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Do you think simple patch will get rid of this:

YouTube - Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 - GK blooper again HD

I hate this animation. Haven't seen goalkeeper in real life use this move so much as it happens in Pro Evo...

It's BAD. This should COULD have been saved if goalkeeper... Dived properly. But instead KONAMI thought, it would be brilliant if he fell on his knees here and look like a complete retard.

I hate this:(.
 
2 things: Ronaldinho is an absolute nightmare to play against, the amount of tricks he uses is incredible, I give up trying to tackle him and focus on his intended targets instead :P

Secondly, I think 50% of my goals come from stealing the ball of the defenders or defensive errors, not really happy about this.
 
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Do you think simple patch will get rid of this:

YouTube - Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 - GK blooper again HD

I hate this animation. Haven't seen goalkeeper in real life use this move so much as it happens in Pro Evo...

It's BAD. This should COULD have been saved if goalkeeper... Dived properly. But instead KONAMI thought, it would be brilliant if he fell on his knees here and look like a complete retard.

I hate this:(.
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Yea, Konami have way overused that animation.
 
So if the patch is dated for November hope that 1,02 includes:

- Gameplay fix. Based on this week users feedback on the official PES communities around the globe.
- LOT of Faces.
 
Wilko22 said:
Secondly, I think 50% of my goals come from stealing the ball of the defenders or defensive errors, not really happy about this.
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Ditto. I've lost count of the number of goals I've scored where I've pressured and tackled the last defender, or benefitted from poor defending. I can only count a small handful of goals where I feel I truly earnt them, the sense of the COM gifting me a goal is ruining the sense of satisfaction PES normally gives.
 
Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 5m

Gameplay fixes we're looking at are GK's, shooting&AI tweaks. Also some more fluidity to star player dribbling. Obviously, eardicating bugs
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Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 2m

And finally, happy to say face count in the game will be over 1000 after DLC. Currently we have under 300, huge update coming #PES2014
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Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 21s

Ppl asking about faces,most requested ones are in. People can stop worrying about Riquelme and Rafael soon! Full details in the coming weeks
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Régis Cottin ‏@Gigis71OM 21h

@Adam_Bhatti News of patch 1.02 and DLC 2.0? When ? 7 of October? 15? Thanks to communicate.#PES2014PC
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Adam Bhatti ‏@Adam_Bhatti 20h

@Gigis71OM at a guess November
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Can you add a guest user in online mode in this? i.e. 2 people on one console, 2nd controller presses Start and you can co-op against others online?

That's the deciding factor as to whether I get PES this year.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Ditto. I've lost count of the number of goals I've scored where I've pressured and tackled the last defender, or benefitted from poor defending. I can only count a small handful of goals where I feel I truly earnt them, the sense of the COM gifting me a goal is ruining the sense of satisfaction PES normally gives.
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It's even more evident online I think.

Games enjoyable, but again, it's very similar to the older FIFA games at times.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
Ditto. I've lost count of the number of goals I've scored where I've pressured and tackled the last defender, or benefitted from poor defending. I can only count a small handful of goals where I feel I truly earnt them, the sense of the COM gifting me a goal is ruining the sense of satisfaction PES normally gives.
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im saying that for years and everyone calles me a lunatic :PIRATE:
 
Played a couple of games this morning to try and be really objective on the game without approaching it optimistically or the doom & gloom this last 10-15 pages has been.

Across the two games:

- Scored two screamers from outside the box on normal shooting
- Scored a fantastic header from a cross
- Got awarded 2 penalties
- Opponent got a yellow card
- No response issues or stuttering (US Xbox360 version)
- No outrageous goalkeeping or mental defending

I realize I may have hit the perfect storm where the most common bugs/complaints didn't occur but it genuinely was a fantastic experience. It shows the game can be close to perfection but obviously, the bugs reported are occurring to a degree it's pissing a lot of people off. I honestly don't see that a game-fixing patch should be an impossible dream.
 
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Right, I was planning on putting this off until my console would get an option file (I'm on Xbox), but I'm going to jump into ML now and play for a few hours. I will return with my impressions afterwards. I've had matches here and there, but nothing concrete, so I think this is the best way to get a good overall view of the game. Let's have a looksie.
 
Recently posted by Robbye Ron, PES south american community manager:

#PES2014 Adam Bhatti communicate this morning via Twitter that the PES team in Japan has received all your suggestions and we are working day and night to solve several details that we find to play PES.

About GAMEPLAY, they are watching the keepers, tweaking shots on goal and artificial intelligence AI, movements flow is important when a player starts to dribble. Obviously remove bugs.

It is very important to remain calm, the team confirmed the release of a DLC containing over 1000 faces, PES2014 today nearly 300 just a very down for a game of this generation. Players like Rafael and Riquelme will have his face soon.

Thanks to everyone who left feedback, we will work to improve this game. We again ask for your patience with the times as the production team truly works late at night to solve our problems.

A hug!
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*Using Google Translate
 
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It truly seems as if they where told by seniors at Konami to release the game early. They said for us to 'Be patient'. We are working hard. I believe this but the whole patience thing says to me they where never going to get this done on time.

It's up to us, the consumers to decide to wait until this update hits or just end up playing something else entirely.

One question we need to look at is, maybe the early release helped them identify more bugs than if they had delayed the game.

It seems as if they will fix the main gameplay issues, shame nothing has been mentioned in regards to slow replays :( That must be one of those core errors they can't do anything about this year.
 
They should bring production of the game forward and get it into what they consider to be a release candidate and then send it out to people in the comunity to trial.

