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My enjoyment of the game is being totally shit upon right now because of the numerous game play issues, heres a few examples just from a few matches last night ...

1. My GK f**cks up....again!

YouTube - PES issues 1

2. My defender tracks the attacker then blocks the shot, then just stands there like a moron, i couldnt take control of him or switch back to him or anything

YouTube - PES issues 2

3. CPU attacks and I instruct (hammer the circle button) my defender to clear the ball first time, but he wont, and never will, always wants to take a touch and control the ball first, leading to this ..... happens all the time.

YouTube - PES issues 3

Shit like this shouldnt be happening in a professionally designed game.
 
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Pere Ubu said:
I've not noticed the heart feature doing anything at all. I've also never seen any of my players change colour mid-game. Not started a season yet; I guess it becomes more obvious there.
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Nope. I have not seen it either in league mode.I constantly checked during matches, no change,even if you score two goals the icons wont change. Acc to the ingame tutorial video they should.


It changes between games random but not during games.

Another glitch. This game on ps3 is a disgrace with huge potential, which won't be uncovered.

Shame on Konami
 
Why did they release this game so unfinished really? I can't believe I wasted my time following this thread and giving them a chance again.... So many ppl are complaining. I think it's close to being as bad as 2008.
 
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xPJRx said:
3. CPU attacks and I instruct (hammer the circle button) my defender to clear the ball first time, but he wont, and never will, always wants to take a touch and control the ball first, leading to this ..... happens all the time.
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You should be hammering square though (if that is your shot button) - That is the clear button. It can still be unresponsive at times.
 
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Why did they release this game so unfinished really? I can't believe I wasted my time following this thread and giving them a chance again.... So many ppl are complaining. I think it's close to being as bad as 2008.
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Even my girlfriend understood my frustration.

I have been waiting for 7 years, every autumn same disappointment.

This year first time I was fooled by the videos just to became more disappointed.

And Adam Bhatti's impact was minimal, he had no clue about the developement. Maybe not his fault, but it's no reason to act arrogant.
 
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I started an ML as Ajax about five games in. In Squad List, player stats show Teamwork, and all my players are at 99. But when I go into Next Game and then Game Plan before Kickoff, and select a player to check his stats or change his position, there is no Teamwork stat available. All the other stats are there, I guess. During a game, in Game Plan, when you check the players stats, do you see a Teamwork stat? I would love for someone to tell me that I am wrong. I would rather be blind and wrong about this. I always loved the Teamwork stat in ML.
 
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Penalties straight after regular time is real in Copa Libertadores (knockout stage) ?
 
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Something about ML. I'm playing with default players, Allejo and company (miss you Castolo) And in some time, they notice me that Allejo was called to play for his national team. But just after this, on my next match, he still there on my lineup. It's normal?

Please check if happen with your players that goes to the national team.
 
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xPJRx said:
My enjoyment of the game is being totally shit upon right now because of the numerous game play issues, heres a few examples just from a few matches last night ...

1. My GK f**cks up....again!

YouTube - PES issues 1

2. My defender tracks the attacker then blocks the shot, then just stands there like a moron, i couldnt take control of him or switch back to him or anything

YouTube - PES issues 2

3. CPU attacks and I instruct (hammer the circle button) my defender to clear the ball first time, but he wont, and never will, always wants to take a touch and control the ball first, leading to this ..... happens all the time.

YouTube - PES issues 3

Shit like this shouldnt be happening in a professionally designed game.
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That sums it up pretty well! Have had all of those happen to me on a regular basis. Especially that goalkeeper trick, when they save the ball without being able to hold on, and sort of just rolls it over their body like some sort of circus trick - that's a regular. Very annoying!

chimps - no, no way to upload replays to any online server, unfortunately. :(
 
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everyone talks about shooting with R2, but I've had a really good experience shooting with L2 (yellow bar instead of blue). Its manual but it always puts lots of power in the shot. Only downside is , its super inaccurate.
 
