PES 2013 Discussion Thread

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I also thought the shooting was weaker and a tad floaty, but i cracked a shot with Sneijder bottom corner. It was magic, it was deadly accurate exactly where i aimed it. felt so unique. Rather like this than every player hitting screamers as in demo1
 
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I can't believe Konami still hasn't fixed the shitty CB AI. All of the videos I've seen online show the player's CB are STILL scripted to stop and let the CPU attacker pass freely. That shit is horrible and only shows how little confidence they have in their AI programming.
 
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Sorry, I'm still banging my head off the ground at the removal of league mode.

I've never been interested in training poles or looking after budgets - if I want to play a manager game, I'll play a manager game, thanks... and a proper one, not one aimed at kids. It would be nice to do transfers, but I hate the way that after a year or so you've got Puyol at Real Madrid, Crouch at Barcelona etc etc, complete joke. League mode avoids all that crap, and you still get the Champions League and Europa League integrated, the officially-licensed ball and adboards (if the league is fully licensed) and so on. It's always been the only way to do a league season in PES games, ever since it was introduced. It's my thing; it's what I do offline. This is before you even get to the magic boots bullshit. (And anyone who thinks it's clever to say "my God stop moaning, are you that worried about something small like boots?" just blows my mind... is there any kind of piss-taking, realism-destroying, corporate-led gimmick that you feel wouldn't destroy the atmosphere of PES and turn the game into a laughing stock?)

This year, as a stadium nut, I'd already decided to play La Liga again, as my mouth was watering at the La Liga stadium pack, the answer to my prayers. More realism, deeper immersion than ever before! Har har har.

At best, I might be able to make a league format in Konami Cup mode, assuming it's that flexible. But what's the betting that there's an 18-team maximum for absolutely no reason at all, or something absurd like that? And you won't get the Champions League / Europa League included, let alone the official league ball. Perhaps I'm asking too much and it won't actually be possible to play any kind of league at all. What joy.

Last night, as I went off to sleep, I was wondering why Konami decided to remove this... and suddenly the penny dropped. Presumably they're forcing everyone to play ML. They're forcing everyone to play ML because of the whole boots thing. It's not just some ill-advised gimmick - it's front and centre in their thinking, the key aspect of PES 2013. All that supposed work on the gameplay, it's all secondary to the magic boots, which are the number one priority this year, to the point where the game modes have been butchered to force everyone to experience that joy.

Now why would that have happened? Could it be because the whole thing is some kind of tie-in with Adidas and Nike, and one of the conditions of receiving money from those loveable sweatshop-funded corporate teddybears is that no one must be allowed to play a league season without their magic boots being a key component? And to ensure this aspect of the game can't be overlooked, the visual realism of ML must be destroyed so everyone who isn't wearing a pair of magic boots is very conspicuously wearing plain black clogs from 1965? So that the whole universe of football sim Pro Evolution Soccer is ruled by corporate-branded boots with special powers? I'm only speculating here, maybe I'm wrong. But if I'm wrong, Konami really are the stupidest company in the entire fucking world. And if I'm not, they're craven sods who have sold "our" game down the river for the sake of cold hard cash (which we know damn well will not be ploughed back into licenses or game development, it'll go straight into the Konami coffers and stay there) and they should be told in no uncertain terms that if they ever do it again they may find any material gains offset by the sudden drop in the number of PES players. It's bad enough this year... we all know there are lots of FIFA players planning to try PES again - what are they going to think when they splash out the best part of forty quid, go into a season, and realise they've just bought some kind of Japanese card-collecting game?

I don't know... maybe league mode is coming back in some kind of DLC. But that makes no sense whatsoever, so I really don't think so. I'd be pacified if it happened, but I can't imagine that for a second. I think this is the way Konami have chosen to take the game. If they carry on down this road, they can stick their Fox engine up their backsides - PES2014 may as well not be released. At least as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Yeah hold down R2 then power up with the cross button.

P.S. I love how on 0 or 1 bar, you can try the cross field switch and overhit it or go wide of the recipient.
 
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Just spent 2 hrs playin the demo 2. Couldnt put it down, havent felt like this about a footie game since pes6. Shame Konami stuffed things up by getting rid of leagues. Was looking fwd to doing the Bbva league with my boy. ML sucks.

Does anyone know if it is possible to choose the balll type in online matches in? Playing with that hideous pes ball kills the realism!

Thanks
 
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Pere Ubu said:
Sorry, I'm still banging my head off the ground at the removal of league mode.

I've never been interested in training poles or looking after budgets - if I want to play a manager game, I'll play a manager game, thanks... and a proper one, not one aimed at kids. It would be nice to do transfers, but I hate the way that after a year or so you've got Puyol at Real Madrid, Crouch at Barcelona etc etc, complete joke. League mode avoids all that crap, and you still get the Champions League and Europa League integrated, the officially-licensed ball and adboards (if the league is fully licensed) and so on. It's always been the only way to do a league season in PES games, ever since it was introduced. It's my thing; it's what I do offline. This is before you even get to the magic boots bullshit. (And anyone who thinks it's clever to say "my God stop moaning, are you that worried about something small like boots?" just blows my mind... is there any kind of piss-taking, realism-destroying, corporate-led gimmick that you feel wouldn't destroy the atmosphere of PES and turn the game into a laughing stock?)

