PES 2013 Discussion Thread
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gerd
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I would like to see that too. But i think it's extremely different to do in a convincing way. Because there's more to it than just defending against Barcelona. Against a team of similar strength that same team (Granada) would have to go for a win...
And if Granada play Barcelona after 10 consecutive wins, they should be in the zone and play with more self belief, whereas after 10 consecutive defeats they should be all shambles...That is the way it is in a football league.
I don't know nothing about programming and making games, but it seems to me that is impossible to do at the moment.
What should be possible, is the fact that form arrows should be more consistent. One week a player scores a hattrick, the next week he should have ared arrow up...that never happens.
In PES2012 i played a league (not a ML, a league) with my daughter. We played with her beloved Chelsea and Didier Drogba had a purple arrow down for 75% of the season...this didn't stop him from becoming top scorer. What is the use of these form arrows?
I would like to see that too. But i think it's extremely different to do in a convincing way. Because there's more to it than just defending against Barcelona. Against a team of similar strength that same team (Granada) would have to go for a win...
And if Granada play Barcelona after 10 consecutive wins, they should be in the zone and play with more self belief, whereas after 10 consecutive defeats they should be all shambles...That is the way it is in a football league.
I don't know nothing about programming and making games, but it seems to me that is impossible to do at the moment.
What should be possible, is the fact that form arrows should be more consistent. One week a player scores a hattrick, the next week he should have ared arrow up...that never happens.
In PES2012 i played a league (not a ML, a league) with my daughter. We played with her beloved Chelsea and Didier Drogba had a purple arrow down for 75% of the season...this didn't stop him from becoming top scorer. What is the use of these form arrows?
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The coach thing doesn't help really, because i've seen it with 3 different teams. Top teams no less.
I would think differently if i play as a weak team (away) vs strong team, but that's not the case at all. If we use a top team the colors should be at least green or have a story behind why a player isn't 'fit' to play. Make use of those cutscenes and all that good drama then right?!
Now the CPU might have a couple of bad players too, but not too that extent. If you notice.. in away games even with good colors, the games are already influenced by lets say 'cheating'. So that's more than enough i think.. bad colors have no business being there.
First game away vs Barcelona, whole team is dead.. It's not the other way around. Just maybe Xavi and Pique blue and Tello (a sub no less) purple. That's really bollocks
The coach thing doesn't help really, because i've seen it with 3 different teams. Top teams no less.
I would think differently if i play as a weak team (away) vs strong team, but that's not the case at all. If we use a top team the colors should be at least green or have a story behind why a player isn't 'fit' to play. Make use of those cutscenes and all that good drama then right?!
Now the CPU might have a couple of bad players too, but not too that extent. If you notice.. in away games even with good colors, the games are already influenced by lets say 'cheating'. So that's more than enough i think.. bad colors have no business being there.
First game away vs Barcelona, whole team is dead.. It's not the other way around. Just maybe Xavi and Pique blue and Tello (a sub no less) purple. That's really bollocks
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Only in away games? Odd.
Btw i didn't play PES 2012.
Only in away games? Odd.
Btw i didn't play PES 2012.
curdstar
Premier League
- 19 September 2006
- PES4 Partick Thistle
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That is the double touch move I was talking about. It is not on R2 but performed by flicking RS to players left or right then flicking LS in direction player is facing/moving.
That is the double touch move I was talking about. It is not on R2 but performed by flicking RS to players left or right then flicking LS in direction player is facing/moving.
ccshopland
Premier League
- 4 January 2011
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On a side note guys, is anyone else loving the music this year lol, so fking catchy.........'I'm on top of the world aye'.....
On a side note guys, is anyone else loving the music this year lol, so fking catchy.........'I'm on top of the world aye'.....
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Ah, no. Away games were like that too in 2012, but not ALL blue and purple though, as there were some green. But yea I guess that's their way of giving home teams the edge.
Ah, no. Away games were like that too in 2012, but not ALL blue and purple though, as there were some green. But yea I guess that's their way of giving home teams the edge.