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bonyi said:
Even my girlfriend understood my frustration.

I have been waiting for 7 years, every autumn same disappointment.

This year first time I was fooled by the videos just to became more disappointed.

And Adam Bhatti's impact was minimal, he had no clue about the developement. Maybe not his fault, but it's no reason to act arrogant.
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Exactly. But this year I was extra disappointed really because I followed probably every page in this thread and the gameplay videos were so good.

A part of me hope they come back again in the future and another hopes they just really pack up and go home. Don't release another game again.
 
And I keep telling everyone that there's really a good game hiding underneath. And it's true. But you do not release a beta game like that. No way. Shooting compensated for their own foolish keepers. Try shots in training without keepers and compare them in a real game in pes.
 
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Rooney10 said:
A part of me hope they come back again in the future and another hopes they just really pack up and go home. Don't release another game again.
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Well as long as you are not being overly dramatic about it
 
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bonyi said:
Nope. I have not seen it either in league mode.I constantly checked during matches, no change,even if you score two goals the icons wont change. Acc to the ingame tutorial video they should.


It changes between games random but not during games.

Another glitch. This game on ps3 is a disgrace with huge potential, which won't be uncovered.

Shame on Konami
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Is for other platforms different?
 
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radha1 said:
I started an ML as Ajax about five games in. In Squad List, player stats show Teamwork, and all my players are at 99. But when I go into Next Game and then Game Plan before Kickoff, and select a player to check his stats or change his position, there is no Teamwork stat available. All the other stats are there, I guess. During a game, in Game Plan, when you check the players stats, do you see a Teamwork stat? I would love for someone to tell me that I am wrong. I would rather be blind and wrong about this. I always loved the Teamwork stat in ML.
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I noticed something very similar in the Edit mode. Where it lists players stats on their main page, there is a stat for Work Rate. If you select the players ability to edit the stats, Work Rate is not listed.

I went in looking for Teamwork and couldn't see that stat anywhere in the edit mode. I wondered if work rate was the same thing.

In previous versions teamwork was a very important stat as upping it made the computer controlled team pass the ball about much more and icreased their AI.
 
My Heerenveen just beat Ado Den Haag with a last minute header. Awesome stuff. In other news, it seems that "heart" does indeed not change in game. Makes it rather pointless... It is on by default, right?
 
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My Heerenveen just beat Ado Den Haag with a last minute header. Awesome stuff. In other news, it seems that "heart" does indeed not change in game. Makes it rather pointless... It is on by default, right?
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Agreed. I have not seen even the slightest change in heart in the Game Plan during a game. However, I may have felt heart changes during the game but there is nothing to confirm this. After the game, however, heart is noticeably changed by results.

Please someone else check Teamwork in ML. Re: my previous post.

Edit: Oops, please see above post by Chimps, although it doesn't explain the issue of 99 Teamwork stat for all players on my team.
 
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I absolutely love this game. But if i concede another goal if my defender doesn't clear it when i press the button im going to smash the controller. Likewise in the other box the amount of goals ive not scored because a touch is taken when its not wanted.

This game has the potential to be a classic too.

Did we get to the bottom the 720p improves anything?
 
I think Heart may still change in game but it isn't visible in the gameplan - (which is clearly the most unfinished part of the game, laggy, unresponsive and plainly just wont work at times, when trying to switch between the buttom icons) I just Beat Pec Zwolle 6-1 and at 3-0 they just caved and let in 3 goals in quick succession.
 
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xPJRx said:
My enjoyment of the game is being totally shit upon right now because of the numerous game play issues, heres a few examples just from a few matches last night ...

1. My GK f**cks up....again!

YouTube - PES issues 1

2. My defender tracks the attacker then blocks the shot, then just stands there like a moron, i couldnt take control of him or switch back to him or anything

YouTube - PES issues 2

3. CPU attacks and I instruct (hammer the circle button) my defender to clear the ball first time, but he wont, and never will, always wants to take a touch and control the ball first, leading to this ..... happens all the time.

