Re: PES 2013 Discussion Thread .......
The feeling while playing the demo of PES 2013 is much better than in PES 2012, the dribbling, the passing, the individuality of players... it works... for 2/3 of the pitch that is.
The last part of the pitch, near and inside the goal-area the feeling breaks down. Your teammembers move in 9/10 cases in the wrong way or stay static when they should move or even stumble into yourself...
And the CPU-defenders intercept balls and automatically block shots like they are superhuman.
Interestingly your defenders on the other side don't do that or very rarely.
The demo is full of cheats on top-player. Only 1 in five goals are deserved goals, the others only happen because of cheating.
Buffon, one of the best goalkeepers in the world, suddenly turns into a lamb, spilling balls, of course, into the legs of the single opponent striker in the midst of my three defenders. It would be ok, if it happened once in a few matches, but it happened in every match at least once if not more.
The goalkeeper comes out of his line to get into a 1-1-situation which is good, the ball gets parried by him, which is ok in that situation, the ball comes to another attacker who tries a lob into the goal. Luckily Pirlo stands there and he easily stops the ball with his chest, and he wants to shoot it away. I thought great, he perfectly trapped the ball with his chest, but what happens?
While he traps the ball with the chest and prepares to shoot it away, Buffon runs right into him, trying to get to the ball. Wtf?! But does he simply grab the ball in mid-air with his hands? No! He collides with Pirlo, the ball gets reflected between them and leaves them to the left, to the one opponent striker who shoots it in.
The goalkeepers are just as awful as last year, yes, they are more intelligent, more competent, they react quicker... all of that is right, but when the cheating kicks in it's back to the old problems of bad positioning, dumb decisions, spilling easy balls, colliding with your own players...
and the ball's physics are also worked into that cheating to direct, deflect, reflect balls to the opponent strikers.
But that is far from everything that happens:
Have you seen the attacking of the CPU? How Welbeck from England moves in front to prepare himself for a throughball, he weaves right, he weaves left to get space between him and my defenders, at the right moment he starts his run and bends it to stay onside as much as possible... I'm amazed at that movement and precision, but look how my own attackers move:
Often they run straight into offside and take a lot of time to get out of it, they stay close to their defenders, not trying to gain space or they move in such a way to put a defender between them and the passer or they stay static. There is a world of difference between the movement of my strikers and that of the CPU.
And you wouldn't guess what the CPU striker sometimes does to get through my defense, he does all the tricks with pushing the ball to the side or to push it in front of him and run onto it, which is ok or he makes this little side-dribbles which my defenders often can't handle, but that is ok too. But what if I control my defenders so well that these little tricks don't work?
There is another trick he then does and against that I can't do anything:
He simply plays the ball to my defender. Yes, he plays the ball to my defender's legs... from which it reflects back to the CPU-striker and he gains space and shoots into goal.
Try that on the other side, never works there.
When I'm inside the CPU's goal-area and dribbling slowly to keep the ball under control, the CPU simply fouls me. They try to go for the ball but because I dribble well I can easily outstep their attempt to get to the ball, but does that stop them? No they simply go for the ball regardless of my dribbling, they simply hit my attacker's leg that is between the ball and hit the ball away that way. But do I get a penalty? No, it seems standing-tackles-fouls are not seen by the referree, he only grants me a penalty when a sliding-foul happens.
And when I shoot, the CPU-goalkeeper parries the ball, but does he parry the ball back into play? No, he nearly always parries the ball either into the out or to his defenders. That's how it should be in most cases, but my goalkeeper seems to not know that.
If Konami doesn't rein in the cheating, the cheating ballphysics, the stat-boosts for the CPU and especially the stats-decrease for my team, playing singleplayer on consoles on top-player or above will be just as frustrating as last year.