PES 2013 Discussion Thread

[sgmullins]

Do you think is worthy giving back my copy of PES 2013 and get a new one of FIFA 13? Really? I´m in a mess. What if I don´t like the whole FIFA 13 game?

You will like it, for about an hour. Then you will realise your mistake.

 

[Matt1234]

like that u enjoy the game against the cpu!

but didtnt you/anyone noticed what i did...?? see here: http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2590522&postcount=9807

Strange not for me played it till 2am in the morning with a mate the other day and no lag(not sure why there would be if playing on same console?)

What version have you got?

 

[Tim7]

You will like it, for about an hour. Then you will realise your mistake.

So true!

 

[juliovodoo]

You will like it, for about an hour. Then you will realise your mistake.

GEAT MATE!!! That´s what I think. When you play FIFA 13 for the first time you say "woooooooooooooooowww" it´s way better then PES "=!· FOR SURE!!!! And you are right, FIFA 13 is a lot better then PES 2013.... for an hour... or may be a whole day, then you get bored. When you play PES 2013 for the first time you say "bbbfffffff" the same game another year.... but that´s the mistake. The chalenge PES 2013 offers is amazing and FIFA 13 has nothing to do with that.

I haven´t chaged the game, I still continue with my PES 2013 and my special edition with steel box of champions league.

 

[radha1]

What difficulty do you play on?

Usually on top player. Possession stats are more equal and the CPU buildup is more varied. Unfortunately, out of ten games I might win 2 draw 4 lose 4. The CPU strikers are stone cold killers.

I really enjoy professional, especially if my side is only average rated. Possession rates are slightly skewed, and the CPU plays a bit more route 1, but it does allow me time to explore all the facets of the game, including precise dribbling, various shot techniques, etc.

Still, I say mainly top player, despite the losses, in order to get the better CPU buildup. I also think 20 minute games are the preferred experience, though I find 15 minute games very good as well.

 

[bassman]

GEAT MATE!!! That´s what I think. When you play FIFA 13 for the first time you say "woooooooooooooooowww" it´s way better then PES "=!· FOR SURE!!!! And you are right, FIFA 13 is a lot better then PES 2013.... for an hour... or may be a whole day, then you get bored. When you play PES 2013 for the first time you say "bbbfffffff" the same game another year.... but that´s the mistake. The chalenge PES 2013 offers is amazing and FIFA 13 has nothing to do with that.

I haven´t chaged the game, I still continue with my PES 2013 and my special edition with steel box of champions league.

I have just been on the EA fifa forum to see what people are saying about the game, I have bought the last 2 fifa`s just didn`t like pes after pes 6 xbox 360, Again fifa didn`t do much for me though PES 2013 gameplay is a welcome return to form such a shame about what they took out & messed up but after going on EA`S fifa forum sounds like they have released a totally broken messed up game loads of I want a refund comments, Just glad I have finally got a footy game to play it`s mint with daymos`s OF on the xbox be even better when he release`s version 2 this weekend

 

[Lami]

Top Player, 15 min games

Usually on top player. Possession stats are more equal and the CPU buildup is more varied. Unfortunately, out of ten games I might win 2 draw 4 lose 4. The CPU strikers are stone cold killers.

I really enjoy professional, especially if my side is only average rated. Possession rates are slightly skewed, and the CPU plays a bit more route 1, but it does allow me time to explore all the facets of the game, including precise dribbling, various shot techniques, etc.

Still, I say mainly top player, despite the losses, in order to get the better CPU buildup. I also think 20 minute games are the preferred experience, though I find 15 minute games very good as well.

Yep. Top player and Superstar indeed eliminates the CPU's constant through ball/hoof game. What I don't like about these difficulties though is that CPU become far less human, as in you can hardly wrong foot them Professional seems the better one for that but I have to condone the CPU's through ball/hoof game. It's like they drastically upped the difficulty between professional and top player. They should've made top player a tad harder, as in keeping them human but play a good passing game without much of the through ball/hoofing, and left the crazy hard one for Superstar. Or fix professional and make the CPU AI pass like top player/superstar and leave them human as is, and keep all the through ball/hoofing for the lower difficulties. They're there for a reason.

