PES 2013 Discussion Thread

[Ad75]

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I actually felt exactly the same way until about 45mins ago.

Finally, FINALLY feel as though I have cracked dribbling to some degree. Beginning to notice that even just a feather of R2 as you approach then bursting in just about any direction with sprint results in you wrong footing or simply boosting past opposition players. All dependant on the player in possession of course.

I was guilty before of holding R2 a little too long until the deft touch animations initiated before bursting with sprint or changing direction but you don't need the animations to start to reap the benefits if that makes any sense.

Now on to mastering the feel of dynamic first touch which if I am being honest I have struggled with since the demo's. Can you have the left stick pushed in a direction when you look to press R2 at the right time? I know I am doing it sometimes as there is a rather satisfying burst when the player traps perfectly but just curious as to some of the finer points as the training challenge mode is completely useless for educating one on the nuances of control.

I think the problem with dribbling is the setup is awkward. You hold r2, you can use the right stick and im sure you can hold l2 too and use the right stick.

It could do with being simpler.

 

[dannyfc2]

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Been having a bit more 'fun' combined with realism on Superstar, two bar. May even crank it to one bar. I feel zero assist against a slightly unbalanced CPU was become a little tiresome and needing a little too much concentration v enjoyment. Back to enjoying the game more, even though I feel like I'm cheating a bit lol.

Yeah, same mate. Zero assist is rewarding when it comes off, but I can't help but feel sometimes it makes easy passes a lot harder then what they should be. Really struggling to thread through that final ball, realistic but can be hugely frustrating. Getting an abundance of 0-0s so I may need to increase to 15 min games.

I bumped it up to 1 bar for a couple games, but I then found making openings too 'cheap' and less worked for. I'm in limbo. Think I'll stick with unassisted for a little longer, see if I progress.

 

[Honome]

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That's the thing, I'm living in the UK now. My mates already bought the UK version but I'm holding on for the US version to have Silvio Luis cracking me up with his priceless commentaries

Oh, and I wonder how the non-official stores in Brazil got hold of the American BLUS version before it was even released!

Well, they got it, don´t ask me how! Have the game since yesterday an i have to say it´s way better on the PS3 than on PC. Playing with brasilian teams is brilliant on Profissional, 15 minutes and 0 assist pass.

 

[Rantboy]

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What gets on my nuts about PES 2013 is the removal of things they should keep (especially as it's so easy to keep) and the introduction of more bullshit (eg. boots).

But when it comes down to in-game realism and gameplay I still think PES is miles ahead of FIFA. Today I was watching some fellas at Gamerbase in HMV playing FIFA 13. It's so fucking arcadey it's not even funny. It's almost like a Neo Geo game with modern graphics engine

Exaggerations aside, it really looked awful the way the ball was bouncing off players, the passes looked so artificial! Ball control also looked very dodgy.

PES 2013 has huge potential and plays quite nicely and it's fun to play (judging from demos). It's really down to Konami to get their slice of the market back, but I don't know if they're interested. When they treat all the other aspects of the game like they do, I think they're happy to go through the motions and just collect profits.

 

[dejavu76]

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No, you need to stop patrolling all the PES forums and trying to supress any criticism of the game. You do this every year from what I understand -- defend PES like it's your baby and like it's the second coming. It's hawkish people like you that have contributed to holding PES back from achieving it's full potential this generation.

Couldn't agree more, this wenb patrolling is awful.. My god what stress.. Staying away from wenb forum seems not enough to avoid Adam & co.

Anyway, final version is actually different for me, ball physics overall for my tastes is a lot worse. I felt the ball alive in demo1 as never before in current gen whereas in final ver is clearly more floaty.
I'd like to see a patch to fix the ball physic.

 

[Rantboy]

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Well, they got it, don´t ask me how! Have the game since yesterday an i have to say it´s way better on the PS3 than on PC. Playing with brasilian teams is brilliant on Profissional, 15 minutes and 0 assist pass.

Sounds good man! Did they work on the commentaries or is it the same old thing as '11 and '12?

Also, does the CPU still do the "X-Ray" dribbles through our defenders, like in PES 2012?
I was happy with defending on Demo 1, but this invincible dribbling AI was creeping back on Demo 2...

Brasileirão must be great to play! Did you start a ML?

