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I reckon ML was stripped down partly because Konami were already massively behind schedule with PES 2014 (and probably because there's a team working on NG at the same time, diluting resources), and hopefully because a lot of work is in the pipeline for next year's ML. I remember how MM in FIFA 10(?) was seriously thin on the ground because they'd had to start pretty much from scratch, binning all the legacy PS2 stuff because it was creating a monumental amount of bugs while leaving no room to add anything else on top. Then they got WC2010's Simon Humber on the case and the result in the long term was something far more detailed that bled into the gameplay itself, creating a sense of continuity from off-pitch to on.

I'm hopeful that the plan is to hit the NG ground running, with the hit being a paper thin ML this year...

inf0 - that simply wouldn't be possible this gen. There's no comparison between the paltry number of AI calculations in FEAR and the huge number in sports games such as FIFA / PES.
 
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C'mon, PES 2011 was the first 'not so bad, maybe decent' pes this generation, you gotta give it some credit; especially how terrible pes 2012 turned out to be the next year. PES 2013 was probably the best pes on the old engine for me, it beats PES on the playstation 2.

I get what you guys are saying though about pes 2014; i score so many cheap goals, that scoring one does not even feel satisfying anymore, sometimes the CPU goalkeeper and defender just allows me to score. I can handle certain AWOL moments for my defenders, by manually selecting them, so i don't really concede many goals. In terms of difficulty of the CPU, this is probably the easiest one this generation. Scripting or not, maybe we need a little bit of that to give a decent challenge.

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I love sprinting with fast players in this game. Acceleration is so much more pronounced this year that it is just so easy to get pass a man once you get space and a head start. With the added physicality of the game, it is so satisfying to cut inside, brush off the defender and drill a low cross in the box.
 
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xicpanad said:
I don´t think that people complain too much now. I used to, but after seeing AI score me, in 4 consecutive matches, with a low cross to the first post, where my defenders just watched the hole thing... Come on, its kind of hard to ignore something like that.
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This is actually incredibly easy to defend against.

When you sense the opposition are looking to drive down the wing and then drive a low cross in, simply take control of the defender nearest to their striker in the box, stay on him, and when the ball comes in you will be ready to mop up. You are allowing the CPU to do this because instead of focusing on the man in the middle, you are simply running after the man down the wing. At least that was my problem. I've had that goal scored against me maybe once in the last two weeks now. Just change your approach.
 
Pedderrs said:
This is actually incredibly easy to defend against.
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You can, yes and your advice is a good one for sure.

But for me that is not the main problem. The problem is that the AI almost everytime pass it to the near post. That is boring and limited. It doesn't matter if you can or can't defend it. The problem is you will see and play the same situation over and over again.
 
Han said:
I am sure they work hard to solve the problems for the PS3.
In fact, the Xbox-problems were worse because people couldn't download and install the data pack, meaning they could not play online at all. On the PS3 the problem is serious, but at least you are able to play online.
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Are You kidding? Its able to play online? It's big shit! They work very hard to solve problem for 1 month? :APPLAUD:
 
PES 2011 was the first one that instill a glimmer of hope back to the franchise. It was quite a massive departure from 2010. Since then it become the template, including 2014.
 
I've said this before. I'm very convinced that PES 2014 was developed and tested in low-resolution. When I play this game on 576p (ratio 4:3), this is an incredible game. Great gameplay, brilliant AI and actually really difficult AI and some exciting bits of animations that you don't get to see in higher resolutions.

Doesn't cost you anything. Switch your PS3 to 576p and try it out yourself. By the way, I play WE 2014 with no patch, no data pack and no option file.
 
BlueChampion said:
I've said this before. I'm very convinced that PES 2014 was developed and tested in low-resolution. When I play this game on 576p (ratio 4:3), this is an incredible game. Great gameplay, brilliant AI and actually really difficult AI and some exciting bits of animations that you don't get to see in higher resolutions.

Doesn't cost you anything. Switch your PS3 to 576p and try it out yourself. By the way, I play WE 2014 with no patch, no data pack and no option file.
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If you go back and play PES 2013 in 480p (I can't do 576p for some reason) it also plays better than in 720p. Looks poor but just seems to play better:CONFUSE:
 
Hi All

Newbie here with an important question before I buy pro evo

I was a convert years ago.....but... I used to love creating a custom cup / champ league etc with 2 or more mates.... go into different groups..then play as the AI side against the human in his group to try and knock each other out.... konami stopped this a while back by refusing to let you move the idle controller over to the computer controlled team

is this option back in ? fifa allows the user to take control of any team against yourself....but this pro evo looks ace

I only really play against mates so the multi user cups is very important

any help would be appreciated

cheers
 
von hally said:
Hi All

Newbie here with an important question before I buy pro evo

I was a convert years ago.....but... I used to love creating a custom cup / champ league etc with 2 or more mates.... go into different groups..then play as the AI side against the human in his group to try and knock each other out.... konami stopped this a while back by refusing to let you move the idle controller over to the computer controlled team

is this option back in ? fifa allows the user to take control of any team against yourself....but this pro evo looks ace

I only really play against mates so the multi user cups is very important

any help would be appreciated

cheers
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It's back home slice
 
LOL some things never change :)

edit: is it just me or is that smiley face really annoying. Like you want to smack them around...even though it's just an emoticon haha
 
I haven't written about the game yet, but I've been playing on super star and top player, and i find that the biggest problem for me is that the players have no awareness. They have no awareness of the ball, of opposition players, that is the biggest problem. It seems like they are just there to fill a position and not to actually play that position. Apart from that, I can live with most of the other flaws ppl have spoken about, but that is a huge one.

Also, I seem to be hitting the woodwork quite a bit...almost every shot that is on target past the keeper is aimed at the posts or cross bar....I need more practice!
 
Deluxe said:
How a resolution thing can fix all the programming flaws that the game has? :CONFUSE:
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That's possible because in higher resolution, the animation cycles take longer time and certain things look like programming flaws. There's no programming flaw. It's visible in 576p that the game is simply brilliant. It's the HD that killed Pro Evo.
 
If you read the manual there's a line like this

"Please note depending on the type of television you use when playing this title, you may find that your controller inputs may be out of sync with the on-screen visuals. In such cases, please consult the Television's manufacturer regarding the suitability of your television for playing video-games."

In other words, it may have to do with responsiveness and input lag. So yes, it's not placebo. I already aware about this fact when i played Guitar Hero on my PS2 years ago. I had to recalibrate the latency to make it synchronize with the visual.
 
Rooney10 said:
We knew that right after PES6. They had many years to fix it. What were they doing?
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My comment in not in defence of Konami. I said what I said as just a statement of fact. What we do our game discs is up to us - we can play in 1080/720p or 576/480p or moan/groan/complain or return/sell the game or break the disc into pieces. Of which, what I'm enjoying is the 576p. Feels like a new game.
 
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