 

[Rantboy]

Finally got my copy today and got lots of playing time.
My first contact with the game was good. My first shot was a 32 meter screamer with Deco, which led me to wonder why do people complain about shots! There was not even much space between him and the ball and I tried to pull a knuckle shot (but I saw on replay it wasn't). Still, very powerful and well hit in the right corner.

Other than that... I'm quite disappointed with this game. Most of us were hoping for a mix between Demos 1 and 2. But what I got from it was a mix between Demo 2 and PES 2012! And God, I hate that game!

CPU seems able to "switch" it anytime they want, being almost unstoppable on individual skills and dribbling.

I think what went wrong with the series since 2012 is this contain/hold up system whereas you hold X (or R2 + X). This made the defensive aspect of the game on rails, whereas it seems easier to defend - but to break out from this, the CPU opponent got overpowered dribbling capabilities. This is my main issue with single player and seems to be here on PES 2013 with full force. The only difference is that we have the double tap of X, which goes a long way on some occasions.

I was having some fun while playing friendlies with Brazilian clubs. Player ID with Ronaldinho is outstanding and I created nice moves playing as Atlético Mineiro and Fluminense.

But then I moved on to UEFA Champions League exhibition mode, and CPU went full on cheating mode! I really don't know if it's because I entered as a CL match.. if I simply chose a normal Exhibition match non-related to the CL, maybe I wouldn't get that amount of cheating?

But here's what happened: I'm as Barcelona and the CPU is Juventus. Pirlo is the Messiah, he's The One. In the first match, he came dribbling past 3 guys and marching inside the box and scoring in the top corner.
At some other point I played a delicious through ball to Alexis Sanchez to hit the CPU on the break. He feels really fast (as he should) and I'm closing in on their box, but wait... who's that catching up effortlessly? Marchisio? Usain Bolt? No, it's PIRLO! The 34-year-old veteran seems to have it in his legs to chase down one of the fastest men in football. BTW, it was the 2nd Half!!!
I'm not kidding, there's some SERIOUS stat boosting going on in this game.
Not only that, but good old cheating is there, for sure. I sensed also some spell where the CPU was pressing me for a goal and things kept going their way and I didn't get a sniff of the ball until they scored. They had some 2 or 3 consecutive corners.

When people say they feel PES 2012 crawling back and creeping in, I totally know what you mean!

Aside from that, I decided to look around on features, game modes (and lack of) and edit mode changes. Well, stadium editing is the same as PES 2011 and 2012. Master League cut scenes are EXACTLY the same as 2012! Only difference is the female secretary. But everything else is exactly the same, even subtitle texts!
That's when it hit me: I'm playing an upgrade version of PES 2012 minus a game mode. A very important one, BTW.

I can't help but feel cheated (again). I can't think of other things that were added except for boots, bananas, stopwatches and dumbbells. We should be paying £10 for these half-arsed updates, FFS!

I'd love to play the Brazilian league, but in order to do so I have to go for a Master League. So I did, just to get acquainted with it. After much of that useless waffle that comes in ML, I'm playing pre-season friendlies. And it's Coritiba vs..... Anderlecht! And then I have Olympiakos and Zenit next. Very credible... Way to go to make us feel immersed, Konami!

Then looking at League structures, we have PES and WE League as the Brazilian's "neighbour" leagues. We could maybe replace those with Argentine and Chilean leagues, by editing the hell out of the game. Even so, if we create Boca Juniors and others on PES League, there will be another one (the original ones) in the Copa Libertadores. Which is a fine mess, if you ask me.

So Konami releases a ML in South America which is virtually unplayable for people who want the minimum realism. Not even a good OF could salvage this mode in this case.

So there you have it. You have all Brazilian teams licensed. But you can't play a Brazilian league on its own. Instead, go play a ML with fictitious teams in PES and WE League, playing friendlies against European clubs, cause hey, that's what mid table teams in Brazil do. NOT.

A quick look on National Teams showed that horrendous Brazil green kit. And guess what: Argentina is unlicensed now. Good Lord, is this game going backwards!

I'd probably still be playing PES 2011 if they still had support and updates for that (which they should). As for this copy, I'll probably give it another chance, after which I'll probably sell it. Gameplay was promising, and maybe this is great for multiplayer action. But I'm more of a single player ML guy. And this has been ruined for me.