 

[Matty_17]

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Non gamer or not, she made an observation, and a good one. I didnt have anything to say in its defence.

my point is you tried to stress that her being a non-gamer somehow made her observation more valid- because it doesnt, because non-gamers have no idea what the standards are in games

 

[Honome]

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Sounds good man! Did they work on the commentaries or is it the same old thing as '11 and '12?

Also, does the CPU still do the "X-Ray" dribbles through our defenders, like in PES 2012?
I was happy with defending on Demo 1, but this invincible dribbling AI was creeping back on Demo 2...

Brasileirão must be great to play! Did you start a ML?

I hate the commentaries so i turn it off always, didn´t even tried. Also the music of the game is total shit, had to turn it off also!!!

About the AI i am feeling it much better and less cheating than 12 but since i´m only playing exibithins so far and did not star a ML i can´t tell much about the cheating, that happens a lot during ML.

But i´m finding the CPU much less direct than 12, i´m seeing a lot of cycling balls, long balls, passes back, and not only drible drible drible like in 12. At least with brasilian teams i am very happy with the AI, don´t know if it´s the same with stronger teams.

Still did not begin the ML, i´m waiting for the DLC be available for the US version and see if they update the transfers in October for the brasilian teams.

 

[Rantboy]

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I hate the commentaries so i turn it off always, didn´t even tried. Also the music of the game is total shit, had to turn it off also!!!

About the AI i am feeling it much better and less cheating than 12 but since i´m only playing exibithins so far and did not star a ML i can´t tell much about the cheating, that happens a lot during ML.

But i´m finding the CPU much less direct than 12, i´m seeing a lot of cycling balls, long balls, passes back, and not only drible drible drible like in 12. At least with brasilian teams i am very happy with the AI, don´t know if it´s the same with stronger teams.

Still did not begin the ML, i´m waiting for the DLC be available for the US version and see if they update the transfers in October for the brasilian teams.

Ah, that's nice to hear. Thanks for that.
For me PES 2012 was unplayable on single player modes.

 

[Jimmy G-Force]

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Yeah, same mate. Zero assist is rewarding when it comes off, but I can't help but feel sometimes it makes easy passes a lot harder then what they should be. Really struggling to thread through that final ball, realistic but can be hugely frustrating. Getting an abundance of 0-0s so I may need to increase to 15 min games.

I bumped it up to 1 bar for a couple games, but I then found making openings too 'cheap' and less worked for. I'm in limbo. Think I'll stick with unassisted for a little longer, see if I progress.

If it helps Dan, it took me at least 20 games on the demo to get to grips with it. Then it simply just clicked and now I feel that any error is my own. There doesn't feel like there is any inconsistencies ala PES 12. Deft touches are a tap, normal weight of pass is just that little bit more, and drilled passes with zip anything from half to full power. A lot of concentration is required, but once you get it, you just roll it with beautifully. It's the same with regards the varying power levels with X as it is with Circle , Through-balls on the deck or the air. And you get more assistance with the latter, the better the player.

Stick with it Dan, it's very early doors.

 

[StayingPower]

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Any tips for lobs? Just using B (Circle on PS3 gamepad), no modifiers, and they seem a bit useless. Not enough height OR power.

 

[curdstar]

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Couldn't agree more, this wenb patrolling is awful.. My god what stress.. Staying away from wenb forum seems not enough to avoid Adam & co.

Anyway, final version is actually different for me, ball physics overall for my tastes is a lot worse. I felt the ball alive in demo1 as never before in current gen whereas in final ver is clearly more floaty.
I'd like to see a patch to fix the ball physic.

Funny how it is only zealots like yourself who believe in some massive WENB fronted conspiracy that are "stressed". Everyone else is just playing and commenting on the game itself instead of getting involved in frankly weird cross community politics.

I engage in conversation in this community and others beyond WENB because I like the game; it's why we are all here at the end of the day. If you need to think there is some kind of patrolling going on and that something more dark and sinister is taking place so be it. I'll just be playing PES and talking with other players on here, WENB, PESFan or wherever I have a registration.

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Why oh why couldn't they just make the way night matches look in some stadia when the rain is on the default look for night games! del Planque, Vicente Calderon, Olympic Stadium and others look great at night when it is raining. Not to say night visuals haven't taken a wee boost but it still ain't enough for me.

Have to agree regards the dilemma between 0 bar and 1 bar. 0 bar is by far more satisfying but it ain't half a slog sometimes, whereas 1 bar is and less of a stress but can feel like cheating sometimes.

