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Lami said:
I think you're definitely on about the wrong game now. 2008 and balloon shots don't mix. They're quite powerful.

I'm starting to doubt some of you even touched that game now and only go off what other users post.

Anyway, it really looks like Adam is gone from that tweet. Who's going to take over though? Must be someone from within?
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i wasnt talking about ballon shots , but about shots that like in this is footbal (2000 psx)...there was only 3 type of shots ...one goes low to the keeper, second goes high to the keeper, third goes wide or over but with the same distance from the crossbar...i felt like a caged animal with these type of shots after the freedom of Pes 6...sucked big time for me wich was a shame because the midfield play and the passing was really competitive
 
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Ern Dog said:
If you would take the time to actually consider what I am saying you would realise that Konami have some of these instructions hard coded into the individual players, its what determines their behavior, its called Player ID. I am saying that I like this system because the players become caricatures of their real life counter parts.
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why do you want INSTRUCTIONS hard coded into players? INSTRUCTIONS are not part of a player's 'dna', its simply what the manager has instructed him to do :? do you think for example if a manager needed a goal scorer and wanted to buy rooney (because he is good at scoring) he would be like "rooney is good at scoring goals, but it is in his DNA to track back all the time... damn, no point in buying him then"... err no, he would just instruct rooney not to dorp back and play only to score goals :?


Ern Dog said:
Have you ever played PES ML? Have you seen some of the ridiculous stuff the CPU does with its team? That is why Fulham would do that!
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then that is a seperate issue of AI badly choosing their systems, not with what im saying

Ern Dog said:
Having the players attributes locked is fine for me because When I am playing against Berbatov I want him to behave like Berbatov, I do not want the game to decide for whatever reason that he is going to behave like Messi and start trying to run with the ball.
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berbatov only behaves certain ways because his manager tells him to. do you think he just constantly defies his managers instructions and plays how the feels like playing?

"sorry sir alex, i dont feel like doing that today, i'll just play how i'll normally play, because i'm berbatov, and thats what i do"

Ern Dog said:
This again is exactly my point, these instructions are locked in the players ID so they behave like they do in real life. I do not want the CPU manager seeing that Berbatov has great dribble accuracy and then deciding that for this game he will be running at people as if he were Messi.
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so you DONT want players to play to their strengths ? :?

in real life berbatov isnt great at dribbling past players, he is good at dribnling yes, but not at dribbling past playrs, because he is slow. if he was good at being dribbling like messi is then a manager would OBVIOUSLY use him that way... because that is his strength


Ern Dog said:
I never asked what stats determine if he is any good at holding up play. I said is there a stat that says that this player will hold up play, the answer is no it is an instruction.
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yes, behviour stats. a player like balotelli with low determination and work rate etc will not always follow instructions perfectly because he is a lazy asshole. , as a counter example, a player like Park will follow instructions very well.

Ern Dog said:
Changing this instruction will change the players personality. To me Berbatov holds up play, it is in his playing DNA, I do not want this turnt off.
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his 'dna' lol. if a manager told him never to hold up play, then he wouldnt (depending on his behvouir stats).

berbatov holds up play because thats according to his abilities. he is strong, tall, good balance, good close control and technique = he is good at hold up play.

if berbatov is good at finishing aswell, and the manager has inbrahimovic in his team to do the hold up play who is better at it, then the manager would instruct berbatov to not hold up play but to score goals instead. in your world, you think its better if thats not possble because its in his 'dna to hold up play :?

Ern Dog said:
Again I never asked what stats determine if he is any good at running with the ball, I asked if a specific stat dictates that he will preform this action and again the answer is no it is an instruction.
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behavoiur stats

Ern Dog said:
Berbatov does not run at 3 or 4 players with the ball, he prefers to hold it up and bring others into play. If he is given instructions to not hold up play and often run with the ball then to me that is not recreating Berbatov.
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Ern Dog said:
I dont think you are taking the time to understand my point of view.
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i understand. it just doesnt seem like you understand how football works or why there is a need for any instructions or a manager at all. just players with stats doing whatever they feel like because its in their blood LOL
 
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Lami said:
I think you're definitely on about the wrong game now. 2008 and balloon shots don't mix. They're quite powerful.

