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Lami said:
Completely agree with these.

Add to them also that sometimes I pass the ball in space for a specific player but instead the game decides to pick a further one. Annoying. This is breaking my passing rhythm.

CPU shouldn't be accurate with their passing. There should be more error than this.

Defenders not properly zone marking at times in addition to not holding their lines properly when playing a high line causes lots of successful through balls. I don't mind the through balls as irl teams will do whatever to exploit any teams defenses. My issue is with my defense's AI like these 2 I mentioned already.

Game needs to be more responsive when shooting. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're successful, but at least execute the command instantly even if I press shoot at the wrong time resulting in a failed shooting attempt; don't mind this at all.

Great game but really needs these fixes.
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i've previously been complaining about the error margin with shooting for advanced but it's clear that this extends to any form of shooting. I've seen the ball hit the post so many times now. it's like shots either have to hit the target (+woodwork) or they won't be pulled off at all.

it's funny you mention defenders not holding their line cos i've also seen them actually hold their line in completely inappropriate situations, such as when one single player has the ball and attacks them. they all just stand there retreating ina line and nobody covers the fact i might possibly beat the defender i'm going 1 on 1 against
 
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Ipswich69 said:
Shit, with all these issues maybe I should just stick with demo 2 this year:CONFUSE::LOL:
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Great game with great potential really. Just these little niggles if fine tuned would make the gameplay perfect for me.

Off the pitch is another thing altogether.
 
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IT'S HERE!!!

PES 2014 IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DIGITAL DOWNLOAD ON UK PSN!!!

7,371 MB. Download started!!
 
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robbieryan said:
i've previously been complaining about the error margin with shooting for advanced but it's clear that this extends to any form of shooting. I've seen the ball hit the post so many times now. it's like shots either have to hit the target (+woodwork) or they won't be pulled off at all.

it's funny you mention defenders not holding their line cos i've also seen them actually hold their line in completely inappropriate situations, such as when one single player has the ball and attacks them. they all just stand there retreating ina line and nobody covers the fact i might possibly beat the defender i'm going 1 on 1 against
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You're on advanced right?

On manual I hardly getting anything on target :LOL: When I do though it's very satisfying. Hardly hit the woodwork though.
 
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Also, the keepers I felt were the best I've ever seen in a PES game. Some of the shots that were saved looked unreal, and in other PES versions, would certainly have found the back of the net.
 
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Right played a few more games. I dont like it.
There are bugs all over it. Just launch a long ball up field and you are one on one every time.
Curser changing is dreadful. The animations when shooting are awful.
As usual with Konami in recent years theres a good game in there but its bugged to death and broken in places.
This game feels souless for me.
Finally - Riena and Higuain are not at Napoli. They joined late July early August. Seriously!!!!
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
Also, the keepers I felt were the best I've ever seen in a PES game. Some of the shots that were saved looked unreal, and in other PES versions, would certainly have found the back of the net.
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Thought the same until i scored cheeky lob shot over cassilias. Ball went like 2 centimeters above his head and he didn't react at all to it. Lob shots are very easy to score overall.
 
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BlueChampion said:
LOL thanks. By the way, the digital download is a premium bundle that comes with the online pass, DLCs and also various PES avatars.
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Downloading, 0% complete:LOL: Quite surprised to see all that stuff bundled in there, 3rd kits, stadiums etc...
 
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Game feels different than the demo. In the demo you rely heavily on R1x2 for the burst of speed to get past a player but in this game I could easily sprint past players using R1.
 
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Lami said:
You're on advanced right?

On manual I hardly getting anything on target :LOL: When I do though it's very satisfying. Hardly hit the woodwork though.
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i've gone back to basic now as i find advanced pretty poor. i'm not quite good enough to have manual shooting on all the time although I am practicing.

I was kinda hoping that advanced shooting would be more like a semi-assisted that they had in FIFA. something that would provide more error as a kinda step up towards manual where getting shots on target would be rewarding. but unfortunately i simply don't understand the concept of advanced shooting at all.
 
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robbieryan said:
i've gone back to basic now as i find advanced pretty poor. i'm not quite good enough to have manual shooting on all the time although I am practicing.

