen FIFA game?

I think many people are assuming it will be a console release offering. I think that it is highly unlikely FIFA14 will be released on Xbox One/PS4 before Christmas. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

If EA, actually any publisher, can sell you something twice, they will. Besides, PES/FIFA current gen will be out well ahead of next-gen hardware. EA know that if this is the case they want all those people who will buy next-gen FIFA to buy current-gen too.

I expect 4/5 maybe even 6 months between the two versions release.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

you´re lying, you like to suffer... if the game is perfect that you will probably do that you´re saying but if the game have many flaws you will be fully satisfied grumbling and complaining.

Where the fuck did that come from?

 

[Jamezinho]

Remember back to the early FIFA releases on the 360. They were just PS2 games in (semi)HD clothing. It wasn't until FIFA08 arrived that we saw something fresh and interesting. The same could happen this time, or maybe not.

 

[Redhat]

I'm curious, and extend this question to all, as to when you think you will be playing a next-gen FIFA game?

I think many people are assuming it will be a console release offering. I think that it is highly unlikely FIFA14 will be released on Xbox One/PS4 before Christmas. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

If EA, actually any publisher, can sell you something twice, they will. Besides, PES/FIFA current gen will be out well ahead of next-gen hardware. EA know that if this is the case they want all those people who will buy next-gen FIFA to buy current-gen too.


I expect 4/5 maybe even 6 months between the two versions release.

Sure, but considering how much money FIFA makes (and the fact that they chose to showcase it at the Xbox One reveal), it wouldn't surprise me if it launched before Christmas. FIFA 06: RTTWC was a launch/near launch title for the Xbox 360. I could see why they'd want people to double-dip, though I find it difficult to believe that they'd release FIFA 14 in the spring and then FIFA 15 in the fall.

Besides, even if it was released 4-5 months after the next hardware launch, that would still be sooner than a next-gen PES.

Remember back to the early FIFA releases on the 360. They were just PS2 games in (semi)HD clothing. It wasn't until FIFA08 arrived that we saw something fresh and interesting. The same could happen this time, or maybe not.

Maybe, but again, FIFA wasn't as big then as it is now.

 

[goalgerd]

I'm curious, and extend this question to all, as to when you think you will be playing a next-gen FIFA game?

I think many people are assuming it will be a console release offering. I think that it is highly unlikely FIFA14 will be released on Xbox One/PS4 before Christmas. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

If EA, actually any publisher, can sell you something twice, they will. Besides, PES/FIFA current gen will be out well ahead of next-gen hardware. EA know that if this is the case they want all those people who will buy next-gen FIFA to buy current-gen too.

I expect 4/5 maybe even 6 months between the two versions release.

Id guess next summer with brazil 2014 being the first next gen fifa game

 

[Redhat]

Id guess next summer with brazil 2014 being the first next gen fifa game

Ah, good call. Completely forgot about the World Cup. I wonder if they'll have a full retail game or if it's going to be a DLC addon.

 

[goalgerd]

What time will we get the news at tomorrow?

 

[curdstar]

Sure, but considering how much money FIFA makes (and the fact that they chose to showcase it at the Xbox One reveal), it wouldn't surprise me if it launched before Christmas. FIFA 06: RTTWC was a launch/near launch title for the Xbox 360. I could see why they'd want people to double-dip, though I find it difficult to believe that they'd release FIFA 14 in the spring and then FIFA 15 in the fall.

Besides, even if it was released 4-5 months after the next hardware launch, that would still be sooner than a next-gen PES.



Maybe, but again, FIFA wasn't as big then as it is now.

They most certainly have enough money, and some would say stupidity, to do so, but I think what also needs to be factored in is that there simply won't be millions upon millions of units in which to sell, and even then, for all FIFA's might, it has "only" sold 12m across all platforms (including mobile versions) Sure, a hefty amount will be across PS3/360 but then when you consider that the current-gen regards PS3/360 alone is around 150m, they are not exactly selling to everyone.

