PES 2013 Discussion Thread

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I have just one question for real players, players that don't care about FREAKING BOOTS or league being cut off and strictly focus on gameplay. Where do you rank this game ? Best PES ever ?
 
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I bought PES 2013, just installed here!!

Yesterday I was playing the version that the people is downloading in the internet (Proper Reload) with 6GB.
But the original version that i bought on gameplanet is more than 10GB, and is a lot different that the other, the game is a little bit faster, shoot is more like demo1, and i may have seen some new animations.

My friend agree with me.
I preffer much more the original version. Someone else has test the both versions???
 
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CapoXBoss said:
I have just one question for real players, players that don't care about FREAKING BOOTS or league being cut off and strictly focus on gameplay. Where do you rank this game ? Best PES ever ?
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Mate, you've made it quite clear that you could care less about the ML boots travesty and league mode being removed but there are many decent, longtime forum members who do care quite a bit and whose gameplay experience is going to be severely negatively affected. It doesn't mean they're not 'real' players as you put it.
You should try to not to be so disrespectful with your posts - all of us are here because of our passion for the game and just because some have a differing viewpoint than you doesn't make them somehow inferior. Carry on then.
 
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JBranco said:
I bought PES 2013, just installed here!!

Yesterday I was playing the version that the people is downloading in the internet (Proper Reload) with 6GB.
But the original version that i bought on gameplanet is more than 10GB, and is a lot different that the other, the game is a little bit faster, shoot is more like demo1, and i may have seen some new animations.

My friend agree with me.
I preffer much more the original version. Someone else has test the both versions???
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*sigh* I guess you didn't read the thread title.
 
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JBranco said:
I bought PES 2013, just installed here!!

Yesterday I was playing the version that the people is downloading in the internet (Proper Reload) with 6GB.
But the original version that i bought on gameplanet is more than 10GB, and is a lot different that the other, the game is a little bit faster, shoot is more like demo1, and i may have seen some new animations.

My friend agree with me.
I preffer much more the original version. Someone else has test the both versions???
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No talk of warez in here.
 
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sincover said:
*sigh* I guess you didn't read the thread title.
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I just bought the original game, and i am asking people who did the same.
But if this is wrong too ok, i guess i'll be banned, i didn't mean that, ok i was just curious about two different versions of the same game!!
 
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CapoXBoss said:
I have just one question for real players, players that don't care about FREAKING BOOTS or league being cut off and strictly focus on gameplay. Where do you rank this game ? Best PES ever ?
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Look at my sig.
Its tied for first place this generation. IMO
 
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CapoXBoss said:
I have just one question for real players, players that don't care about FREAKING BOOTS or league being cut off and strictly focus on gameplay. Where do you rank this game ? Best PES ever ?
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Mate I wasn't convinced on 0 speed but put it to -1 and this game is the best ever individuality at it's best. Its the only pes I highly rate.
And to be honest I don't mind the boots if you start ml with the terrible players.
 
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I just got my game at lunchtime here. Flicked through the manual and there's a quick restart option which I assume means when the game stops for a foul? Has anyone tried it and does it work properly. I think it's been there in the past but didn't always work?
 
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Bloody Konami, they messed with the shooting again. For me it was perfect in demo 2.
At the moment i've played only 5 games and maybe is too soon to judge it, but this is not the giant leap forward the demo's seem to indicate. The retail version is IMO (at the moment) less good than demo 1 and 2.
I can understand the difference between demo 1 and demo 2. They got feedback and changed it. But demo 2 should be like the retail version. IMO it isn't.
Why do they always kind of mess up?

To be fair, you can't judge a PES game after 5 matches. It takes months. And my first impression is that it's vastly superior to PES12. Right at the moment IMO it's inferior to PES2011. Both my kids think it's the best they ever played (but they only played the game in current gen).
 
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Players with 85+ shooting power can hit some strong ones. But the ones in the lower values the shot looks very very weak.

The R2 shot also looks very floaty and weak.
 
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goalgerd said:
thats the thing,you shouldnt have to force yourslf to like any game and it sounds like that some in here are putting up with alot more than really they should be,at the end of the day its a "game" to be enjoyed not to be tortured with
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You have to allow yourself time to get over the learning curve though. PES 5 was a bitch of a game and people complained about so many things back then. Yet imo it was one of the best. Yes it had deeply flawed AI that would sit and soak up pressure or 90 minutes and other things like the crab step.

@avok 2013 same as 2008 ?!

Please mate don't troll like that its just nasty. Then again you do think that arcadey rubbish that is PES6 is the bestest everrrrrrr which kinda gives a good insight.
 
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gerd said:
Bloody Konami, they messed with the shooting again. For me it was perfect in demo 2.
At the moment i've played only 5 games and maybe is too soon to judge it, but this is not the giant leap forward the demo's seem to indicate. The retail version is IMO (at the moment) less good than demo 1 and 2.
I can understand the difference between demo 1 and demo 2. They got feedback and changed it. But demo 2 should be like the retail version. IMO it isn't.
Why do they always kind of mess up?

