PES 2013 Discussion Thread

Ameppe said:
It's only available in Community mode or using the widget to create a 2vs2 match
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So I still can't actually set up a 2 v 2 match like previous years in match lobbies to play other online players? Man that is fucking lame, thanks for the heads up, gonna get rid of my copy now, done with it and the series
 
Does anyone know what the 'aesthetic improvements' Konami promised with patch 1.3 actually are? Has anyone who's tried the patch noticed any aesthetic differences?
 
so far i've noticed that (as Majuh & ElvisSs mentioned), the keepers have been tweaked for good.
i have a savefile which is the UCL final (me, Bayern vs R Madrid) which i have played several times before every patch to try to notice differences. i played it after the patch and the keepers are really great! probably it is some placebo effect but, somehow i've noticed some changes in the was the AI builds thier play. they are more prone to make mistakes both attacking & defending and they DID create chances in a more 'human' way. I have to admit they still try to punish you with long balls anyway.
i also feel that the player ID has been tweaked a bit more, now is really even more noticeable whenever robben, schweinsteiger, ribery, gomez or some other player carries the ball.

i've seen the new celebrations, there are a total of 4 new.. including one for the infamous gangnam style.
there are also new boots, actually there are just one new color for every boot that was in the game previoiusly.

PS. obviously the update screwed my edited mexican league, but oh well i guess i can put it together again
 
majuh said:
The pass support setting doesn't make the AI better or worse. You are also able to pull off 40 yard laser guided through balls without pass support.
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It does. That's the second problem with pass support.

It makes the defending AI considerably more unresponsive when trying to block an assisted pass. Through balls find a way through despite having to pass through 2 defenders. Konami needed to make sure that the pass supported ball gets through by whatever means possible IMO.

This is part of the reason you can make impossible passes 10 times as often as a zero supported player.
 
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asperas said:
new boots and new celebrations..:D!
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Aren't they adding those via the data pack though? I'd heard data pack 3 was also out today. I was secretly hoping for some tiny updates in graphics or something.

After the whole data pack 2 fiasco with putting people in incorrect positions, I ain't going near data pack 3. I have my team rosters just the ways like them already.
 
Yes they have just found out that all we can do is INVITE FRIENDS to 2v2.

what goes on in Konami mind?? Madness.

Good job I love the game in single player so not too upset but very frustrated with them..
 
theCRO said:
It does. That's the second problem with pass support.

It makes the defending AI considerably more unresponsive when trying to block an assisted pass. Through balls find a way through despite having to pass through 2 defenders. Konami needed to make sure that the pass supported ball gets through by whatever means possible IMO.

This is part of the reason you can make impossible passes 10 times as often as a zero supported player.
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Well, where is your proof? I can't notice any difference in AI movement when playing with 4 bars pass support or 0 bars. Usually I'm playing with 2 bars pass support.
 
Just tried it the latest patch.

They have lowered the response of the players. Not by their stats, but in the code.

The result is that players turn slower and intercept less passes reacting quicker. This makes the game feel slower and it is easier to defend

I prefer 1.00 and have went back to it. I played barca v Madrid last night on 1.00 a few times and had entertaining games. On 1.03 they were less entertaining and you didn't feel like the opposition would score on superstar.

Deleted 1.03 and within the first 15 minutes conceded a goal in a better paced game
 
I can't see any evidence of Konami correcting the form in ML like they claimed, unless you need to start a new one for the changes to take effect, which they haven't said. First game in the Champions League and my entire back four are on purple arrows :((

Gameplay-wise, there is a tiny change but it's very subtle. I agree that response times of players have been lowered, there seems to be far less reliance on superstar on the COM spamming through balls which is a good thing, but apart from that I can't really see any difference. I think it's the best version of the game yet, for sure, but that's like saying it's the shiniest turd I'm the manure pile. I generally enjoy the gameplay, but they just can't get anything right off the pitch whatsoever.
 
theCRO said:
It does. That's the second problem with pass support.

It makes the defending AI considerably more unresponsive when trying to block an assisted pass. Through balls find a way through despite having to pass through 2 defenders. Konami needed to make sure that the pass supported ball gets through by whatever means possible IMO.

This is part of the reason you can make impossible passes 10 times as often as a zero supported player.
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I've played both assisted and unassisted in mlo. Through balls were prominent in both settings, but, quite frankly ridiculous with pass support.
Every game has that killer through ball at some point, sometimes three or four. It has got to the point where I know exactly when it's going to happen, but my centre backs can't cope and the speed merchant striker/winger runs clean through one on one, goal.
There is absolutely nothing you can do.
Another good mode with various possibilities ruined. In modern football there are killer passes that split defences in half, but not on this level.
2013 promised so much, then gave into the online spammers. Not good.
 
majuh said:
Well, where is your proof? I can't notice any difference in AI movement when playing with 4 bars pass support or 0 bars. Usually I'm playing with 2 bars pass support.
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Play 100 games online with Zero pass support against pass supported players. If you win more than 20 games you're a God!
 
Benni said:
Yes they have just found out that all we can do is INVITE FRIENDS to 2v2.

what goes on in Konami mind?? Madness.

Good job I love the game in single player so not too upset but very frustrated with them..
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If you want to play a real 2vs2 or 4vd4 you have to play in community mode. Lobby or quick match 2vs2 doesn't seem to be there
 
Ameppe said:
If you want to play a real 2vs2 or 4vd4 you have to play in community mode. Lobby or quick match 2vs2 doesn't seem to be there
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Yeah... but that doesnt allow Cursor Switching unless you choose multiplayer free match which doesnt make it proper 2v2....:RANT:
 
Jamezinho said:
I think I'll just quit this game for good. These gameplay patches are beyond a joke, each one changing the experience.
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This is why I've gone back to PES 6 with Shollym's latest patch. Sure, PES 2013 is superior in a lot of ways (certainly not everything), but as always, PES 6 just feels right.

I gave up on FIFA 13 in terms of offline play, and I continue to have a bi-polar relationship with PES 2013. Just like every other "modern" PES game. I'll go from, "This is game is absolute shite!" to, "This is football." It does a lot of things well, but the experience just isn't consistent enough for it to be my go to football game. I mean, PES 6 has better keeper animations than PES 2013. How is that possible?
 
Agreed.

Pes 6 have better running animations

Pes 6 have better keepers animations :SHOCK:

Pes 6 have better player contorols

Pes 6 have better shooting

Pes 6 have better feeling

Thats all. How it's possible? I don't know....
 
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