PES 2013 Discussion Thread

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Pere Ubu said:
OK, before I shut up about this subject, let me say clearly why something seems fishy.

1. Konami added a new feature to ML which they seemed to realise would be very unpopular with the hardcore fanbase, because rather than trumpeting it in pre-release publicity like any other innovation, they kept completely silent about it. They didn't even tell their number one cheerleader, who only knew about it when he got his preview code - in fact, they hauled him over the coals for going public a few weeks before release.

2. Unlike every other feature in ML since the beginning of time, Konami fixed it so this can't be switched off, so anyone who doesn't like magic boots etc can't get out of it that way.

3. They removed League Mode so that anyone who doesn't like magic boots etc can't get out of it that way.

4. There are suggestions that they've removed offline Community mode so that anyone who doesn't like magic boots etc can't get out of it that way. Even if they haven't, it means you have to go through a weirdly convoluted process to play a non-magical league.

5. Why, when Konami seemed to know that this feature would be hugely unpopular, did they take so many steps to ensure you couldn't switch it off - to the point of completely removing popular longstanding game modes, thus diminishing PES 2013 as an overall package?

6. Any possible answer to that question is very worrying and/or very depressing, don't you think?
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Answers to your queries:

1. $
2. $
3. $
4. $
5. $
6. $

Let's not fool ourselves - when it came down to either pleasing the corporate tie-ins for the boots or the hardcore fanbase, the decision was fairly simple. Shame really as it always seemed as though Konami seemed to be fighting the good fight and EA was in it for the moneygrab - now look who's sold out their game for greed. Looks like from here on out, it's mainly an evolution of $
 
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DagsJT said:
We know. So why are you still reading and posting in the thread?

I hate cricket. Therefore I don't visit cricket threads or forums.
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LOL
Perfect...
 
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Matty_17 said:
surely it'll be tonight seeing at the game is released on the 20th for europe
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Still can't connect with the PC version. It says servers are down. No DLC download as well...
 
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DagsJT said:
We know. So why are you still reading and posting in the thread?

I hate cricket. Therefore I don't visit cricket threads or forums.
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exactly! this thread is full of people that says "i hate the game" and don´t leave the thread and keep coming back every hour just to talk bullshit.
 
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Seriously adam is the biggest c*nt going. I got banned for saying how the keepers feel scripted when the palm the ball into the middle of the 6 yard box for the cpu to easily tap in, i got warned about spreading false feedback. I then told him that he bans people for no reason and said my piece to get banned. He really is a stupid idiot.

Then someone sticks up for me and he then tells them stop sticking their nose in his buisness and insults them.

That guy runs his forums in such a terrible way and has no respect. seriously hes a nobend.

He also trying to say he has had run ins with me in the past. He has had no such run ins. Ive gave good feeback and he hasnt warned me before about anything.
 
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dmxdex2020 said:
Seriously adam is the biggest c*nt going. I got banned for saying how the keepers feel scripted when the palm the ball into the middle of the 6 yard box for the cpu to easily tap in, i got warned about spreading false feedback. I then told him that he bans people for no reason and said my piece to get banned. He really is a stupid idiot.

Then someone sticks up for me and he then tells them stop sticking their nose in his buisness and insults them.

That guy runs his forums in such a terrible way and has no respect. seriously hes a nobend.

He also trying to say he has had run ins with me in the past. He has had no such run ins. Ive gave good feeback and he hasnt warned me before about anything.
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Seriously, but...who cares?

The difference with demo 2?
I've only played two matches, it's just a vague impressive, but the game seems rougher, more difficult to master, less smooth.

To be honest i started the game with passing and shooting on manual and i started demo 2 on with assisted passing and shooting...that could well be the reason.

Don't forget i only played two matches. I am currently watching the CL...
 
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gerd said:
Seriously, but...who cares?

The difference with demo 2?
I've only played two matches, it's just a vague impressive, but the game seems rougher, more difficult to master, less smooth.

To be honest i started the game with passing and shooting on manual and i started demo 2 on with assisted passing and shooting...that could well be the reason.

Don't forget i only played two matches. I am currently watching the CL...
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Ive seen plenty of posts on here of his handling of forum members.
 