That will be the end of my rant for now. I'd just like to express how underwhelmed I am with this game.

 

[<3_Pato_<3]

this is how the real cover of pes 2013 should be! hahaaa!!

 

[NikoLiberty4]

Finally got my copy today and got lots of playing time.
My first contact with the game was good. My first shot was a 32 meter screamer with Deco, which led me to wonder why do people complain about shots! There was not even much space between him and the ball and I tried to pull a knuckle shot (but I saw on replay it wasn't). Still, very powerful and well hit in the right corner.

Other than that... I'm quite disappointed with this game. Most of us were hoping for a mix between Demos 1 and 2. But what I got from it was a mix between Demo 2 and PES 2012! And God, I hate that game!

CPU seems able to "switch" it anytime they want, being almost unstoppable on individual skills and dribbling.

I think what went wrong with the series since 2012 is this contain/hold up system whereas you hold X (or R2 + X). This made the defensive aspect of the game on rails, whereas it seems easier to defend - but to break out from this, the CPU opponent got overpowered dribbling capabilities. This is my main issue with single player and seems to be here on PES 2013 with full force. The only difference is that we have the double tap of X, which goes a long way on some occasions.

I was having some fun while playing friendlies with Brazilian clubs. Player ID with Ronaldinho is outstanding and I created nice moves playing as Atlético Mineiro and Fluminense.

But then I moved on to UEFA Champions League exhibition mode, and CPU went full on cheating mode! I really don't know if it's because I entered as a CL match.. if I simply chose a normal Exhibition match non-related to the CL, maybe I wouldn't get that amount of cheating?

But here's what happened: I'm as Barcelona and the CPU is Juventus. Pirlo is the Messiah, he's The One. In the first match, he came dribbling past 3 guys and marching inside the box and scoring in the top corner.
At some other point I played a delicious through ball to Alexis Sanchez to hit the CPU on the break. He feels really fast (as he should) and I'm closing in on their box, but wait... who's that catching up effortlessly? Marchisio? Usain Bolt? No, it's PIRLO! The 34-year-old veteran seems to have it in his legs to chase down one of the fastest men in football. BTW, it was the 2nd Half!!!
I'm not kidding, there's some SERIOUS stat boosting going on in this game.
Not only that, but good old cheating is there, for sure. I sensed also some spell where the CPU was pressing me for a goal and things kept going their way and I didn't get a sniff of the ball until they scored. They had some 2 or 3 consecutive corners.

When people say they feel PES 2012 crawling back and creeping in, I totally know what you mean!

Aside from that, I decided to look around on features, game modes (and lack of) and edit mode changes. Well, stadium editing is the same as PES 2011 and 2012. Master League cut scenes are EXACTLY the same as 2012! Only difference is the female secretary. But everything else is exactly the same, even subtitle texts!
That's when it hit me: I'm playing an upgrade version of PES 2012 minus a game mode. A very important one, BTW.

I can't help but feel cheated (again). I can't think of other things that were added except for boots, bananas, stopwatches and dumbbells. We should be paying £10 for these half-arsed updates, FFS!

I'd love to play the Brazilian league, but in order to do so I have to go for a Master League. So I did, just to get acquainted with it. After much of that useless waffle that comes in ML, I'm playing pre-season friendlies. And it's Coritiba vs..... Anderlecht! And then I have Olympiakos and Zenit next. Very credible... Way to go to make us feel immersed, Konami!

Then looking at League structures, we have PES and WE League as the Brazilian's "neighbour" leagues. We could maybe replace those with Argentine and Chilean leagues, by editing the hell out of the game. Even so, if we create Boca Juniors and others on PES League, there will be another one (the original ones) in the Copa Libertadores. Which is a fine mess, if you ask me.

So Konami releases a ML in South America which is virtually unplayable for people who want the minimum realism. Not even a good OF could salvage this mode in this case.

So there you have it. You have all Brazilian teams licensed. But you can't play a Brazilian league on its own. Instead, go play a ML with fictitious teams in PES and WE League, playing friendlies against European clubs, cause hey, that's what mid table teams in Brazil do. NOT.

A quick look on National Teams showed that horrendous Brazil green kit. And guess what: Argentina is unlicensed now. Good Lord, is this game going backwards!