I was kinda hoping that advanced shooting would be more like a semi-assisted that they had in FIFA. something that would provide more error as a kinda step up towards manual where getting shots on target would be rewarding. but unfortunately i simply don't understand the concept of advanced shooting at all.
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Yeah. It's been made to use the shoot button for power and directions for aiming manually anywhere on target. So if you go full bar it would be a powerful shot but it'll still be mostly on target. Maybe that's why you see the woodwork a lot.

I like the concept behind it as it's a more manual approach yet keeping it on target but I don't feel it's been perfected yet. Or maybe we're just crap at it. Much prefer manual to it.
 
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I'm waiting to try the game once I'm back from work but here and WE forums seem to be really down on the game. Is it really that bad compared to the demo?
 
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I know criticism comes with every new PES but is there a particularly bad smell around this release of the full game? I'm a little surprised at just how many negative responses there are on here and around other PES sites.
 
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Lami said:
Completely agree with these.

Add to them also that sometimes I pass the ball in space for a specific player but instead the game decides to pick a further one. Annoying. This is breaking my passing rhythm.

CPU shouldn't be accurate with their passing. There should be more error than this.

Defenders not properly zone marking at times in addition to not holding their lines properly when playing a high line causes lots of successful through balls. I don't mind the through balls as irl teams will do whatever to exploit any teams defenses. My issue is with my defense's AI like these 2 I mentioned already.

Game needs to be more responsive when shooting. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're successful, but at least execute the command instantly even if I press shoot at the wrong time resulting in a failed shooting attempt; don't mind this at all.

Great game but really needs these fixes.
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Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

I've been saying for a while now this game will be at it's best after a few patches clear up all the balance issues. Lots of issues, not for the lack of trying, it's that everything is all new and Konami haven't had long enough to access the balance of the game.

What needs to be done:

Optimization:

The biggest issue is the responsiveness and the game's handling and processing of commands. For me it's loading too much information, many of it not necessary, this is where all the problems are coming from especially on top player and superstar. Professional not so much and it's the best and hardest level to play on.

I seen on a few goals. Defenders just essentially lag in their response to an situation. the programming is there, it's just not being executed. This could explain the defensive AI issues, in PES 2013 if a player made a run in behind a defender would watching him for a bit, then change his mind a second later and hold the line playing him offside. In PES 2014, the response to come back into shape takes far too long and he ends up destroying the Defensive line.

Same all round with keepers not coming off their line enough and ending up in awkward positions here and there, Shooting not executing when you press it, fouls not being given, this is summed up with Goal Kicks being laggy, the same is loading things it don't need to and it's hurting the general responsiveness.

Replays have to be sorted out, they are too slow, again game loading things it doesn't need to. Disable the cloth for players far away, tone down the detail at a distance.

This is the main problem, sort this out and we will all have serious fun with this game. It's got so many good aspects to it, even with these issues I still enjoying what is there. Tactics work very well and show themselves very nicely, making playing vs the CPU still enjoyable and there is plenty to get to know in this game. The individuality has surprisingly to me gone up, players feel even more different than before.

Konami need to bite the bullet and understand that the PS4 is the way to go to handle so much graphical detail. The consoles we have can't take it and even on the PC optimization needs a lot of work because supercomputers still suffer with responsiveness issues.
 
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reinelt97 said:
I know criticism comes with every new PES but is there a particularly bad smell around this release of the full game? I'm a little surprised at just how many negative responses there are on here and around other PES sites.
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Every year this happens:

better game: demo 1 > demo 2 > final game > patch 1 > patch 2 > etc
 
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geeeeee said:
I just got an email from Tesco's "Your Tesco direct order is on it's way"

PES is coming yes, with my Weetabix! :BOP:
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Got this from Tesco's this morning :BOP: Quicker than amazon last year :))



But i'm busy this weekend :BRICK:

PS sorry i didn't realise how big that picture would be :P
 
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I'm generally more forgiving with all games. Fortunately I'm not the type to get too psyched out about every little niggle in the game. I mean even some people's game breakers could look like forgivable niggles for me. I just play games to have some fun. I don't mind if there's scripting or even if there's some kind of AI 'cheating'. As long as the game is competitive and fun, I'm okay.