I'm starting to doubt some of you even touched that game now and only go off what other users post.

Anyway, it really looks like Adam is gone from that tweet. Who's going to take over though? Must be someone from within?
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He definitely has a taste for theatre and I'll be surprised if he goes anywhere. From what I recall he threw the toys out of the pram last year (concerning the run bug) and threatened to walk away.
 
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Ameppe said:
ehm

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it simply won't happen
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yay...i was afraid that they will remove the magic boots! now im calm and happy to play with diablo and with pes at the same time!
 
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lol, replied to Jon's tweet asking him when there would be news of the 2nd PC demo and also told him that they treated Adam very poorly, and he deleted it :P ;)
 
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I see things are getting desperate on here, people playing PES 2008/9/10 and others analysing Xbox commercials! Won't somebody end this madness? :P

...thinking a 2nd PC demo might help.
 
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Wilko22 said:
I see things are getting desperate on here, people playing PES 2008/9/10 and others analysing Xbox commercials! Won't somebody end this madness? :P

...thinking a 2nd PC demo might help.
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I was asking about 2009/10 demo because of the turf graphics quality has gone backwards imo :P
 
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@boot ads

:LOL:

Well that sort of confirms it then.

Or maybe it is realistic after all? ;)
 
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Lami said:
Or maybe it is realistic after all? ;)
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dun dun duun

*dramatic music*


Simcut said:
I was asking about 2009/10 demo because of the turf graphics quality has gone backwards imo :P
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Oh, the whole game has gone backwards graphically compared to 2010, I suspect the console frame-rate issues have something to do with this, they'd be likely be even worse if the game still looked that good.
 
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So Adams been completely canned by Konami and WENB?!

And where's the 2nd Demo for PC!
 
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goalgerd said:
how is me calling a fellow irish man by a term of affection being racist?
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:LOL: I couldnt place the damn accent. I'm south african so cant really comment on accents as we sound pretty crap ourselves ( sorry for being a racist :SHOCK:)

I must say though I found it intriguing and quite like it. Seems to be a mix between Irish and Jamaican
 
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zeemeister said:
:LOL: I couldnt place the damn accent. I'm south african so cant really comment on accents as we sound pretty crap ourselves ( sorry for being a racist :SHOCK:)

I must say though I found it intriguing and quite like it. Seems to be a mix between Irish and Jamaican
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its cork lol;)
 
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Ipswich69 said:
Agreed. Not to mention the HUGE shorts, Baywatch running animation and the sweet sound of the timeless classic, "I want to go, go for the goal, don't stand in my way, don't try to stop me I'm going ahead..."
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That tune was irritating to say the least.

But 2008 also had one of the best and catchiest songs I've heard in the whole franchise, one that went like: "I want to be a superstar..."
I wish I'd written that song :D
 
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zeemeister said:
:LOL: I couldnt place the damn accent. I'm south african so cant really comment on accents as we sound pretty crap ourselves ( sorry for being a racist :SHOCK:)

I must say though I found it intriguing and quite like it. Seems to be a mix between Irish and Jamaican
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True that! Here's me during the first minute of the clip.

"Jamaican? No wait... Irish! Wait what? Dafuq is he from?"

:P
 
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Maybe I'll stay away from PES 2008 tonight then after all :LOL:. Think I will get 2012 and get that patched up!
 
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off course 012 is worse than 08, 08 was poor but still pes(not playd much, online died out quickly)
012 is like controlling 40kg ballerinas with ice skates on their feet, fifa clone at the end of the day

the gap between demo 1 013 and 012 full is huge, HUGE
 
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Im quite looking forward to it tbh, I love Fable style games.
 
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ImpossibleYesbutitsTrue said:
off course 012 is worse than 08, 08 was poor but still pes(not playd much, online died out quickly)
012 is like controlling 40kg ballerinas with ice skates on their feet, fifa clone at the end of the day

the gap between demo 1 013 and 012 full is huge, HUGE
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Not a chance !! How much of 2012 have you played? PC/ PS3 / Xbox proper copy or patch please explain this cos my brain is short circuiting :COAT:
 
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