To be fair, you can't judge a PES game after 5 matches. It takes months. And my first impression is that it's vastly superior to PES12. Right at the moment IMO it's inferior to PES2011. Both my kids think it's the best they ever played (but they only played the game in current gen).
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specifically whats wrong with the shooting ?
 
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When thos 2mph shots get parried or crawl into the far corner
 
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15 games in and im loving this game, noticing more how teams play different, iv been having alot of midfield battles, individuality is looking more noticeable, for me this is the best game ever :-)
 
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abubuu said:
15 games in and im loving this game, noticing more how teams play different, iv been having alot of midfield battles, individuality is looking more noticeable, for me this is the best game ever :-)
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Good stuff. Nice to hear from a fellow Aussie. What console you on? I'm trying to poach Xbox players from Australia lol
 
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Fabulous to hear. Hearing so much positivity around FIFA and so little marvelling at PES that I was starting to worry. Played one game just now, Man Utd v Juve....man, it was fkin perfect. I need to stop reading the negative comments, they must be playing a different game to me. For me, this year is so sim-like it's more than what I could have hoped for.

@Abu - do the CPU play a more patient build up approach? I hear many people still not getting to grips with defending this year and saying the CPU is just attack, attack, attack. Personally I don't find it the case to be honest, BUT, I would like a tad more slower CPU build up? So what's the retail like in terms of game pace over demo 2 and CPU build up v demo 2?

Thanks
 
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does anybody know if the EUROPEAN version of PES2013 has an englisch audio option this time? Up until now there has only been a english audio option in the UK version?

does anybody have the european game and can check this for me?

thanks
 
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IMO the shots are too floaty. Nowhere near as catastrophical as PES2012. If i hadn't played demo 2, i would be over the moon. But for me demo 2 was better. Maybe it will grow on me, it certainly is a good game (and to be fair, in my previous post i said PES2011 was better, but i'm not so sure...this game does not have the obvious flaws PES2011 had, it's just that after a while i could play fantastic football with a team like Villareal in PES2011, but maybe in a few weeks or months i can do the same).
 
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Tried pc full ver.
Only a few matches but I miss that demo 1 feeling.
Maybe time will help
 
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Hammered the full game a bit more last night and, though I'll play both games this year, I feel that FIFA is going to be main choice.

The animations and movement on PES just feel sluggish, even when you turn the speed up. I actually play a slow game but DAMN, these animations just feel SLOW at times!

With the "force field" event, the goalkeeper constantly parrying saves straight to the CPU (and that's when they manage to get a hand to the shot), the rails/locked movement where you can't do anything or are restricted ... it just feels like a game from 5 years ago at times.

It does a lot of things right. If the animations were fixed and went a bit quicker but they kept the pace and acceleration of players down then the pace could be perfect. It does play a slower match (although FIFA 13 is supposedly slower in retail) but it just doesn't feel right.

I also find it far more satisfying to beat players by just using the left stick on PES than on FIFA, where on FIFA I don't feel like I can get as tight control to do little slips to the side of players and go passed them.

BAL is nonsense too. Playing as Messi, I barely saw any of the ball as some fake Scandinavian team pretty much battered Barcelona in my first match. Barca got the ball and struggled to do anything with it, ridiculous. Obviously they've not worked on the AI for this years BAL and it's the same mess as it was last year.

As I say, both have good points, both have bad points, but we'll all have our main game if we play both. And, like last year, it'll be FIFA for me.

BRING ON THE FLAMES! ;)
 
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Agreed on floatyness.
Maybe Yair Could add some weight to that light ball?
 
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DagsJT said:
Hammered the full game a bit more last night and, though I'll play both games this year, I feel that FIFA is going to be main choice.

The animations and movement on PES just feel sluggish, even when you turn the speed up. I actually play a slow game but DAMN, these animations just feel SLOW at times!

With the "force field" event, the goalkeeper constantly parrying saves straight to the CPU (and that's when they manage to get a hand to the shot), the rails/locked movement where you can't do anything or are restricted ... it just feels like a game from 5 years ago at times.

It does a lot of things right. If the animations were fixed and went a bit quicker but they kept the pace and acceleration of players down then the pace could be perfect. It does play a slower match (although FIFA 13 is supposedly slower in retail) but it just doesn't feel right.

I also find it far more satisfying to beat players by just using the left stick on PES than on FIFA, where on FIFA I don't feel like I can get as tight control to do little slips to the side of players and go passed them.

BAL is nonsense too. Playing as Messi, I barely saw any of the ball as some fake Scandinavian team pretty much battered Barcelona in my first match. Barca got the ball and struggled to do anything with it, ridiculous. Obviously they've not worked on the AI for this years BAL and it's the same mess as it was last year.