This year, as a stadium nut, I'd already decided to play La Liga again, as my mouth was watering at the La Liga stadium pack, the answer to my prayers. More realism, deeper immersion than ever before! Har har har.

At best, I might be able to make a league format in Konami Cup mode, assuming it's that flexible. But what's the betting that there's an 18-team maximum for absolutely no reason at all, or something absurd like that? And you won't get the Champions League / Europa League included, let alone the official league ball. Perhaps I'm asking too much and it won't actually be possible to play any kind of league at all. What joy.

Last night, as I went off to sleep, I was wondering why Konami decided to remove this... and suddenly the penny dropped. Presumably they're forcing everyone to play ML. They're forcing everyone to play ML because of the whole boots thing. It's not just some ill-advised gimmick - it's front and centre in their thinking, the key aspect of PES 2013. All that supposed work on the gameplay, it's all secondary to the magic boots, which are the number one priority this year, to the point where the game modes have been butchered to force everyone to experience that joy.

Now why would that have happened? Could it be because the whole thing is some kind of tie-in with Adidas and Nike, and one of the conditions of receiving money from those loveable sweatshop-funded corporate teddybears is that no one must be allowed to play a league season without their magic boots being a key component? And to ensure this aspect of the game can't be overlooked, the visual realism of ML must be destroyed so everyone who isn't wearing a pair of magic boots is very conspicuously wearing plain black clogs from 1965? So that the whole universe of football sim Pro Evolution Soccer is ruled by corporate-branded boots with special powers? I'm only speculating here, maybe I'm wrong. But if I'm wrong, Konami really are the stupidest company in the entire fucking world. And if I'm not, they're craven sods who have sold "our" game down the river for the sake of cold hard cash (which we know damn well will not be ploughed back into licenses or game development, it'll go straight into the Konami coffers and stay there) and they should be told in no uncertain terms that if they ever do it again they may find any material gains offset by the sudden drop in the number of PES players. It's bad enough this year... we all know there are lots of FIFA players planning to try PES again - what are they going to think when they splash out the best part of forty quid, go into a season, and realise they've just bought some kind of Japanese card-collecting game?

I don't know... maybe league mode is coming back in some kind of DLC. But that makes no sense whatsoever, so I really don't think so. I'd be pacified if it happened, but I can't imagine that for a second. I think this is the way Konami have chosen to take the game. If they carry on down this road, they can stick their Fox engine up their backsides - PES2014 may as well not be released. At least as far as I'm concerned.
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Im with you 100%. Its an absolute joke. An unfunny one. Such a poor decision, you can tell the game is still being developed by japs. They love that RPG rainbow fantasy stuff.
 
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araul said:
Just spent 2 hrs playin the demo 2. Couldnt put it down, havent felt like this about a footie game since pes6. Shame Konami stuffed things up by getting rid of leagues. Was looking fwd to doing the Bbva league with my boy. ML sucks.

Does anyone know if it is possible to choose the balll type in online matches in? Playing with that hideous pes ball kills the realism!

Thanks
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I think you can change the ball. I don't like the blue stripe across the ball either. Much prefer a plainer type white ball. Don't mind the PES 2011 ball actually.
 
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CalcioCalabrese said:
Yeah hold down R2 then power up with the cross button.

P.S. I love how on 0 or 1 bar, you can try the cross field switch and overhit it or go wide of the recipient.
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loved cross field passing zero assisted on pes12 reshapes your whole attack if things get congested

if you dont move the player receiving the long pass the ball wont fly past him and out for a throwing ...
 
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CalcioCalabrese said:
I think you can change the ball. I don't like the blue stripe across the ball either. Much prefer a plainer type white ball. Don't mind the PES 2011 ball actually.
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I know in pes 2012 you couldnt change it online. Id be very surprised if you can in 2013. Konami have a habit of removing features, not adding extra ones! Can someone with the game please confirm? ( console version)
 
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araul said:
I know in pes 2012 you couldnt change it online. Id be very surprised if you can in 2013. Konami have a habit of removing features, not adding extra ones! Can someone with the game please confirm? ( console version)
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you could in lobbies, just not quick match...
 
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sincover said:
I can't believe Konami still hasn't fixed the shitty CB AI. All of the videos I've seen online show the player's CB are STILL scripted to stop and let the CPU attacker pass freely. That shit is horrible and only shows how little confidence they have in their AI programming.
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Nonsense.. just play it mate.
 