YouTube - PES issues 3

Shit like this shouldnt be happening in a professionally designed game.
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I've experienced the same as in the first video several times now, my keeper slides out then spills the ball, or even slides in and tackles my own defender, knocking the ball to a forward, who has an empty net.

On the other hand, I've benefitted twice now from the COM keeper just throwing the ball straight to my forward who taps it into an empty net. Bad keeper AI all round really.

On another note, day seven and still no word on the 360 data pack download working. It just sits there at 0%.
 
Hi Guys,

I registered today to give my thoughts on the game. I'm not trying to gloat or anything, but I consider myself a very accomplished football gamer, probably because I have been playing for so so long. All I have ever wanted in a game is AI to challenge me and then I would love the game.

I wanted to try out PES this year because of all the news regarding the fox engine. I am going to echo a lot of sentiments on here about how the game here is unfinished, but if finished it would be great. I just feel there are too many game breaking moments which I have tried to list:

1)The defensive line is always mega high. After changing it for the CPU, it still is very high. A lot of my goals are one on one because someone has just ran right through from half way line.

2)The responsiveness of the players. Those 3 videos just recently posted happen way to often. He is right. This type of stuff shouldn't happen in a football game on that regular basis.

3) Scored a lot of goals from the CPU playing it at the back and the high pressure from me basically gifts me a goal.

4)Anyone noticed how the goal keepers parry the balls to your striker and you can just tap it in empty net?

I'm kinda bummed cos I was definitely looking for a change of game this year, but these errors are unforgivable. You can be playing a sweet game of football and then you are taken out of the reality of it by one of the game breaking errors.

I honestly hope a patch fixes all these things but I think it's a long wait till next year for NG versions :(.
 
The more I play this the more I'm gutted by it. I've waited so long for PES on a new engine and now it's arrived, it's all over the place.

I tried a league mode tonight as Napoli, ended up turning it off after one game. I lost 3-1, I took the lead thanks to a punt down the field that went over everyone's head and their keeper bizarrely stood and left the ball as it rolled into the net. Pathetic.

Next, the COM scores from, yep, you guessed it, a lofted through-ball. 1-1. Did they design the entire game around the mechanic of lofted through passes?

Next, this happens. Notice on the video several things wrong with my off the ball defenders. The ball is way back in the top right of the screen, but check out this dude keeping everyone on-side near the bottom of the screen.

After this, check out my player in the middle of the park just leaving the other runner and actively shuffling in the opposite direction to the play.

And lastly, when the guy on the wing has the ball, check out my full back who decides to run in the opposite direction and what looks like off the pitch entirely.

YouTube - 1

After this, the guy crosses the ball in, and the volley is weak and straight at my keeper, who's body position is already of one that means he's going to palm it into his own net. Which he does. And even if he saved it, check out the striker on the right hand side completely unmarked.

YouTube - 2

Oh and the third goal was right out of the old PES games. My keeper parried a shot out, and my right back, who was marking the nearest forward, reacted by shuffling slowly AWAY from the ball while the striker he's marking moves towards the ball and hits it into an empty net.

I mean c'mon, Konami, this isn't good enough. Defenders running all over the place, keepers who seem to be messing up almost every game I play.....and the rest of the game.... I can't even download and install the data pack, transfers from last June haven't even been recognised, player faces are appalling, the crowd noises are terrible (the home crowd in that match would let out a roar when they scored, but when they narrowly missed a chance it went virtually silent?!). And the game modes. Really. There's absolutely fuck all to do in them. Nothing. They're like watching paint dry. Just skip to the next game.

I though this was an amazing game just a few days ago but it's wearing thin already. I could overlook all the other aspects were it not for the fact that the defensive AI and goalkeepers in this are worse than any other football game I've seen. They should have done what EA have done and just gone for a PES2013 update on current gen consoles, and give themselves another year with the focus on next-gen, because this game isn't finished - which is odd, because I experienced none of these issues in the demo.
 
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