I'd probably still be playing PES 2011 if they still had support and updates for that (which they should). As for this copy, I'll probably give it another chance, after which I'll probably sell it. Gameplay was promising, and maybe this is great for multiplayer action. But I'm more of a single player ML guy. And this has been ruined for me.

That will be the end of my rant for now. I'd just like to express how underwhelmed I am with this game.

+1
Gameplay can't be the only good reason to make a succesful product. The lack of modes is a strong handicap. It's a shame, because this gameplay is one of the best representations of real football ever seen on a videogame.

 

[PRO_TOO]

Strange not for me played it till 2am in the morning with a mate the other day and no lag(not sure why there would be if playing on same console?)

What version have you got?

i got the ps3 uk version!

this is freaking me out... a lot of people are happy with the final version! but im not (vs com us pretty awesone)! human matches, 1vs1 are terrible! so much more lag! didnt anyone notice!?

again, feelin like the only one..

 

[Lami]

For now, it's Professional, 1/2 pass assistance, +1 speed for me as 0 feels a bit on the floaty side. Will keep these settings till I get the hang of it. Having mighty fun on this though. Also difficulty just a tad up because speed was increased to +1. More of a challenge now than 0, but not as hectic as +2.

 

[Autogolazo]

You will like it, for about an hour. Then you will realise your mistake.

It's a mistake I keep on making

 

[PRO_TOO]

For now, it's Professional, 1/2 pass assistance, +1 speed for me as 0 feels a bit on the floaty side. Will keep these settings till I get the hang of it. Having mighty fun on this though. Also difficulty just a tad up because speed was increased to +1. More of a challenge now than 0, but not as hectic as +2.

so u are increasing the challange by setting up speed... istn that the wrong way!? us forced to adjust the speed to plus 1 to get the joy out of it!? that seems wrong to me! speed is pace of the game, not something that makes u forget (sometimes) terrible animations! its the natural pace! get used to it!
everything higher than speed setting to -1 is not real soccer... its console-soccer! good enough for some of u, but not for me!!!

konami should get the basics right and speed should be a special something for a special player...

im so looking forward to 2013... konami studios in london: dont u fuq up the game! make it better!! im so looking forward to it...

 

[MUFan23]

Speed +1 seems like the right pace. Off the ball movements are awesome, btw.

 

[PRO_TOO]

For now, it's Professional, 1/2 pass assistance, +1 speed for me as 0 feels a bit on the floaty side. Will keep these settings till I get the hang of it. Having mighty fun on this though. Also difficulty just a tad up because speed was increased to +1. More of a challenge now than 0, but not as hectic as +2.

lami, havent u tried speed minus 1!? its so much more realistic!

i have everything set up manual! manual shot i disabled cause i want to get used to the whole passes gameplay. when i do nail those short passes (fully manual) ill switch to manual shooting again! its just a matter of time/patience!

theres nothing but a fully manual game!!
i dont want the cpu decide what to do and when! it should all be about input (forget about rails; they are still in there, and anoying!!)!!!

 

[united]

I agree with most that the game is brutal, but you just know there is a reward waiting around the corner for those that are perssistant and hone their skills. I look forward to mastering professional and moving towards top player. I keep posession better now on full manual and defend much more consistsntly. My shooting is still average and i hate how they block too many attempts.

People are way too quick to give up on this game. Im not saying its perfect or that its instantly won me over, but i can see a diamond in the rough there somewhere.

I w wondering though how is everyone approaching the option files for this? Is there a good one i should know about? This is my first pes on next gen consoles and i have learnt about of's now and can see how it works, i downloaded v2 of wenb which was really promising but unfortunately its been crashing when i make a sub and therefore ive deleted it, kills the mood. There is alot of potential under the bonnet of this game, would like to max it out with a good OF to go along with my custom songs and promising offline gameplay. Mlo had my interest too never having played it, would like to try online aswell down the line.

15min games sounds interesting too, mite be worth giving it a shot seeing the positive reviews here.

 

[PRO_TOO]

Speed +1 seems like the right pace. Off the ball movements are awesome, btw.

have u ever watched a real match!? plus 1 means super speedy soccer... thats not real! its just arcade like!!

i know, everyone got is favour... but plus 1 isnt soccer in any way! its just pacy arcade gaming...

im so confident that im saying: prove me wrong!

