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Primepeace said:
Just looked at some pes 2014 videos, at the moment I prefer pes 2013
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You prefer PES 2013? If PES 2013 is football then i am the real Fernando Torres and i still play for Liverpool...:P

Mate if the PES 2014 is like the gameplay videos which we watched in E3 then it will be the first realistic football game with good graphics for KONAMI...

And the best footballgame ever...
 
Primepeace said:
Just looked at some pes 2014 videos, at the moment I prefer pes 2013
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I respect your opinion, even if it's completely fucking wrong.

Let the gameplay convince you. I've seen enough in the gameplay clips shown so far to see that this year's PES is quite different, and for the better. However, I certainly won't be proclaiming the return of the king until I've tried this game myself.
 
One day, I hope that I'll be able to to play League Mode online with another person. That would be glorious. Hell, I'd take co-op vs the AI! They had that in PES 2008, didn't they? Why did they get rid of it? It's 2013, give me some online modes.
 
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the way they are diving about in tackles looks worse than the impact engine..time will tell i suppose.

I still don't get the manual argument, how someone gets any joy in the AI dictating where the ball is going is beyond me, in PES 2013 at time I point to the man diagonal to me and the AI over rules me and passes it square, its so frustrating and like someone else said its so dated and eliminates all the open space
 
hitmanuk said:
the way they are diving about in tackles looks worse than the impact engine..time will tell i suppose.

I still don't get the manual argument, how someone gets any joy in the AI dictating where the ball is going is beyond me, in PES 2013 at time I point to the man diagonal to me and the AI over rules me and passes it square, its so frustrating and like someone else said its so dated and eliminates all the open space
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In the demo, I turned all assistance off, giving me complete control over where to put the ball. That immediately improved the game for me, but there were still too many things I didn't like about the demo to warrant buying the full game.

PES 14 looks to have sorted out most of them.
 
Japan did really well against Italy. This put all the myth of "Japanese don't know how to make a football game" to rest.

And what's with all these jargon game on WENB? It's like people are trying to prove something.
 
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The Doctor76 said:
I can't speak for PES assisted, but the competition on assisted is pure garbage.



Yep; that's exactly how it should work. How does it work right now in PES 13; do we know?
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Playing all manual leagues for the last year I can say that , to me, manuial passimg is still stat based the speed and accuracy of the passes with Xavi compared to Diaby, for example, is much better and easier to puLl off on short and long passes. Also playing one touch passing with Barcelona compared to Bafana is markedly easier.
This is very obvious when you play with the dfault ML squad and start buying bettter players.
This is debatable though as is the level of assistance from 1-4 bar which is hardly different imo. I honestly doubt konami will ever move away to "fully" manual. PES has always been stat based.


Shooting as well, whilst infinitely harder is much more satisfying. Even messi should be able to miss a goal from 6 yards out.
 
I'm agree with stats should count for something and should have degree of assistance. We are talking about controlling in-game player using analog stick with milliseconds of response time. I feel there's no need to overcomplicating things to achieve something simple.

What i don't like about full manual on PES 2013 is you can't override the receiver after you execute the pass. This is one of on rail movement that need to be gone in PES 2014. I think it's mostly related to the dated game engine since it bear the same characteristic with the old PS2 and PS1 era.

I need to see more relevant and detailed footage from the upcoming playtest.
 
zeemeister said:
Playing all manual leagues for the last year I can say that , to me, manuial passimg is still stat based the speed and accuracy of the passes with Xavi compared to Diaby, for example, is much better and easier to puLl off on short and long passes. Also playing one touch passing with Barcelona compared to Bafana is markedly easier.
This is very obvious when you play with the dfault ML squad and start buying bettter players.
This is debatable though as is the level of assistance from 1-4 bar which is hardly different imo. I honestly doubt konami will ever move away to "fully" manual. PES has always been stat based.


Shooting as well, whilst infinitely harder is much more satisfying. Even messi should be able to miss a goal from 6 yards out.
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Sounds good; hopefully they won't change it too much for PES 14.
 
losslesscompression said:
Japan did really well against Italy. This put all the myth of "Japanese don't know how to make a football game" to rest.

And what's with all these jargon game on WENB? It's like people are trying to prove something.
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Well, not really; a decent performance by the Japanese National team has nothing to do with whether Konami (or other Japanese people) know how to make a football game.

They can't do worse than the Canadian lot's 14, that's for sure.
 
zeemeister said:
Playing all manual leagues for the last year I can say that , to me, manuial passimg is still stat based the speed and accuracy of the passes with Xavi compared to Diaby, for example, is much better and easier to puLl off on short and long passes. Also playing one touch passing with Barcelona compared to Bafana is markedly easier.
This is very obvious when you play with the dfault ML squad and start buying bettter players.
This is debatable though as is the level of assistance from 1-4 bar which is hardly different imo. I honestly doubt konami will ever move away to "fully" manual. PES has always been stat based.
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I played in the same community ;)

Unassisted passing is definitely stat-based, fatigue plays a factor too. As does that damn online momentum.
 
theCRO said:
I played in the same community ;)

Unassisted passing is definitely stat-based, fatigue plays a factor too. As does that damn online momentum.
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Oh yes another thing konami fails to promote the fatigue impacts players ability significantly pity it seems to be time related rather than the actual ground the player covers.

Mind you i have noticed that you can conserve your teams energy levels till about the 80min mark.
 
zeemeister said:
Oh yes another thing konami fails to promote the fatigue impacts players ability significantly pity it seems to be time related rather than the actual ground the player covers.

Mind you i have noticed that you can conserve your teams energy levels till about the 80min mark.
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Has anybody noticed that if you try to control and make an off ball run with R-stick on a player with low stamina, he refuses to run at all? I'd like to see this more pronounced in other areas of performance as well.
 
Well they should just make a real stamina system. Some players are just programmed to run out of steam by the 60 minute mark regardless of the time spent sprinting or the ground they covered.
 
The Doctor76 said:
Well, not really; a decent performance by the Japanese National team has nothing to do with whether Konami (or other Japanese people) know how to make a football game.

They can't do worse than the Canadian lot's 14, that's for sure.
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David rutter
Nick Channon
Sebastian Enrique
Santiago Jaramillo

are not canadian, aren't day ?
 
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