PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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SteelHorse75 said:
Do you think a patch/update mid November nearly 2 months after the game was released is acceptable?
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Gives you time to try out the game.

SteelHorse75 said:
Would you move into a house without a roof if they promised to put one on in 2 months?
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Are you insinuating that playing PES2014 pre-patch makes you wet if it's raining?

SteelHorse75 said:
Buy a beer and then get told you cant drink it for 2 months?
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Are you insinuating that PES2014 isn't working and you can only look at the intro video until they release a new patch?

SteelHorse75 said:
Konami are a disgrace the way theyve treated loyal fans.
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Firstly, you don't seem very loyal at the moment to be honest. Secondly, KONAMI is doing exactly the same as everyone else in the gaming industry. Scold them all or accept them all.

SteelHorse75 said:
At least send out a face/squad update within a week at the very latest to get that bit right. But no - even thats too much trouble.
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This is a one time event because they clearly haven't gotten around to copying and converting everything over from pes2013. Cry me a river.

SteelHorse75 said:
Im glad your enjoying it btw!
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Actually I'm not... I'm swamped in work and I hope several patches will iron out some misses by the time I've got time to play.
 
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xpeter said:
@yasujiro
Mate is it really better ?
Have you tried both?
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I played PES 2014 for a week, then I get my copy of WINNING ELEVEN 2014 Asia version on PS3. In WE 2014 response time is better and shooting is more poweful. The gameplay has subtle changes. Game is faster so I play in -2 speed. I play offline and only against CPU. I prefer unpatched version 1.00. I play PES since ISS PRO 98 and this is the best football game ever.
 
Deluxe said:
Indeed it seems that slowdonws happens more when you play player vs player.

Yesterday i had a tournament with my mates, 4 teams.

It's incredible how different the gameplay experience differs from when you play against CPU, the slowdowns on penalty box, and the response lag control are unplayable. Just try it if you have the chance playing with another people. I couldn't believe it, it was so frustrating. Btw i finished on the last place, and all the errors wasn't because of me.

The BIGGEST issue i hope Konami fix on november is the timing response. It's essential. I don't care about faces or stadiums.
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Exactly. I had 4 over the other day. So 5 in total. Can you imagine the lag? No such problem in previous or other games. At the same time imagine how much they slated the game.

It's offline for bloody goodness sake. Seriously got robbed by konami. No other game made from the 80s has a problem like this offline I dare say. Bloody clowns.
 
It's hardly unplayable. Actually, it's quite opposite. Even with annoying problems like player awareness, Goalkeepers, etc. it's very good at building up game, passing, collisions.

This annoys me as I spend time playing it all the time. Normally I would have just shove it away and wait for patches... But can't do it this year.

Addictive bugger -.-
 
Perhaps I've lost my mind, but when I check my squad list in ML I do not get to see a progression graph, as in past years. Just noticed this...
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
I'm not sure whether to stick with zero assistance or go to one bar. The game seems to come alive on zero, both sides seem to make more mistakes and the COM seems to knock it about a lot better. I may be thinking something that's not there but it seems that way. The pace is slower. Put it onto one bar and both teams feel laser guided. Zero assistance was perfect last year but now I feel they've made one bar too assisted and zero is fully manual.

As for the right stick I'm really not getting it. Yes, all sorts of flicks, holding in conjunction with left stick and/or R2 does a ton of stuff, but they just feel like skill moves. Some of the lend the idea of throwing body weight one way and moving the other,but most just feel like generic skill moves. I really like one that I found, however, which is to hold right stick in the direction you're facing then flick the left direction stick away from the direction you're travelling. This makes your player do a back heel turn.

But still, it doesn't really feel like proper control of body weight as such. Best use of the right stick for me is to shoulder barge and hold off fenders when you have the ball. Now they are two brilliant additions.
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Don't want to sound patronising or anything but you know you can also 'click' the right stick in to do moves don't you (not just hold it in certain directions)?
 
ZeroTheHero said:
Gives you time to try out the game.



Are you insinuating that playing PES2014 pre-patch makes you wet if it's raining?