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araul said:
Im with you 100%. Its an absolute joke. An unfunny one. Such a poor decision, you can tell the game is still being developed by japs. They love that RPG rainbow fantasy stuff.
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Japs? really? What is this 1942?

Anyway, good post Pere. You have articulated exactly why I will not be buying PES 2013.
 
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think konami maybe are asking the question of is online gaming more important nowadays than offline gaming

i have to say i havent played an offline season since pes8 ... pes10 i racked up over 5000 ranked games online and thats without the 20 friendlies per week v jimmyGforce so looking at the pattern of gaming nowadays is it more about the online experience than offline?

shoot em ups the campaign is shorter but all the budget now gets put into creating the online experience and making that the priority maybe pes is moving in that direction if they are i hope the server is improved for online because zero assisted and delay is just a pointless game of pes due to the game being how hard you press for a pass add delay and its all over the chippy
 
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CalcioCalabrese said:
So you keep saying...

Why does your signature refer to an Xbox 380?
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Well, he did quote The God himself, didn't he? Is it really so strange that deity owns piece of equipment not available to us, mere mortals?
 
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It´s a shame, that this year there is no League Mode. They put in the 20 original stadia from La Liga and took out the League mode. Have no words. Since 2010 that I buy PES. But I think PES 2012 was the last game I bought from Konami. Bye bye!!!


P.S. Tried to play again ML. This mode is simply shit!!!
 
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amier said:
Nonsense.. just play it mate.
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Nonsense? I'm seeing the same shit i saw in PES 2012 and PES 2011 before it. We all know what I'm talking about because we have all experienced it before.

If you choose to ignore it then good for you, but playing it won't change the fact that it's still facking there.
 
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sincover said:
Japs? really? What is this 1942?

Anyway, good post Pere. You have articulated exactly why I will not be buying PES 2013.
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Whats wrong with saying japs? Same as yanks, argies, poms,etc. Just an abbreviation mate. :))
 
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sincover said:
Nonsense? I'm seeing the same shit i saw in PES 2012 and PES 2011 before it. We all know what I'm talking about because we have all experienced it before.

If you choose to ignore it then good for you, but playing it won't change the fact that it's still facking there.
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Your loss ;) Most certainly not 'ours'
 
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With the boots being interchangeable from player to player (I think...), there's surely little or no point in signing up to a commercial relationship with one or other manufacturer, who have tie-ins with players.

I'm going to like or hate the boots situation for what it is, not what theories of marketing and modes say it might be.

In other words

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As an offline ML player, I'm gutted with this boots thing and the training regime you can "purchase". I mean, +3 on all abilities? Really? So if I buy Messi I can turn him into even more ridiculously God-like?

Now someone was saying here these things are optional (training gear, stopwatch... hopefully boots as well?). Anyone who has the game and kind enough to confirm this?

Also, it doesn't matter if their focus is on online modes now. How hard is it to keep them League modes?

And the other thing is playing the standalone CL. I've read in other forums that there's no Arsenal, Chelsea, City - nor North London, West London Blue or Man Blue, for that matter. Is it really true?

It's puzzling to imagine a company buying the license for the CL, only to offer a disfigured version of it?
 
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Rentboy said:
As an offline ML player, I'm gutted with this boots thing and the training regime you can "purchase". I mean, +3 on all abilities? Really? So if I buy Messi I can turn him into even more ridiculously God-like?

Now someone was saying here these things are optional (training gear, stopwatch... hopefully boots as well?). Anyone who has the game and kind enough to confirm this?

Also, it doesn't matter if their focus is on online modes now. How hard is it to keep them League modes?

And the other thing is playing the standalone CL. I've read in other forums that there's no Arsenal, Chelsea, City - nor North London, West London Blue or Man Blue, for that matter. Is it really true?

It's puzzling to imagine a company buying the license for the CL, only to offer a disfigured version of it?
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It was me who said it.. and i said it because i have the game. So yes optional except for boots.
 
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amier said:
It was me who said it.. and i said it because i have the game. So yes optional except for boots.
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Is it true u can turn development and transfers off turning ML effectively into a league mode?
 
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amier said:
It was me who said it.. and i said it because i have the game. So yes optional except for boots.
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So you have to equip boots if you get them? You can't just ignore them too, if you want?
 
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amier said:
Your loss ;) Most certainly not 'ours'
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Yes PES will have one less fan this year, but I know I wont be missed. They still have many of 'you' ;)

araul said:
Whats wrong with saying japs? Same as yanks, argies, poms,etc. Just an abbreviation mate. :))
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It's cool. I know now you meant no offense, but the word does have a history of negative use (at least in the US).
 
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these boots are they standard at the start of ml ?
 
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araul said:
Never used lobbies. Only like two ppl in there and could never get a game. Couldnt change it in MLO either.:CURSE:
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well worth it.. more settings etc.. usually find a game somewhere:))
 
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is nobody concerned about the new quit at half time online thingy????

it seems to me that all ranked matches will end at half time this year...
 
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