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klashman69 said:
Interestingly something I noticed in PES 20113 there where lots of new faces such as Falcao, Giroud, Welbeck, Oxlade-Chamberlin, Pirlo etc.. which looked as if they where PES 2014 ready, they where made to fit PES 2014 but where scaled down to meet PES 2013 very limited graphics system.
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I doubt they will reuse faces from PES 2013. Look at the Bayern faces in the released material, they created everything from scratch there.

I would love to see progress in generic faces. Look at this paper, the authors are able to construct 3d models and textures out of a single reference image using Machine Learning techniques:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~efros/courses/AP06/Papers/Blanz-siggraph-99.pdf
 
I have received an E-Mail from amazon.de concerning my preorder. It says that they could tell me the deliverydate for my PES preorder. It's the 19th of september. Amazon.de was also right last year with this kind of email and it seems realistic because last year PES have been released five days before south america (24.09). 24-5=19. I'm pretty sure that this will be the release date for europe.
 
Found this on WinningElevenBlog:


"Hello guys - I had a bit of a restless night worrying over what has been happening with the development of PES 2014. However, I then woke up this morning feeling a lot better because I was hit with an eureka moment of some logic & facts over where we all stand with PES 2014. I thought I would share this with you all here on WENB to try to help everyone else feel better :-) ...

1. FACT - The code that was reviewed by Suffwan & Asim was the WINDSOR code and NOT the most recent code of PES 2014. What that means is that at present the best code or version of PES 2014 has yet to be previewed and therefore it is logical to assume that the LATEST code is several weeks worth of development ahead of the Windsor one.

2. LOGIC- If Konami themselves really did have worries or concerns over PES 2014, then they would delay the proposed September release of the game in order to buy themselves more time to complete development. Such a decision (if it were to happen) is certainly not unheard of within the video games industry.

3. LOGIC- Whatever the latest code may be at present, and assuming that the game's official release is still to go ahead as planned for September 24th approx, that still leaves a decent chunk of time for Konami to work on the game and furthermore, some solid options remaining to turn to. For example, they could hire extra emergency programmers or pay their current team extra money to increase their working hours around the clock in order to make sure that the game will be brought up to speed.

4. HISTORICAL EVIDENCE - My point is that Konami have always released a game that is on THEIR terms and to their own effort and satisfaction, and not pandering to the concerns of outsiders. After all, it is their game, their product and they know they have strategic options regarding how they are going to complete this final phase of PES 2014's development.

5. LOGIC - If Konami continue to stick to their normal schedule of working hours, size of team and planned release date, then that shows a message to me that they are confident (or arrogant) enough in their upcoming product.

6. Realizing this is something that (at least by logic and by fact) makes me feel better and for those of you who are still worried, you just have to accept the way Konami operate and hope for the best. We have no power of negotiation over this matter except the option of refusing to buy the game. Well, regardless of what happens between now and September, I'm still going to buy the game and I can only LOGICALLY assume that at the very least, out of sheer curiosity alone, most of you guys will too.

Chins up lads :-) ... and always look on the bright side of life!"
 
Xav1 said:
Found this on WinningElevenBlog:


"Hello guys - I had a bit of a restless night worrying over what has been happening with the development of PES 2014. However, I then woke up this morning feeling a lot better because I was hit with an eureka moment of some logic & facts over where we all stand with PES 2014. I thought I would share this with you all here on WENB to try to help everyone else feel better :-) ...

1. FACT - The code that was reviewed by Suffwan & Asim was the WINDSOR code and NOT the most recent code of PES 2014. What that means is that at present the best code or version of PES 2014 has yet to be previewed and therefore it is logical to assume that the LATEST code is several weeks worth of development ahead of the Windsor one.

2. LOGIC- If Konami themselves really did have worries or concerns over PES 2014, then they would delay the proposed September release of the game in order to buy themselves more time to complete development. Such a decision (if it were to happen) is certainly not unheard of within the video games industry.

3. LOGIC- Whatever the latest code may be at present, and assuming that the game's official release is still to go ahead as planned for September 24th approx, that still leaves a decent chunk of time for Konami to work on the game and furthermore, some solid options remaining to turn to. For example, they could hire extra emergency programmers or pay their current team extra money to increase their working hours around the clock in order to make sure that the game will be brought up to speed.

4. HISTORICAL EVIDENCE - My point is that Konami have always released a game that is on THEIR terms and to their own effort and satisfaction, and not pandering to the concerns of outsiders. After all, it is their game, their product and they know they have strategic options regarding how they are going to complete this final phase of PES 2014's development.