Does anyone else play on Pitch Side camera? It's my camera of choice but I swear the game feels a lot quicker. Might bump it down to -1 to see if it suits me better.

 

[lo00o2]

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Couldn't agree more, this wenb patrolling is awful.. My god what stress.. Staying away from wenb forum seems not enough to avoid Adam & co.

Anyway, final version is actually different for me, ball physics overall for my tastes is a lot worse. I felt the ball alive in demo1 as never before in current gen whereas in final ver is clearly more floaty.
I'd like to see a patch to fix the ball physic.

+ 1 !!!!!!!

 

[Honome]

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Any tips for lobs? Just using B (Circle on PS3 gamepad), no modifiers, and they seem a bit useless. Not enough height OR power.

Press R2 + circle and you´ll have higher long balls and crosses.

 

[stuartyd]

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I haven't heard much mention of online from you guys which is all I've played so far. Why does it take so long to connect to an opponent when the game is just out and you would imagine loads of people would be online!?

90% of the online matches that I have eventually connected to have been a double pressure fest. I didn't think you could still hold down the press buttons effectively anymore but these fuckers are managing to do it somehow.

 

[DuduBR9]

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no just a normal lob through pass, on assisted. thats all people do on assisted, through pass through pass and even long range shots. so boring. and i cant stop playing them because it automatically matchs us up

What about pressure online ? Are people still able to hold down X and square non stop with no consequences, giving you no space and time to build up your attack ?

IMO this is even worse than playing in assisted.

 

[dannyfc2]

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If it helps Dan, it took me at least 20 games on the demo to get to grips with it. Then it simply just clicked and now I feel that any error is my own. There doesn't feel like there is any inconsistencies ala PES 12. Deft touches are a tap, normal weight of pass is just that little bit more, and drilled passes with zip anything from half to full power. A lot of concentration is required, but once you get it, you just roll it with beautifully. It's the same with regards the varying power levels with X as it is with Circle , Through-balls on the deck or the air. And you get more assistance with the latter, the better the player.

Stick with it Dan, it's very early doors.

Yeah definitely, it's just that sweet spot between the defensive line and it trickling into the keeper's grasp that I'm having difficulty finding. Got an inkling the Teamwork stat plays a part, noticed that my new signings struggle to link up more then the starting players.

Either way it's added another layer of challenge to the ML, so i invisage myself playing offline for a fair old while more then i anticipated.

On a side note I really like that they've added more error to rash hoofs, more often then not they'll either fire out of play or straight down the oppositions midfield. Really loving the fact the default ML team are now back to being absolute cloggers rather then the assured, composed footballers they were in PES 12.

 

[Interista]

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For those that tried MLO, do the form arrows change every match or is it like PES2012 where they change daily (I think?) I didn't like the PES2012 MLO for this reason..

Someone start a PES2013 MLO thread? The PES2012 thread wasn't as successful as the PES2011 we had.

 

[makky]

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I actually felt exactly the same way until about 45mins ago.

Finally, FINALLY feel as though I have cracked dribbling to some degree. Beginning to notice that even just a feather of R2 as you approach then bursting in just about any direction with sprint results in you wrong footing or simply boosting past opposition players. All dependant on the player in possession of course.

I was guilty before of holding R2 a little too long until the deft touch animations initiated before bursting with sprint or changing direction but you don't need the animations to start to reap the benefits if that makes any sense.

Now on to mastering the feel of dynamic first touch which if I am being honest I have struggled with since the demo's. Can you have the left stick pushed in a direction when you look to press R2 at the right time? I know I am doing it sometimes as there is a rather satisfying burst when the player traps perfectly but just curious as to some of the finer points as the training challenge mode is completely useless for educating one on the nuances of control.

Completely agree.
I found this method of dribbling after about 10 games in. Subtle touches with R2, combined with more subtle touches of R1 (sprint), can be very effective when trying to make space, or take players on. Sometimes deadly in front of goal.

 

[makky]

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+ 1 !!!!!!!

+2. In demo 1 the ball seemed more 'free' and was a throwback to the good old days lol.

 

[flokiman]

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+2. In demo 1 the ball seemed more 'free' and was a throwback to the good old days lol.

Let's hope jenkey1002 gameplay tool will fix it.
You can affect shot power, ball speed, ball weight.
Experimenting with it may give us the gameplay of demo v.1
Hopefully...