As I say, both have good points, both have bad points, but we'll all have our main game if we play both. And, like last year, it'll be FIFA for me.

BRING ON THE FLAMES! ;)
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I agree with you but i think you should go play cricket
 
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I have a question regarding the pre-order steelbook (CL-Edition) version:
does someone has grabbed it already?
was there the promised DLC code for classic CL-ballpack included?
 
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Pere Ubu said:
Sorry, I'm still banging my head off the ground at the removal of league mode.

I've never been interested in training poles or looking after budgets - if I want to play a manager game, I'll play a manager game, thanks... and a proper one, not one aimed at kids. It would be nice to do transfers, but I hate the way that after a year or so you've got Puyol at Real Madrid, Crouch at Barcelona etc etc, complete joke. League mode avoids all that crap, and you still get the Champions League and Europa League integrated, the officially-licensed ball and adboards (if the league is fully licensed) and so on. It's always been the only way to do a league season in PES games, ever since it was introduced. It's my thing; it's what I do offline. This is before you even get to the magic boots bullshit. (And anyone who thinks it's clever to say "my God stop moaning, are you that worried about something small like boots?" just blows my mind... is there any kind of piss-taking, realism-destroying, corporate-led gimmick that you feel wouldn't destroy the atmosphere of PES and turn the game into a laughing stock?)

This year, as a stadium nut, I'd already decided to play La Liga again, as my mouth was watering at the La Liga stadium pack, the answer to my prayers. More realism, deeper immersion than ever before! Har har har.

At best, I might be able to make a league format in Konami Cup mode, assuming it's that flexible. But what's the betting that there's an 18-team maximum for absolutely no reason at all, or something absurd like that? And you won't get the Champions League / Europa League included, let alone the official league ball. Perhaps I'm asking too much and it won't actually be possible to play any kind of league at all. What joy.

Last night, as I went off to sleep, I was wondering why Konami decided to remove this... and suddenly the penny dropped. Presumably they're forcing everyone to play ML. They're forcing everyone to play ML because of the whole boots thing. It's not just some ill-advised gimmick - it's front and centre in their thinking, the key aspect of PES 2013. All that supposed work on the gameplay, it's all secondary to the magic boots, which are the number one priority this year, to the point where the game modes have been butchered to force everyone to experience that joy.

Now why would that have happened? Could it be because the whole thing is some kind of tie-in with Adidas and Nike, and one of the conditions of receiving money from those loveable sweatshop-funded corporate teddybears is that no one must be allowed to play a league season without their magic boots being a key component? And to ensure this aspect of the game can't be overlooked, the visual realism of ML must be destroyed so everyone who isn't wearing a pair of magic boots is very conspicuously wearing plain black clogs from 1965? So that the whole universe of football sim Pro Evolution Soccer is ruled by corporate-branded boots with special powers? I'm only speculating here, maybe I'm wrong. But if I'm wrong, Konami really are the stupidest company in the entire fucking world. And if I'm not, they're craven sods who have sold "our" game down the river for the sake of cold hard cash (which we know damn well will not be ploughed back into licenses or game development, it'll go straight into the Konami coffers and stay there) and they should be told in no uncertain terms that if they ever do it again they may find any material gains offset by the sudden drop in the number of PES players. It's bad enough this year... we all know there are lots of FIFA players planning to try PES again - what are they going to think when they splash out the best part of forty quid, go into a season, and realise they've just bought some kind of Japanese card-collecting game?

I don't know... maybe league mode is coming back in some kind of DLC. But that makes no sense whatsoever, so I really don't think so. I'd be pacified if it happened, but I can't imagine that for a second. I think this is the way Konami have chosen to take the game. If they carry on down this road, they can stick their Fox engine up their backsides - PES2014 may as well not be released. At least as far as I'm concerned.
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Excellent post, couldn't have said it better myself
 
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I am slightly worried about people mentioning the floaty ball physics in shooting. I hope this isn't the case though.

Demo 1 had over powered for sure, but I'd rather they stuck with that over floaty shooting.

If they have fucked up the shooting once again, it really messes the game up for me, because I never feel the urge to pop one off from distance. Instead, I end up randomly passing it about until I can get directly inside the box where it go in. Same problem with pes 2012.

Give me the overpowered shooting of demo 1 or the consistency of demo 2, at least it provides some satisfaction.

Of course I am yet to play game, but if it's worse than demo 2, oh dear!
 
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So, just to clarify, they've made the shots weaker for the retail version?

They do this for online players I reckon, realistic shot + LAG = goal. Floaty shot + LAG = what a save!

I don't see the point in playing a football game where the players can't kick the ball as hard as me in real life!

2012 v2.0 - I guess that's all I was expecting anyway, despite the superb demos...
 
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