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Ah,, that explains.. they changed everything when it concerns gameplay but forgot the rest
Yeah of course i still got some colors.. But i was playing with my friend on PC and PS3 and we was like wtf is this?!
Quite the letdown though for us but nevermind :/
Thanks
Ah,, that explains.. they changed everything when it concerns gameplay but forgot the rest
Yeah of course i still got some colors.. But i was playing with my friend on PC and PS3 and we was like wtf is this?!
Quite the letdown though for us but nevermind :/
Thanks
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Ya
I'm really in love with this one.. keep humming this all day
YouTube - Savoir Adore - "Dreamers" - Official Music Video
Ya
I'm really in love with this one.. keep humming this all day
YouTube - Savoir Adore - "Dreamers" - Official Music Video
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Starting to feel this a bit now, had an excellent couple of CL exhibition matches this morning. There's a few things niggling away at me (AI possession, attacking methods) but the good is beginning to outweigh the bad perhaps.
Starting to feel this a bit now, had an excellent couple of CL exhibition matches this morning. There's a few things niggling away at me (AI possession, attacking methods) but the good is beginning to outweigh the bad perhaps.
Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
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Yup, it's a brilliant move. I tried it with a lumbering left back and he kind of barged his way through with the first touch then his second just hammered the ball away to an opponent. I tried the same thing with Aimar just inside his own half and he wriggled past two players in a way that really reminded me of Gazza back in his glory days. Aimar pulled that off, the crowd suddenly for excited and a break away was suddenly on. It was fantastic.
Yup, it's a brilliant move. I tried it with a lumbering left back and he kind of barged his way through with the first touch then his second just hammered the ball away to an opponent. I tried the same thing with Aimar just inside his own half and he wriggled past two players in a way that really reminded me of Gazza back in his glory days. Aimar pulled that off, the crowd suddenly for excited and a break away was suddenly on. It was fantastic.
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Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
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I gave it a go Jimmy on zero assistance and while it's taking a bit of time to adjust I completely agree, it's amazing. There are many factors that I'm noticing that zero assistance affects, not just in passing accuracy. I'm now a convert
I've been trying some games with Juventus, and my last one against Bologna was a joy. It finished 0-0, but thanks to the passing it improved the game no end. I was on Top Player, zero assists.
First thing I noticed is that it actively slows the game down, the ball doesn't ping to much. Secondly, the CPU seems to almost counter balance your controls and it felt more error prone too. Both teams finished with a far lower pass completion rate than before.
Using some pretty good Juve players, those with average passing seem to require pinpoint accuracy so I was giving the ball away a lot at first. I found myself actively trying to get Pirlo on the ball, as he feels so much better than everyone else on zero assist. Using a player of his ability did mean that his passes required less attention on my part, which to me is fantastic. He should have better accuracy. I could just hammer the ball across the pitch and his passing would be fast and accurate, even playing the ball perfectly into someone's path to run onto. Perform the same thing with someone else and it would have gone flying into touch.
The last thing I noticed was that by having to judge the power bar so much more, any over hit pass, even by a fraction, has a heavy effect on player control. By over hitting a short pass, it made even an 80 rated attacking full back take a first touch like it was bouncing off a brick wall. Love it.
The amount of errors in the games I've been playing from both teams has meant that my games have been tight midfield battles with fouls galore. Thanks to me being on a higher difficulty with no assists, for the first time ever in a PES game I'm largely second best and playing on the counter attack.
I sound like a resident Konami spokesperson at the moment but I'm just enjoying this so much. It's the best PES ever, by a long long way .
I gave it a go Jimmy on zero assistance and while it's taking a bit of time to adjust I completely agree, it's amazing. There are many factors that I'm noticing that zero assistance affects, not just in passing accuracy. I'm now a convert
I've been trying some games with Juventus, and my last one against Bologna was a joy. It finished 0-0, but thanks to the passing it improved the game no end. I was on Top Player, zero assists.