Please send messages to yair25 to make the gameplay like the demo one.

 

[Ad75]

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Wheres the afternoon matches option? anyone know?

 

[Esoliman]

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Don't know if anyone else had this problem or if i'm posting in the right section...
I uploaded my stuff from PES 2012 and it's tweaked in terms of player skill cards etc
anyhow it seems after some more editing the game freeze completely ? i've done it couple of times even re-started from scratch and at a certain point the game crash whether i'm in the editing menu or trying to play a game it's like there is a graphic problems or something.. i took the option file a friend ( i have the 40 GB phat model ) he has the slim 120 GB one.. same problem occurred even before we started the game (game plan ) .. anyone else faced this problem ?

 

[yair25]

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what i want to see in pes is the AI team play like granada played against barca today they know that they need to defend because they play against barca but in pes you don't see team come to the game in this mentality.

 

[Matty_17]

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What about pressure online ? Are people still able to hold down X and square non stop with no consequences, giving you no space and time to build up your attack ?

IMO this is even worse than playing in assisted.

not at all, pressure really isnt a problem. on manual vs manual at least

my manual vs manual games have been all about good build up, whenever im pressured im forced to switch it wide or more likely play it back, its to much a risk playing those tight passes from your defence... it just feels good... id actually say pressing is a more underpowered than overpowered... there are times when i want to up the tempo but i can only press 2, MAYBE 3 guys (super fast and accurate cursor switching and pressing) at a time, yet the rest of my team doesnt push up to cut out the passing angles... this should be solved by the tactics board but you cant, so itll stay like that i guess

 

[flokiman]

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what i want to see in pes is the AI team play like granada played against barca today they know that they need to defend because they play against barca but in pes you don't see team come to the game in this mentality.

This is called "team AI"
and its not implemented in pes 2013.
Every single player has his own AI. We cannot expect a game become real life.
At least, it must be fun, addicting, thrilling, unpredicatble, make you want "just another game"
Pes 2013 Demo v.1, was so close!!!

 

[Issidingo]

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i just finished a long on line session. it reminded a lot of pes 6. It so fast!!! it is all about dribbling, speed, and sliding tackles whores.not sure the filter works very well. i was on manual and i clearly met people that were on full assist. they didn't miss a single pass.

Not my cup of tea to be honest. what else, visually it is really depressing. Actually this time around night game seemed better than day game. Day games are quite ugly, u can clearly notice the lack of any AA and some zombie looking light. What happened to the afternoon games? they disappeared!

I think vs mates at home it can be a brilliant experience. CL mode is probably the on line mode i am gonna play. Game looks mile better in CL games. lighting is different.

 

[pes4lyfe]

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what i want to see in pes is the AI team play like granada played against barca today they know that they need to defend because they play against barca but in pes you don't see team come to the game in this mentality.

i said that for years i wish there was built in cpu ''styles '' of play

eg..when u are good team at home to weak team they camp whole game men behind ball 1 stiker and play counter

when u play away to barcelona they play high p pitch and u dont get much possesion

when u play like say wimbeldon type team they always do long ball and have tall strong players

stuff like that if u u understand me...

also, if team socres they camp even more if away or if they concede they attack more etc..more dynamic ai

 

[pes4lyfe]

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This is called "team AI"
and its not implemented in pes 2013.
Every single player has his own AI. We cannot expect a game become real life.
At least, it must be fun, addicting, thrilling, unpredicatble, make you want "just another game"
Pes 2013 Demo v.1, was so close!!!

yes but having varius teams play with different type of ai makes it more interesting imo u will always have diff kinds of games and need to play diferently to win them..surely its the future of footy gaming..

 

[info0]

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YouTube - Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 - Ajax vs Real Madrid - full game HD (720p)

This made me wonder, why KONAMI hesitated to make such game before? Or maybe I am just poor at PES? (but tbf PES 2012 was cheating galore, so stick with Professional difficulty for the most part, on video I put it was Regular I believe and yes, I did have space, but couldn't finish, AI was ruthless in that regard. On Regular. O_O).

I mean the much better team won, fair and square. They outplayed me. Ronaldo shone throughout the game. If you chose career as lesser team, be prepared for struggle (here a note: on FIFA you could play D3 team and win vs big boys without much problems, on PES 2013 such thing should be much harder).

Like I said, Hail PES. The king is getting back to the throne?