5. LOGIC - If Konami continue to stick to their normal schedule of working hours, size of team and planned release date, then that shows a message to me that they are confident (or arrogant) enough in their upcoming product.

6. Realizing this is something that (at least by logic and by fact) makes me feel better and for those of you who are still worried, you just have to accept the way Konami operate and hope for the best. We have no power of negotiation over this matter except the option of refusing to buy the game. Well, regardless of what happens between now and September, I'm still going to buy the game and I can only LOGICALLY assume that at the very least, out of sheer curiosity alone, most of you guys will too.

Chins up lads :-) ... and always look on the bright side of life!"
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Is that from the forums or the blog? Can't find it on the discussion thread... Because although the overall attitude on the forums is, for the most part, the "everything's gonna turn out alright" kind, that post does not really represent the quality of the discussion on their boards.

That post reminds me of Fox News.
 
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wow, this is just mouth watering
 
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zeemeister said:
wept.

I love the lack of videos and general cards close to the chest approach from Konami. The less we know the better.

I wish I could just skip the Demo but pretty sure it aint gonna happen.

WhO is with me here?
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not me, i just don't get it. From a business perspective if i am behind in sales with a similar product and have something "special" to share then I would share as much as I could..I would be releasing Alphas and Betas and gathering as much feedback as I could and then tweaking. At the moment its the complete opposite and there is pretty much no real info as far as gameplay videos/demo etc and dare to ask Adam on twittter, the supposed voice of Konami, and he bites your head off..total shambles as far as I am concerned.
 
Dude no offence but have you ever 'gotten' KONAMI.

In all the years you have always disliked them or not agreed with what they do. Question begs what you do here but expect the pes since PS2 days blah blah blah speech.

If memory serves Jon was pissed with all the idea stealing by EA so maybe they decided to keep mum.
 
I have a question for you guys, if I purchase this game via stream, will there be pbs when it comes to editing it and patching (when eventually our great modders will find all there is about it) ? Does PES 2013 via stream present any difficulty in terms of patching ? I don't know but I thought someone mentioned like that earlier in this gigantic thread.
I might have imagined everything so not sure of anything.
 
kouroux said:
I have a question for you guys, if I purchase this game via stream, will there be pbs when it comes to editing it and patching (when eventually our great modders will find all there is about it) ? Does PES 2013 via stream present any difficulty in terms of patching ? I don't know but I thought someone mentioned like that earlier in this gigantic thread.
I might have imagined everything so not sure of anything.
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The game won't be using Steamworks, so there will be no difference between a hard copy and the digital one from Steam, don't worry.
 
Xav1 said:
Found this on WinningElevenBlog:


"Hello guys - I had a bit of a restless night worrying over what has been happening with the development of PES 2014. However, I then woke up this morning feeling a lot better because I was hit with an eureka moment of some logic & facts over where we all stand with PES 2014. I thought I would share this with you all here on WENB to try to help everyone else feel better :-) ...

1. FACT - The code that was reviewed by Suffwan & Asim was the WINDSOR code and NOT the most recent code of PES 2014. What that means is that at present the best code or version of PES 2014 has yet to be previewed and therefore it is logical to assume that the LATEST code is several weeks worth of development ahead of the Windsor one.

2. LOGIC- If Konami themselves really did have worries or concerns over PES 2014, then they would delay the proposed September release of the game in order to buy themselves more time to complete development. Such a decision (if it were to happen) is certainly not unheard of within the video games industry.

3. LOGIC- Whatever the latest code may be at present, and assuming that the game's official release is still to go ahead as planned for September 24th approx, that still leaves a decent chunk of time for Konami to work on the game and furthermore, some solid options remaining to turn to. For example, they could hire extra emergency programmers or pay their current team extra money to increase their working hours around the clock in order to make sure that the game will be brought up to speed.

4. HISTORICAL EVIDENCE - My point is that Konami have always released a game that is on THEIR terms and to their own effort and satisfaction, and not pandering to the concerns of outsiders. After all, it is their game, their product and they know they have strategic options regarding how they are going to complete this final phase of PES 2014's development.

5. LOGIC - If Konami continue to stick to their normal schedule of working hours, size of team and planned release date, then that shows a message to me that they are confident (or arrogant) enough in their upcoming product.

6. Realizing this is something that (at least by logic and by fact) makes me feel better and for those of you who are still worried, you just have to accept the way Konami operate and hope for the best. We have no power of negotiation over this matter except the option of refusing to buy the game. Well, regardless of what happens between now and September, I'm still going to buy the game and I can only LOGICALLY assume that at the very least, out of sheer curiosity alone, most of you guys will too.