First thing I noticed is that it actively slows the game down, the ball doesn't ping to much. Secondly, the CPU seems to almost counter balance your controls and it felt more error prone too. Both teams finished with a far lower pass completion rate than before.
Using some pretty good Juve players, those with average passing seem to require pinpoint accuracy so I was giving the ball away a lot at first. I found myself actively trying to get Pirlo on the ball, as he feels so much better than everyone else on zero assist. Using a player of his ability did mean that his passes required less attention on my part, which to me is fantastic. He should have better accuracy. I could just hammer the ball across the pitch and his passing would be fast and accurate, even playing the ball perfectly into someone's path to run onto. Perform the same thing with someone else and it would have gone flying into touch.
The last thing I noticed was that by having to judge the power bar so much more, any over hit pass, even by a fraction, has a heavy effect on player control. By over hitting a short pass, it made even an 80 rated attacking full back take a first touch like it was bouncing off a brick wall. Love it.
The amount of errors in the games I've been playing from both teams has meant that my games have been tight midfield battles with fouls galore. Thanks to me being on a higher difficulty with no assists, for the first time ever in a PES game I'm largely second best and playing on the counter attack.
I sound like a resident Konami spokesperson at the moment but I'm just enjoying this so much. It's the best PES ever, by a long long way .
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nerf
Forming triangles
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YouTube - Regat Croqueta: Laudrup o Iniesta?
YouTube - Regat Croqueta: Laudrup o Iniesta?
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Issidingo
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What piss me off is that i have been giving konami feedbacks for years and then i don't see some minimun features required for a ps3 game.
CAMERAS: ffs customizable camera, the actual cameras all sucks.
PITCH TEXTURES: it is horrible. And am i mistaken or there is only 1 pitch texture and pattern for all stadia? With decent pitch texture and colour game would feel immensively better visually
THINGS MISSING: what happened to afternoon games? League Modes? Shop?
And is the lobby only for non ranked game?
Gameplay wise is a good effort, but in the long term the lack of customization and diversity kills the enjoyment.
What piss me off is that i have been giving konami feedbacks for years and then i don't see some minimun features required for a ps3 game.
CAMERAS: ffs customizable camera, the actual cameras all sucks.
PITCH TEXTURES: it is horrible. And am i mistaken or there is only 1 pitch texture and pattern for all stadia? With decent pitch texture and colour game would feel immensively better visually
THINGS MISSING: what happened to afternoon games? League Modes? Shop?
And is the lobby only for non ranked game?
Gameplay wise is a good effort, but in the long term the lack of customization and diversity kills the enjoyment.
info0
Banned
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Shop is in Master League now... Actually, they made things unlockable in game (like Nicknames and such
).
Pitch patterns and textures can use a bit of work, but they are way better than they were in 2011 and 2012 default game. Plus blur is not as annoying as it used to be. It's toned down, so now replays DO LOOK like REAL thing (not over blurred).
Lack of League Mode is indeed bad, but DLC may add it back. Pretty much like Community mode in October DLC.
Fingers crossed. I can say clearly it's the best PES of this generation.
Shop is in Master League now... Actually, they made things unlockable in game (like Nicknames and such
).Pitch patterns and textures can use a bit of work, but they are way better than they were in 2011 and 2012 default game. Plus blur is not as annoying as it used to be. It's toned down, so now replays DO LOOK like REAL thing (not over blurred).
Lack of League Mode is indeed bad, but DLC may add it back. Pretty much like Community mode in October DLC.
Fingers crossed. I can say clearly it's the best PES of this generation.
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Made it into the cl final with Chelsea on professional group stage/ top player knockout, had some seriously lucky games, especially my last game against inter they were all over me. Had no right to get to this stage tbh something smells fishy!
Will see how I get on against barca
Made it into the cl final with Chelsea on professional group stage/ top player knockout, had some seriously lucky games, especially my last game against inter they were all over me. Had no right to get to this stage tbh something smells fishy!
Will see how I get on against barca
info0
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I must say I do enjoy Master League this year, no nagging, no players whining about anything. Just you and games ahead of you.