 

[MUFan23]

But as someone else said, 0 is floaty some times. Btw, since I'm on PC, I'm using a few gameplay patches.

 

[Lami]

so u are increasing the challange by setting up speed... istn that the wrong way!? us forced to adjust the speed to plus 1 to get the joy out of it!? that seems wrong to me! speed is pace of the game, not something that makes u forget (sometimes) terrible animations! its the natural pace! get used to it!
everything higher than speed setting to -1 is not real soccer... its console-soccer! good enough for some of u, but not for me!!!

konami should get the basics right and speed should be a special something for a special player...

im so looking forward to 2013... konami studios in london: dont u fuq up the game! make it better!! im so looking forward to it...

lami, havent u tried speed minus 1!? its so much more realistic!

i have everything set up manual! manual shot i disabled cause i want to get used to the whole passes gameplay. when i do nail those short passes (fully manual) ill switch to manual shooting again! its just a matter of time/patience!

theres nothing but a fully manual game!!
i dont want the cpu decide what to do and when! it should all be about input (forget about rails; they are still in there, and anoying!!)!!!

I don't know about you, but been on 0 since I got it and I can't help but feel it's a bit floaty. On 2011 and 2012 I always played on -1, but this time it's +1 for me. Feels more the part for me.

And when I said on +1 the difficulty was upped a tad, I meant because of the slight increase in speed obviously I have less time to think. On 0 I always felt I have more time. That's all.

Oh and I'm on 360, if that matters.

 

[Interista]

Where is the shop where you buy classic players using GP? They removed that aswell?

 

[MUFan23]

@Interista : It's now present only in ML.

 

[Issidingo]

I now played over 100 games on line. mostly full manual.

Even on manual the game is a fast, arcadish run and driblle and sliding tackle game.

What have they done to skiding tackle, they brought back the superpowerful supereasy sliding tackle. No physicality at all.

To me it feels like an advanced version of pes6, the game where the serie started going bananas and becaming a pick and score game for kids.

Missing the good old pes3-5 days. The game is gonna end up in ebay later on today.

 

[MUFan23]

@Issidingo : Fast, arcade? My opinion is far away from that. Try using some gameplay patches and reduce the speed to -2. How about now?

 

[Interista]

@Interista : It's now present only in ML.

You mean you can buy the classic players through ML ?

 

[Issidingo]

@Issidingo : Fast, arcade? My opinion is far away from that. Try using some gameplay patches and reduce the speed to -2. How about now?

talking about on line even on full manual.

Off line AI is too boring.

 

[Lami]

C'mon Charlie, we knew this was coming

Btw, regarding default ML player names, we can now edit their names to our liking in edit mode. I'll be changing theirs according to their nationalities, obviously. You can only edit their names, face, hairstyle, physique, accessories, and motion. Good enough for me No more kuchkilakhmen!

 

[robik]

For pc players, in editing forum they have found a way to disable boot stats for ml and bal..tried it and its working

 

[fd1972uk]

Enjoying it, but not sure if the first time for god know's how many years that I might go down to Professional to start.

Top Player is just a tad too difficult now, not good for dribbling, their strikers are absolute lethal and the Konami Cup is just a joke, I've been to the semi-finals about 5 or 6 times and been totally destroyed, it's like something clicks in the game and it just ain't gonna happen. During one game I swear the computer knocked a ball of it's own man and it went for a throw-in...........to them. From the resulting throw-in they threw the ball in and the guy headed it over the bar, the commentator even commented how he just couldn't get enough on it. Conclusion, a corner? And straight from the corner ball went in I tried pressing the button to clear, guy did nothing it bounced off my guy, hit my other defender and straight to their guy who knocked it in.

Hmmmmmm, dodgy.


FD

 

[zeemeister]

C'mon Charlie, we knew this was coming

Btw, regarding default ML player names, we can now edit their names to our liking in edit mode. I'll be changing theirs according to their nationalities, obviously. You can only edit their names, face, hairstyle, physique, accessories, and motion. Good enough for me No more kuchkilakhmen!

Cool but I could make a team of 6+ footers then.