Chins up lads :-) ... and always look on the bright side of life!"
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Who wrote this utter drivel? I'm genuinely interested to know.

Is that place a fan site or the Pravda?
 
That post is simply too much
why should we chin up, it's a videogame. A game.

"Look at the bright side of life" :LOL:

Some forums really like their drama. Thank god evo web is not at that level, not everytime. Asim's impressions was the best drama moment, even here.
 
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No matter what you say fellas just always keep the respect between forums.
 
hitmanuk said:
not me, i just don't get it. From a business perspective if i am behind in sales with a similar product and have something "special" to share then I would share as much as I could..I would be releasing Alphas and Betas and gathering as much feedback as I could and then tweaking. At the moment its the complete opposite and there is pretty much no real info as far as gameplay videos/demo etc and dare to ask Adam on twittter, the supposed voice of Konami, and he bites your head off..total shambles as far as I am concerned.
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C'mon now. The guy has been answering every single tweet he's come across, even going out of his way and answering out of office hours. I don't know what you'd do if you were in his shoes. He might get frustrated at times which is normal, especially when answering repeated questions a 1000 times, let alone trolls, haters, etc.

Please go ahead and ask him whatever you want. Don't bring it here.

This goes to everyone, do not drag your hate of a certain forum or person to this forum. Any posts of the sort will be deleted.

I'd prefer you keep this place respectable reflected by it's respectable members.

Thank you.
 
Lami said:
C'mon now. The guy has been answering every single tweet he's come across, even going out of his way and answering out of office hours. I don't know what you'd do if you were in his shoes. He might get frustrated at times which is normal, especially when answering repeated questions a 1000 times, let alone trolls, haters, etc.

Please go ahead and ask him whatever you want. Don't bring it here.

This goes to everyone, do not drag your hate of a certain forum or person to this forum. Any posts of the sort will be deleted.

I'd prefer you keep this place respectable reflected by it's respectable members.

Thank you.
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I wasnt being disrespectful to anyone, i have seen Adam first hand on twitter biting peoples heads off including mine. I also dont hate anyone or anything including Konami or Adam.

I still stand by Konamis poor decision to hold info back when they are chasing FIFA for sales although I realize there is not much I or anyone can do about it.

Im not going into the argument of Adam being frustrated reg tweets, is it not his job? I get frustrated in my job where i get constant emails, messenger messages and phone calls all day everyday but its what I am paid to deliver (unless he's doing it for free then i take it back)
 
hitmanuk said:
I wasnt being disrespectful to anyone, i have seen Adam first hand on twitter biting peoples heads off including mine. I also dont hate anyone or anything including Konami or Adam.

I still stand by Konamis poor decision to hold info back when they are chasing FIFA for sales although I realize there is not much I or anyone can do about it.

Im not going into the argument of Adam being frustrated reg tweets, is it not his job? I get frustrated in my job where i get constant emails, messenger messages and phone calls all day everyday but its what I am paid to deliver (unless he's doing it for free then i take it back)
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i dont see anything wrong in talking about konami and their strategy related to pes. also adam's tweets get posted here every other day so why shouldnt we talk about him/his actions in regards to the game (i've also had my head chewed by him on twitter for asking completely reasonable questions)
 
info0 said:
Pretty much, own PS2 and original Silent Hill, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid series on it.


Those games definitely take advantage of d-pad being analog (responding to 255 levels of pressure).

There is also Wikipedia (though I don't trust it much these days).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad

Yes, football games do not take advantage of this. Sadly, programmers don't want to put effort.

See what I meant when I said devs are lazy and don't know what they are programming for :LOL:.
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thanks. thats good to know. but i'm still sticking with my stance on the matter as i dont believe it is a lazy programmar problem but that a pressure sensitive d-pad cannot come close to replicating the analogue stick in regards to a football game, and is therefore still holding games back (not to mention only having 8 directions, of course)

also, i'm curious, you say the d-pad has 255 levels of sensitivity, but the quote you posted (metal gear, walk and run) only makes use of 2 variations of speed -- does any game make use of more than 2 variations? how does it work in gran turismo?
 
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201 pages of madness. Waiting for a miracle and reaching the horizon. Every year the same thing. This week scientist have managed to simulate 1 second of human brain activity using one of the best supercomputer of the world "K Computer" (more than 82,000 processors, 1.73 billion virtual nerve cells connected by 10.4 trillion synapses). What kind of simulation do you want to get from KONAMI? Yes, it will be. It will be the best. But it will be only the computer toy. Don't worry, be quiet ;)
 
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