It will be a hardware shifter, but I reckon it won't be the hardware shifter people think it will be. On top of all that, FIFA is a very social game in much the same vein as COD. Where one might well buy a PS4/Xbox One, many of their friends simply won't be right away; not necessarily because of money, but availabilty of the hardware itself, though it should also be said FIFA/COD only started selling silly numbers when this current-gen was referred to as "current-gen" and not "next-gen". When a generation becomes "current" it is because it is the accepted affordable standard, and even aggressive pricing of the new hardware on it's way won't change that any more quickly, at least not dramatically so. Gaming is a luxury to the bulk of the current 150m install base for PS3/360. They aren't all core gamers.

I take the point that it would be before PES on next-gen even if it was a few months down the line, but you still need the hardware to be openly available, which it might not be even then. Add to this that before PEs would only be a couple of months and while PES might not have a game good to go at the same time, there are other ways which they could get peoples attention.

Not that PES needs to be matching FIFA in terms of sales in any case. It is 12m FIFA v. 6m PES at the moment. Neither franchise is suffering in pure business terms and EA operate on a different marketing/promotion level than pES, which in some ways makes PES a huge success considering how little marketing it gets. There is obviously a core audience there and I don't think either game being first ensures folk walking away from the other.

 

[P34SEMM]

Any news on keepers??
Do they still have ISS deluxe animations when diving.
They've been poor since pes08.
They need a total revamp.

 

[saintric]

Adam was asked on twitter if they had been reworked and he simply replied no..they have been redone!

so brand new keepers?

 

[abriroyesejuiii]

ok, graphics 2013/2014 images..

differences?
please comment

for me? lights..
mmm textures??...

RIBERY TROLL FACE

 

[P34SEMM]

Adam was asked on twitter if they had been reworked and he simply replied no..they have been redone!

so brand new keepers?

Cool

 

[Issidingo]

Adam was asked on twitter if they had been reworked and he simply replied no..they have been redone!

so brand new keepers?

i still have the email sent by konami last year claiming they had redone keepers for pes 2013.

konami has been telling bullshit for years.

 

[majuh]

i still have the email sent by konami last year claiming they had redone keepers for pes 2013.

konami has been telling bullshit for years.

PES 2013 keepers were better than in any KONAMI game before. They made the most out of the existing technologies.

 

[vihn78]

And of course, because is a World Cup year, they should bring back the great:

International Challenge Mode >

Spoiler

PES6 marks the first time the International Challenge Mode has been included on the PES Series. Usually this is seen on the Japanese version - Winning Eleven - where you play as Japan and take them through the qualifiers to the International Cup and then attempt to win it. On PES, however, you have the ability to choose any playable nation on the game. The user can only play the qualifiers from Europe, Asia, South America, and North/Central America. Although the tournament is not licensed, the qualifiers have a lot of similarities to the FIFA World Cup qualification process:
A cross-playoff is used between a South American team and an Oceanian team, and a North American team plays an Asian team.
There is the same number of qualifiers on the game from each region as there is in the real World Cup. e.g., 14 qualify from Europe.
The qualifiers from South America are the same - 10 teams play each other twice with the top 4 qualifying and 5th place entering the cross-playoff.
The qualifiers from North America are the same - 6 teams play each other twice with the top 3 qualifying and 4th place entering the cross-playoff.
Team selection can be changed before each game and the player can choose from any player with the eligible nationality.

That would be great!

Give me this and a proper custom League Mode and i will be a happy man

 

[Jamezinho]

I played a couple of games of PES2013 tonight using Spanish La Liga teams. It still puzzles me to this day that Konami went to all the effort of modelling all 20 stadia and even going as far as including each team's walk-on anthems only to go and cut league mode from the game.

I keep telling myself they cannot make the same mistake again. Please tell me it's all going to be ok?

 

[dannyfc2]

Think you should be more concerned with bringing the return of Football Italia, Richardson.

 

[Jamezinho]

Think you should be more concerned with bringing the return of Football Italia, Richardson.

If only.

 

[Suuuuupertalk]

I played a couple of games of PES2013 tonight using Spanish La Liga teams. It still puzzles me to this day that Konami went to all the effort of modelling all 20 stadia and even going as far as including each team's walk-on anthems only to go and cut league mode from the game.

I keep telling myself they cannot make the same mistake again. Please tell me it's all going to be ok?

I share the same hope but Konami's bizarre history of design choices tell me to keep my expectations low. At least as far as game modes and ML design goes.