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Tim7 said:
Community will be added in DLC.
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yeah, i read that. so will konami push this out because of all the fan talk before release or was it on plan all the time!? in the end, it doesnt matter why, but i just want to know...
anyway: im very satisfied with that decission! i always kept track of scores and stuff against my mates! plus it could help us out of that league mess.
DagsJT said:
I've just dropped from 1-bar to zero and it plays very different. Feels a lot harder to string together a move and feels a lot more satisfying. Seems harder to get power into passes though.
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i tried with 1 bar first but 1 day after the first demo came out i switched back to 0! as u say it: its so much more rewarding and the feel and flow is different to assisted passes.
Jimmy G-Force said:
Higher in the air, with no follow-through, it gives you height and reduced speed. Perfect for picking a pass in a crowded area or a prerequisite to a first-time flicked/volleyed cushioned pass.
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i use that technique when i want to play a high ball into the penalty area, say to van buyten or gomez. huge players that really do benefit from that kind of long pass. u dont get enemys to cut in before the ball reaches your teammate!

and to me, mixing up all the controlles available, to try something new, to explore, train hard and a long time in training mode, that is PES! it always has been... diggin deep!
 
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I think I will try 0 passing later.
 
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0 passing is good, its defo not fully manual from what i can feel, but still nice.
 
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Tim7 said:
I think I will try 0 passing later.
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yeah! :D do it. and when you nearly nailed it, switch to manual shooting too!

u might miss some passes or goals but otherwise you will always miss out on the "whole package" aka fun! :D

plz give us/me feedback then!

btw: there is so much i could talk about my love to manual pes gaming but CL is running and i need to watch my team...!
later then!
 
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Ameppe said:
0 bars is the way it's meant to be played
that is the real pes 2013 difference
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couldnt agree more, i can imagine the designers at konami shaking their heads wondering how most ppl are still playing with assistance after spending so much time making such a perfect manual game...

all they need to do now is have the option for the arrow to stay on...
manual guidance option; on / off / always on
 
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DagsJT said:
I've just dropped from 1-bar to zero and it plays very different. Feels a lot harder to string together a move and feels a lot more satisfying. Seems harder to get power into passes though.
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It's a completely different type of game on Zero, even compared to 1-Bar. So much more considered in its approach, right across the board. You have to earn the right to even create a chance, never mind score. And as you rightly say, very satisfying and rewarding. Individuality shines at its brightest as well in the passing department. You have to judge the weight of pass, and this also is relevant with both the decked and high through-balls. They have improved the consistency of the differing weights of pass and now everything feels just right. Much improved on PES 12's Zero equivalent.
 
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What difficulty level do you manual players use??

Might try it for offline ML!
 
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OneZeoN said:
What difficulty level do you manual players use??

Might try it for offline ML!
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usually on world class or one lower. think its normal. but i tried superstar this morning and i managed to play 0:0 with munich against valencia.

ill find my final difficulty setting when i have 10 or 15 min matches going! and maybe in 6 month i will go all out superstar! ;)

btw: what a rocket by kroos! :D i want to play CL soooo badly right now!
 
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I don't get it WHY did they change the shooting again??

It was great in demo1 imo, demo 2 was alright but I preferred demo1 shooting, but in the final game it's almost back to 2012 standards in terms of power. It's so dissapointing. It just sucks all of the fun and excitement out of the game.

And when these weak shots go in they make the goalkeepers look even worse, its just so so dissapointing.
 
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dmxdex2020 said:
No dude.
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When do they usually crop up? I've bought the 360 version last few years so am out the loop.

Standard enhancements are LOD, Kitserver and an option file, amirite?
 
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lo00o2 said:
I don't get it WHY did they change the shooting again??

It was great in demo1 imo, demo 2 was alright but I preferred demo1 shooting, but in the final game it's almost back to 2012 standards in terms of power. It's so dissapointing. It just sucks all of the fun and excitement out of the game.

And when these weak shots go in they make the goalkeepers look even worse, its just so so dissapointing.
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I found it far too easy in demo 1. Me and a mate were scoring pearlers almost every game, devalues the satisfaction quite significantly.

As long as the aiming is alright again it'll be fine.
 
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PESEdit is tomorrow I think.
 
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I think I will keep shooting non manual so stats have some effect.
 
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dannyfc2 said:
Are any option files about for the PC version yet?



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The assistance is so much more apparent with the better passers of the ball, therefore highlighting a bigger gulf between those that are competent and those that are not. It stands to reason, it's the nature of the philosophy. Arguably the biggest factor is weight, but direction plays a big part with the through-ball variants. There are also new passing based Player Cards.

Play with Riqelume on 1 or 2 Bars, then try him on Zero, he stands out like a sore thumb on the demo, with both the simple and clever stuff.

1-bar pretty much assists every players weight of pass, Zero does anything but.
 
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Tim7 said:
I think I will keep shooting non manual so stats have some effect.
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I'm not a fan of this Manual shooting, I think it's shit. It certainly doesn't feel stat-related in the same way the passing does. Not for me, thanks.
 
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