Then get feed back, work on the game, then release a demo.

There is no point in them releasing a demo that is not as polished as the game will get as a lot of people will try it and make their minds up then. I can't think of any other demo that is released where you know there is still work that will be done on game play.

I think Konami thought the new engine and graphics would blow people away so it didn't matter if there was issues.
 
klashman69 said:
It truly seems as if they where told by seniors at Konami to release the game early. They said for us to 'Be patient'. We are working hard. I believe this but the whole patience thing says to me they where never going to get this done on time.

It's up to us, the consumers to decide to wait until this update hits or just end up playing something else entirely.

One question we need to look at is, maybe the early release helped them identify more bugs than if they had delayed the game.

It seems as if they will fix the main gameplay issues, shame nothing has been mentioned in regards to slow replays :( That must be one of those core errors they can't do anything about this year.
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It works for hardcore PES players like us, who knows more about the world outside the game. And this is a low % of the players.

I don't know if in your countries happens, but you can't imagine what i found on every yellow press articles about PES vs FIFA, Faces, stadiums, etc etc. When "ordinary" player read them, immediately judges the game and changes to the competition. Konami should rethinks his communicarion strategies for this kind of problems.

Common players are not patient, they want all working perfectly on day 1.
 
Pedderrs said:
Right, I was planning on putting this off until my console would get an option file (I'm on Xbox), but I'm going to jump into ML now and play for a few hours. I will return with my impressions afterwards. I've had matches here and there, but nothing concrete, so I think this is the best way to get a good overall view of the game. Let's have a looksie.
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Yeah I'm gonna try a ML on Professional and see how I get on, I was waiting for a roster update at the very least, but I'm not waiting until some time in November for that. I'll have to try and add an OF for 360 and do some of the transfers myself.

If I really don't like it then I'm gonna wait for FIFA on PS4 instead. The two games are getting more and more similar each year anyways.
 
Deluxe said:
It works for hardcore PES players like us, who knows more about the world outside the game. And this is a low % of the players.

I don't know if in your countries happens, but you can't imagine what i found on every yellow press articles about PES vs FIFA, Faces, stadiums, etc etc. When "ordinary" player read them, immediately judges the game and changes to the competition. Konami should rethinks his communicarion strategies for this kind of problems.

Common players are not patient, they want all working perfectly on day 1.
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Is the very worst in the UK, it's just disgusting corrupt here. talk Sport have Adboards in FIFA and typically on Wednesday a guy came in reviewing the game, said nice things about FIFA and took snipes and PES, saying it was bad because 'lack of licenses'.

It's pathetic, they didn't even mention the gameplay. It's so, so shallow but it works on society these days. Because the mass market doesn't know depth, are very easily lead and people are more insecure than ever and have to follow others and just regurgitate what people say on the TV, or internet or radio.

Konami needs to understand this if they want to increase sales. It's about Bells and Whistles and Gimmicks here.

Konami have it hard enough already in regards to it's game needs modding for kits and licenses which puts people off who just want everything setup and ready for them on release. The gameplay is clearly miles and miles better than FIFA's totally broken mess despite the flaws in PES. Even if this patch fixes all the flaws which it probably will anyway and be outstanding. You can't market that enough.

They need better networking and more contacts in the west. They need more people to invest and work in partnership with the game. Konami fail badly in the marketing war every year, it's not like the PS2 days where it wasn't nearly as blatantly corrupt as now. You need sponsor certain gaming sites and connect with more organizations to promote your product.

Also helps to finish the game ontime :LOL:
 
Chimps-with-quiffs said:
They should bring production of the game forward and get it into what they consider to be a release candidate and then send it out to people in the comunity to trial.
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But it's so easy to casually type "bring the production of the game forward", isn't it? The reality for a dev team is that you never have enough time, nor enough people and still a deadline to meet. They'll be crunching just to get the thing shippable for the date they already had.

Because games are exponentially more expensive to make now, it becomes ever more important to hit that release date (a date chosen for a reason) in order to maximise return.

Games these days hardly ever miss release dates, whereas a while back the industry had a reputation for it. There are reasons for that and Konami is in the same boat as everyone else.

Any feedback the community has (and one only needs to read these threads to judge the reliability/consistency or otherwise of that) can be for 2015.
 
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Just got my copy of Winning Eleven and I was thrilled to have the chance to use my favourite J-League team for Master League and MLO. Speaking of which, MLO was very immersive with little lags but doesn't affect the overall gameplay. Maybe Winning Eleven has a more polished product as compared to PES but I will never know for sure why.
 
Finally tried WE retail. Shooting was obviously improved.

Game is really good. Very deep game and really looks and feels like pes6.

Just need slightly more power in shots and have to iron out the slightest sluggishness that comes every now and then in the game. I think 1.02 is being looked at for both so we are in for a good year!
 
Rooney10 said:
Anyone has any guide or idea how to install game data to ps3 hdd? Does it help the game?
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It's easy. Go to option and there you will find something like "install" or "installation". Don't now how it's called in english version. But you will find it easily. And yes it helps a bit but don't forget to choose 720p resolution on your PS3. That helps a lot.
 
Robbery said:
It's easy. Go to option and there you will find something like "install" or "installation". Don't now how it's called in english version. But you will find it easily. And yes it helps a bit but don't forget to choose 720p resolution on your PS3. That helps a lot.
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Do we lose anything on graphics if we do so? Because I realiSe my ps3 automatically scales pes to 720p while loading. So shldnt the default already be 720p?
 
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