The only thing I dislike are black boots and AI randomly putting them on players.
I must say I do enjoy Master League this year, no nagging, no players whining about anything. Just you and games ahead of you.
The only thing I dislike are black boots and AI randomly putting them on players.
Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
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Haha spot on, theyve nailed the move perfectly. I presume this is a new feature because I've never even it before.
Here's the move again, this time with Maicon bombing down the right (pre-transfer of course). Try this with someone like Walter Samuel and see how poor his is at doing it, but players with high technique....perfect.
YouTube - PES 2013
Haha spot on, theyve nailed the move perfectly. I presume this is a new feature because I've never even it before.
Here's the move again, this time with Maicon bombing down the right (pre-transfer of course). Try this with someone like Walter Samuel and see how poor his is at doing it, but players with high technique....perfect.
YouTube - PES 2013
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Issidingo
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Lack of any decent camera is killing the game for me, just like in pes 2012.
I am really puzzled about how such an imporant feature like customizable camera is missing. If nba2k didn't have the 2k camera i'd probably never play the game.
I don't know what's the use of that John Murphy folk. He probably knew league mode were missing, he is aware of the camera issue. he does nothing. If i don't see league more or new camera in the october patch then i'll be selling my copy.
Lack of any decent camera is killing the game for me, just like in pes 2012.
I am really puzzled about how such an imporant feature like customizable camera is missing. If nba2k didn't have the 2k camera i'd probably never play the game.
I don't know what's the use of that John Murphy folk. He probably knew league mode were missing, he is aware of the camera issue. he does nothing. If i don't see league more or new camera in the october patch then i'll be selling my copy.
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Sounds good. You started with defaults if so what are like they like? Gonna start one later
Sounds good. You started with defaults if so what are like they like? Gonna start one later
Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
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I really want to use broadcast camera but it's just not feasible thanks to the game switching angles when you're out wide. I usually play on wide, which is fine, but love playing on broadcast. It flows even better on this year's version on this cam, but the feature that makes the camera change to a close up view when you're by either touch line renders it unusable. Such a shame.
I finally met my match, however, playing on broadcast, top player, zero assistance. Tried playing as Lyon v Santos. Got utterly, utterly battered, but in a good way. Previous PES games would see the CPU soak up crazy amounts of pressure then hit you with perfect pin point attacks that seemed like the game was just dicking you over.
This time, I got so hammered I could barely retain the ball. The game finished 0-4, with me having just two shots on goal, andq the CPU having twelve shots in goal. It should have finished 7-0. The CPU also finished having had far more of the ball. I just couldn't live with it. I'm guessing it's partly due to playing on broadcast, I'm awful using that camera, but still it shows a huge step forwards in terms of the AI. It kept the ball, passing backwards, sideways, picking me apart over and over.
I also discovered the joys of crossing. You can put the ball wherever you want in this version, and I love holding R2 while crossing. It produces an entirely different, high, looping cross you can put in. It's especially useful from deep, when you've loaded players into the box and want to cause a bit of a bundle in the penalty area.
I really want to use broadcast camera but it's just not feasible thanks to the game switching angles when you're out wide. I usually play on wide, which is fine, but love playing on broadcast. It flows even better on this year's version on this cam, but the feature that makes the camera change to a close up view when you're by either touch line renders it unusable. Such a shame.
I finally met my match, however, playing on broadcast, top player, zero assistance. Tried playing as Lyon v Santos. Got utterly, utterly battered, but in a good way. Previous PES games would see the CPU soak up crazy amounts of pressure then hit you with perfect pin point attacks that seemed like the game was just dicking you over.
This time, I got so hammered I could barely retain the ball. The game finished 0-4, with me having just two shots on goal, andq the CPU having twelve shots in goal. It should have finished 7-0. The CPU also finished having had far more of the ball. I just couldn't live with it. I'm guessing it's partly due to playing on broadcast, I'm awful using that camera, but still it shows a huge step forwards in terms of the AI. It kept the ball, passing backwards, sideways, picking me apart over and over.