Most of the negative stuff being spoken about the game are things that would disappear in a few weeks. How? In a few weeks, people would have understand how to play the game and also discovered the game to a great extent. By my count there are only few real glitches gameplay-wise (for instance, if chipping a keeper is too successful than in real life).

For all the praises that PES 5 is getting even now in 2013, if you were to go back the PES 5 forum, you'd realise how many people were annoyed and unhappy with the game and how many glitches, game breakers and holes they found then. But 8 years later, PES 5 (WE9 was better) is being considered as the best football game ever.

I think the same is happening to PES 2014. For all the negativity around PES 2014 now, we will learn to play the game and Konami will also continue to improve the game with patches and this would be a milestone in Konami's football series like PES 5 was.
 
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klashman69 said:
I seen on a few goals. Defenders just essentially lag in their response to an situation. the programming is there, it's just not being executed. This could explain the defensive AI issues, in PES 2013 if a player made a run in behind a defender would watching him for a bit, then change his mind a second later and hold the line playing him offside. In PES 2014, the response to come back into shape takes far too long and he ends up destroying the Defensive line.
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I was trying to explain this earlier but yeah agree. the defender just seems permanently caught in two minds as to whether to track the run or to keep hold of the defensive line. This results in the defender half heartedly following the run of the attacker to keep him onside yet not attempting to close him down in any way. then as the attacker starts to receive the ball, the defender finally jumps into action but it's too late. This is why we saw the 'catch-up' bug previously. it was compensating for the lack of response to the original action, now we are left with a defender that has the defensive ability of a vegetable
 
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geeeeee said:
Got this from Tesco's this morning :BOP: Quicker than amazon last year :))



But i'm busy this weekend :BRICK:

PS sorry i didn't realise how big that picture would be :P
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Bloody hell, can't believe Weetabix comes in a 48 pack now:SHOCK:
 
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@klashman
Biggest problem - we can't count on Konami fixing those issues.
 
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geeeeee said:
Got this from Tesco's this morning :BOP: Quicker than amazon last year :))

But i'm busy this weekend :BRICK:

PS sorry i didn't realise how big that picture would be :P
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Buy TESCO Biscuits and recieve for free a PS3 Copy of PES 2014. :SMUG:

Konami forget to add a option to edit the "back" how we gonna to make kits like this?

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And why 100 free slots of logos? We need 22 to edit the game 100%.

This is important for people who want to make your own PES 2014 without using any patches.

Bugs? zero. Only need to fix a few playing moves ingame, and add Vsnc, because this is a little slow. Cause slow motions.

Update - Don´t waste time report problems on officialpes on facebook and twitter, they never listen to us.
The solution is talk with Kei Masuda personally :((

:COP: - Is in the KONAMI's apartment outside, for a reason.
No one can speak with him without a permission?
 
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TheTud said:
@klashman
Biggest problem - we can't count on Konami fixing those issues.
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I think we can, These issues do not surprise me one bit, I expected them actually.

brand new game 'recreated' from scratch. So many need untried functions, there are bound to be bugs. Konami have simply not had enough time to play the game over months and months smoothly to refine things. The game was finished and shipped in August. It's seems as if they knew full well it would take time for it all to come together.

This seems a scaling down problem, this was originally intended for the PS4, it's obvious since this is the game adam was talking so much about last year and speaking a little about even back in 2011.

I said this many times. We will have to wait until patch 1.02 or 1.03 for the real PES 2014 to show. I said this first back in July. I think Konami expected the PS4 to had been release in 2012 rather than late this year and decided to scale down this game for the PS4 as the PS4 would not had been worth it. The future is very, very bright.

The Fox Engine is designed to cope with the demands and specifications of the PS4 primarily, it can handle the PS3, it's just about getting things working.

Did you expected this game to be perfect? That was never going to happen.

Barca_Fan13 said:
What difficulty are you playing on klashman69?
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Professional seems best. Top Player and Superstar have more responsiveness issues than it.
 
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Some serious shit's going on..Played my first online game and it was a lot slower than exhibition in a good way..It was even slower than demo or at least equal to it..I'm not trolling..
 
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