Are you insinuating that PES2014 isn't working and you can only look at the intro video until they release a new patch?



Firstly, you don't seem very loyal at the moment to be honest. Secondly, KONAMI is doing exactly the same as everyone else in the gaming industry. Scold them all or accept them all.



This is a one time event because they clearly haven't gotten around to copying and converting everything over from pes2013. Cry me a river.



Actually I'm not... I'm swamped in work and I hope several patches will iron out some misses by the time I've got time to play.
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Err well..
Not loyal? I must be, I bought the shit that was pes08 right though to this mess. Been a fan since is on snes. FIFA couldn't compete back in the day!
I know what your saying re patch but EA have released two updates already why is it taking Konami 2 months. Not acceptable.
 
zeemeister said:
I just got the 2v2 and 11v11 beta from konami
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I would like to hear from you how the quality of the connection is, especially from 11 vs 11.
It would be miraculous if it works fine.
1 vs 1 lags already, so how would playing with more people affect the connection?
Maybe it is a completely rewritten netcode. That would be good news!
 
SteelHorse75 said:
Err well..
Not loyal? I must be, I bought the shit that was pes08 right though to this mess. Been a fan since is on snes. FIFA couldn't compete back in the day!
I know what your saying re patch but EA have released two updates already why is it taking Konami 2 months. Not acceptable.
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It's acceptable when you take in they're different games with different requirements. Whatever needs patching here doesn't apply there.

If you want to continue playing it just be patient. If your mind is already made up, which is obvious from all your posts, then please refrain from posting in here. You're being extremely repetitive.

Wait til November like you're saying and let us know your reactions then.
 
I believe we might get gameplay patch sooner than November. All is in KONAMI hands really.

They know their game is not good in a lot of areas imho. If not, then wtf were they smoking before releasing the game? Is there any Quality Assessment team there?

What they released is more like low-budget game at times not high-quality product they strive for.

Just saying. I still play it.
 
SteelHorse75 said:
WENB must have given up on this game. Theres normally about 2 podcasts about now on the new game.
Not this year.
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Adam was WENB. It was his baby and when Konami came calling (which I believe was his end goal) the site lost it's leader, and with it, all its direction.

Podcasts have stopped, editorial content is thin on the ground and the forums are nowhere near as tightly moderated as before (which is probably a good thing). I think the place will slowly fade away.

reinelt97 said:
I really thought Komami had done it this year with the new engine. They have in a way but they've tarnished the good work they've done on the pitch with awful modes, flaws and what at least looks like a blatant disregard for the loyal PES community that still remains.
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Ipswich69 said:
Rubbish, game is great.
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Look, I am enjoying the game for what it is but let's not be blinkered - the game is littered with problems and clearly isn't finished.

That's unacceptable, even in the age of post-release patches.

Then consider this:-

PC players were told they were getting a demo shortly after release. Now they are not getting one at all.

PC players were told the game would be available on Steam, day one. Still waiting.

Player rosters are badly out of date. We have no indication of when this will be corrected. If it comes in November then a wait of two months is unacceptable.

Well over half the stadia have disappeared yet Konami see fit to remove the stadium editor.

If this isn't stark unprofessionalism and disregard for loyal fans then I don't know what is.
 
Jamezinho said:
Adam was WENB. It was his baby and when Konami came calling (which I believe was his end goal) the site lost it's leader, and with it, all its direction.

Podcasts have stopped, editorial content is thin on the ground and the forums are nowhere near as tightly moderated as before (which is probably a good thing). I think the place will slowly fade away.





Look, I am enjoying the game for what it is but let's not be blinkered - the game is littered with problems and clearly isn't finished.

That's unacceptable, even in the age of post-release patches.

Then consider this:-

PC players were told they were getting a demo shortly after release. Now they are not getting one at all.

PC players were told the game would be available on Steam, day one. Still waiting.

Player rosters are badly out of date. We have no indication of when this will be corrected. If it comes in November then a wait of two months is unacceptable.

Well over half the stadia have disappeared yet Konami see fit to remove the stadium editor.