I also discovered the joys of crossing. You can put the ball wherever you want in this version, and I love holding R2 while crossing. It produces an entirely different, high, looping cross you can put in. It's especially useful from deep, when you've loaded players into the box and want to cause a bit of a bundle in the penalty area.
info0
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Started with club lineups to see how it goes
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Real Madrid is a joyous bunch to play as haha.
Started with club lineups to see how it goes
.Real Madrid is a joyous bunch to play as haha
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Pc -2 speed on pc. My mate played with me va CPU in ML with Rennes. Shooting does seem weak....other then that I thought it was brilliant. My mate thinks they switched the a button with the y. I tried to tell him it takes awhile to get used too, the new full manual. A with zero assistance is waaaaaaaaaay different then 2012. We started off with two wins the got drunk and lost concentration and got whipped three games in a row. Playing with a mate is much harder the in years past. Shooting seemed hard and very weak...
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Cheater! Just kidding, nothing quite like the feeling taking a team with a bunch of crappy nobodys and turning them into european champions though
Started with club lineups to see how it goes
Real Madrid is a joyous bunch to play as haha
Cheater! Just kidding, nothing quite like the feeling taking a team with a bunch of crappy nobodys and turning them into european champions though
BluesyShrimper
Conference
- 31 August 2012
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I have not experimented with linking feints, so I'll give this a go and do the training some more. Thanks for the tip.
I have not experimented with linking feints, so I'll give this a go and do the training some more. Thanks for the tip.
DarthKebab
Fully Assisted Noob
- 11 May 2008
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The players have a form stat you know.
The players have a form stat you know.
sincover
Championship
- 16 August 2010
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The Form stat determines the colour and frequency of the player's form arrow. i.e. Players with high forms have red/orange arrows more often than players with low form and vice versa.
The Form stat determines the colour and frequency of the player's form arrow. i.e. Players with high forms have red/orange arrows more often than players with low form and vice versa.
BluesyShrimper
Conference
- 31 August 2012
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I thought that was condition? as in fitness. I didn't think there was any signifier of form on matchday itself, it just a number from 1-8 in player stats and the higher it is the more consistent they are. Although it's definitely true that the arrows play out the same way as form, which is why it's a shame that it's so inconsistent in ML.
I thought that was condition? as in fitness. I didn't think there was any signifier of form on matchday itself, it just a number from 1-8 in player stats and the higher it is the more consistent they are. Although it's definitely true that the arrows play out the same way as form, which is why it's a shame that it's so inconsistent in ML.
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PES 2013 needs to be played on +1,+2 speed?
Last night I done an expereimetn I played PES2 on ps2..then I treid pes 2013 demo on ps3.
The most appraent thing was that PES 2013 was about 1/3 the pace of pes2,,the speed of runing was like walking and the passes and shots were totally sluggish and floaty.
I then bumped up to +2 speed and it was like pes2 speed...the game was more fun..but maybe to fast.
I put to +1 and it was better than 0 speed but still kinda sluggish compared to PES2.
But I read a lot of guys playing at -1.
Thing is I never felt pes 2013 was slow or sluggish until I done head to head comparison with the ps2 game.
After playing ps2 pes and actually enjoying it pes 2013 at 0 speed was pretty boring.
PES 2013 needs to be played on +1,+2 speed?
Last night I done an expereimetn I played PES2 on ps2..then I treid pes 2013 demo on ps3.
The most appraent thing was that PES 2013 was about 1/3 the pace of pes2,,the speed of runing was like walking and the passes and shots were totally sluggish and floaty.
I then bumped up to +2 speed and it was like pes2 speed...the game was more fun..but maybe to fast.
I put to +1 and it was better than 0 speed but still kinda sluggish compared to PES2.
But I read a lot of guys playing at -1.
Thing is I never felt pes 2013 was slow or sluggish until I done head to head comparison with the ps2 game.
After playing ps2 pes and actually enjoying it pes 2013 at 0 speed was pretty boring.