In ideal world, what you described would be be the semi-assisted or semi-manual setting.Manual would imply that stats play a lesser role if nothing at all in the execution of passes and shots.
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In ideal world, what you described would be be the semi-assisted or semi-manual setting.Manual would imply that stats play a lesser role if nothing at all in the execution of passes and shots.
in an ideal world that would be the lowest setting, because true 'manual' is totally dumb and shouldnt be included at all. imagine if every pass travelled at the same speed regardless of body position/first touch/interia, it'd be ridiculous
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You can call it out respectfully. No need to go down on anyone.
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Nice turn of phrase there, Lami.
spektarm
Premier League
- 6 October 2006
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ss4_goku
Premier League
I'll be honest, I like manual pass as sometimes in the old PES, i want a ball passed to a certain player, but the computer mis-interprets that pass and gives it to someone else because they were close to each other.
But at the same time, it gets me thinking, when a pass that i want now (manual settings) doesn't land where i wanted it to...is it my fault, or is it the computers now? Before you can just blame the pc for making that wrong pass, now it might be actual people who just plain suck.
With that said, I understand there is a level of unfairness when there are both d-pad and 360 degree together in a game, but while some of you are arguing how it will lead to unbalance and problems, you do not see where Konami stated two years ago (correct me if i'm wrong), that PES should no longer be played with a d-pad. They will still have it, but it will lose out on a lot of the features and what the player can do. In other words, the game is now specifically programmed for the analog stick and if the player still chooses the d-pad, he'd lose out on the features.
So in conclusion, i think its great that Konami has both in the game for people to choose from, but don't feel that because d-pad is still there, it'd take anything away from the analog stick or the 360 degree controls. The limit is on the d-pad
But at the same time, it gets me thinking, when a pass that i want now (manual settings) doesn't land where i wanted it to...is it my fault, or is it the computers now? Before you can just blame the pc for making that wrong pass, now it might be actual people who just plain suck.
With that said, I understand there is a level of unfairness when there are both d-pad and 360 degree together in a game, but while some of you are arguing how it will lead to unbalance and problems, you do not see where Konami stated two years ago (correct me if i'm wrong), that PES should no longer be played with a d-pad. They will still have it, but it will lose out on a lot of the features and what the player can do. In other words, the game is now specifically programmed for the analog stick and if the player still chooses the d-pad, he'd lose out on the features.
So in conclusion, i think its great that Konami has both in the game for people to choose from, but don't feel that because d-pad is still there, it'd take anything away from the analog stick or the 360 degree controls. The limit is on the d-pad
if the game shouldnt be played with a dpad then they shouldnt have the option to play the game with the d-pad.
it's a balancing issue. d-pad limits some things but gains in others, namely unrealistic sharp turns because you can only move 8 directions (obviously we dont know how it is in practice, but its still going to be different and therefore unbalancing).
and also, im still at a loss for how d-pad works with PA settings. all these previews say "4bar passing is soooo free!"... but now someone can just use a dpad and remove all that free-ness? it's just another severe balancing issue
maze32
Facemaker
the demo will be released on August 27
In the demo version is expected teams like Bayern, Santos, AC Milan and Ajax, and the teams from Italy, Germany, Japan and England. There will also be represented by a pair of stages: Allianz Arena, Juventus Arena, Vila Belmiro and Prince Abdullah al-Faisal Stadium. In the demo version, as we already know will be available only friendly matches.
sorry for my bad english
In the demo version is expected teams like Bayern, Santos, AC Milan and Ajax, and the teams from Italy, Germany, Japan and England. There will also be represented by a pair of stages: Allianz Arena, Juventus Arena, Vila Belmiro and Prince Abdullah al-Faisal Stadium. In the demo version, as we already know will be available only friendly matches.
sorry for my bad english
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
china is the home of football, i wrote an essay about this
Nik
ARHS na goustaris!
source?
ss4_goku
Premier League
haha, FIFA does state that China is the place that invented Football and England as the place that invented modern football.
now back to the d-pad discussion, They still have it in because some players still use it, and they want to keep it in just for those to play, that's it. Just like having more teams cause some people enjoy them more than others.
As for the balancing issues, I don't quite understand it either cause I'm no programmer, but I don't use d-pad, so I don't really have to care about how it works. haha, I'm sorry, I'd rather focus on other things I care about like goalkeepers, shooting, etc. If those are balanced with ball/player physics, then that's fine with me.
now back to the d-pad discussion, They still have it in because some players still use it, and they want to keep it in just for those to play, that's it. Just like having more teams cause some people enjoy them more than others.
As for the balancing issues, I don't quite understand it either cause I'm no programmer, but I don't use d-pad, so I don't really have to care about how it works. haha, I'm sorry, I'd rather focus on other things I care about like goalkeepers, shooting, etc. If those are balanced with ball/player physics, then that's fine with me.
henrys hand
Premier League
- 2 September 2010
I'll skip it, don't want to play 5 minute-friendly-matches with unfinished code. Between the demo and the final game it's probably just a month... it will be four-five long weeks though
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maze32
Facemaker
i dont use it either. i only care because ill have to play these people online
Nik
ARHS na goustaris!
maze32
Facemaker
just look to the right in the news ... and it's not a reliable source
http://pesnews.net/konami-pes-2014.85be75a326266f145ae99683b3a758eb.htm
http://pesnews.net/konami-pes-2014.85be75a326266f145ae99683b3a758eb.htm
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Nik
ARHS na goustaris!
RockyJJP
FIFA fan, PES lover
That sounds like a dodgy source for demo info. I hope it's wrong, another 21 days till the demo and after gamescon. What rubbish
like i mentioned, how likely is it that it takes ms and sony 4 weeks to approve a demo? doesnt sound accurate to me
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nesa24
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approval of games (any) take's 5-10 days tops
game devs are allways hiding behind approval process
but its very short
yes, that time time frame sounds more accurate to me.
so with that in mind i think its fair to expect the demo on the 13th/14th/15th (tues, weds, or thurs.... i forget which days sony and ms update)
there cannot be any waiting around for a specific date by konami because Adam Bhatti tweeted: "out of our hands now"..... which means they are solely waiting on sony and ms to approve
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
i think demo comes after gamescom (like last year?)
hope earlier
I think demo 1 for PS3 came out about 25 July last year and Gamescom wasn't until the middle of August, so it's been done before
21 Aug seems most logical to me though this year.
info0
Banned
Not a fact. Dualshock 2 and Dualshock 3 have analog d-pad. Learn some facts (but yes still in 8 directions
).Not a fact. Dualshock 2 and Dualshock 3 have analog d-pad. Learn some facts (but yes still in 8 directions
any thing to back this up? i would be very interested to read about this, because i dont think have ever encountered a game which took use an analogue d-pad, and i'd be very curious to see how well it would work in practice (which i highly doubt it would for a football game)
zeemeister
foxy engine
for once I disagree with Lami. There's plenty of reason to go down on someone
NikoLiberty4
Premier League
The problem with D-Pad, at least in current PES games, is that favours Speed Merchant abusers. It's so much easier to pull those abrupt turns with only 8 directions. I had lots of online nightmares with Pato, Mphela and Barreto...
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