If this isn't stark unprofessionalism and disregard for loyal fans then I don't know what is.
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Add to that lack of testing.

Bad optimization on PCs.

Lack of setting options (removing Frame Skipping/Vsync?).

Remainders of ISSUES WHICH WERE PRESENT IN THE SERIES SINCE 2006... O_O
 
goonertcn said:
Don't want to sound patronising or anything but you know you can also 'click' the right stick in to do moves don't you (not just hold it in certain directions)?
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Yeah I do know that, but they're still just skill moves. I don't see what's so different about them.
 
i think we have great feature in our hand in this game .In previous years we never had the option of AI teams using customs tactics in ML or league mode.Now we can edit the three formations to custom and the AI teams will follow it in ML.This is class.Now I made sure the shift to attack option is below 8 for most teams ...make 0 for teams like arsenal,barca and AI plays wonderfully,slow build up,possession based football.Also Defensive line if its below 5 combined with shift to attack below 5 you have wonderful midfield contest.Its hard work editing 17 teams in d2 but do that and play in div 2 and its beautiful.AI will play as per your tactics which means that you get variety in the teams
 
jamiee said:
i think we have great feature in our hand in this game .In previous years we never had the option of AI teams using customs tactics in ML or league mode.Now we can edit the three formations to custom and the AI teams will follow it in ML.This is class.Now I made sure the shift to attack option is below 8 for most teams ...make 0 for teams like arsenal,barca and AI plays wonderfully,slow build up,possession based football.Also Defensive line if its below 5 combined with shift to attack below 5 you have wonderful midfield contest.Its hard work editing 17 teams in d2 but do that and play in div 2 and its beautiful.AI will play as per your tactics which means that you get variety in the teams
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Nice one will try this
 
Question to the experts who play master league. Do you still notice scripted games in which you are destined to lose no matter what. I have played few master leagues and I have noticed that my team is sort of crippled in the first few games and I keep conceding stupid goals that doesn't make any sense. I play with manual controls so I was wondering how other experiencing master league so far specially those who are playing manual. It might be down to the fact that I'm not good enough yet. Kind of disappointed that with the new engine I expected that this aspect of the game should be entirely eliminated.
 
wkhalil said:
Question to the experts who play master league. Do you still notice scripted games in which you are destined to lose no matter what. I have played few master leagues and I have noticed that my team is sort of crippled in the first few games and I keep conceding stupid goals that doesn't make any sense. I play with manual controls so I was wondering how other experiencing master league so far specially those who are playing manual. It might be down to the fact that I'm not good enough yet. Kind of disappointed that with the new engine I expected that this aspect of the game should be entirely eliminated.
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Maybe placebo but I find games in 1.00 less scripted than in 1.01.
 
yasujiro said:
Maybe placebo but I find games in 1.00 less scripted than in 1.01.
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I play version 1.0 too. It doesn't happen frequently, like PES 2013 for example, but it still there. I wonder when they'll just do away with these types of cheats and focus on giving control to the player. It feels stupid when the cripple your team as opposed to enhancing the AI. Again it doesn't happen all the time but it shouldn't be there at all. I'm sure they know that gamers are smart enough to notice these types of scripting!!
 
henrys hand said:
Well I am certainly not joking. L2 the same button as for manual passing allows for closer keeping of the ball. It is imho great for changing direction and dribbling and prefer it to the use of R2 that causes this additional rolling the foot around the ball move.
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I'm sorry, but I believe that to be factually incorrect. I believe that L2 does nothing to movement. Nobody else here has agreed that it does anything either. I think you're suffering from an extreme kind of placebo effect. It's baffled me.
 
Houldey said:
I'm sorry, but I believe that to be factually incorrect. I believe that L2 does nothing to movement. Nobody else here has agreed that it does anything either. I think you're suffering from an extreme kind of placebo effect. It's baffled me.
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You are right, I tried it out again and it seems to do nothing. It seems like close control is always on and it's really easy to turn with the ball around as long as one doesn't run.

Placebo indeed but I like to press L2 as it gives me the feeling of doing something to get that close control and it balances out my hands on the controller.
 
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