PES 2012 Discussion Thread .......

I didn't score a single free kick in 2011. This year I've scored about 40.
I'm using West Brom fairly exclusively now and the free kick takers vary depending on the range. If it's 18 - 25 yards out, Peter Odemwingie steps up to curl it over the wall. Anything further out gets taken by either Gera, Morrisson, Dorrans or Brunt. These players can drive the ball from distance.
I've also has some lovely free kicks scored against me in PEEL which have taken my breath away. Sometimes putting up 'nice shot' doesn't do them justice.
Steven Pinnear for South Africa is another FK specialist. Scored some crucial ones with him. Loving FK's this year.
 
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That's strange, I don't feel the FK's have changed at all in a good few years. The only real difference has been the level of power required from the varying distances. That changes every year to mix it up and keep you on your toes. It's probably the strongest part of my PES game, I just love Free-Kicks. :)
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
That's strange, I don't feel the FK's have changed at all in a good few years. The only real difference has been the level of power required from the varying distances. That changes every year to mix it up and keep you on your toes. It's probably the strongest part of my PES game, I just love Free-Kicks. :)
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It was just me that was rubbish at them before.
 
I've always enjoyed them too, and had plenty of success with them since my return to PES. Free kicks from the edge of the box last year were far too easy. Almost a free goal. I feel free kicks in other positions are marginally easier this year, but harder from that 20 yard sweet spot.
 
romagnoli said:
I've always enjoyed them too, and had plenty of success with them since my return to PES. Free kicks from the edge of the box last year were far too easy. Almost a free goal. I feel free kicks in other positions are marginally easier this year, but harder from that 20 yard sweet spot.
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It's the 22-24 meter 'trouble-spot' for me. It's from that range I get caught between the Floater (Push Down on Pad) style FK, or the Mid-range(Leave pad central) offering. It then depends more on not only the players FK stance, but also his Shooting Power. Petrov has high power, which means he can still reach the goal without it dipping too early. My other option is Williams who owns the Beckham stance, which, by design is an up-and-over style approach.

makky said:
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It was just me that was rubbish at them before.
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Maybe it just took two years to click Makky. :CONFUSE::)
 
Jimmy G-Force said:
It's the 22-24 meter 'trouble-spot' for me. It's from that range I get caught between the Floater (Push Down on Pad) style FK, or the Mid-range(Leave pad central) offering. It then depends more on not only the players FK stance, but also his Shooting Power. Petrov has high power, which means he can still reach the goal without it dipping too early. My other option is Williams who owns the Beckham stance, which, by design is an up-and-over style approach.



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Maybe it just took two years to click Makky. :CONFUSE::)
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Ha ha more like 15 years Jimmy.
That range is probably my favourite and I nearly always apply the up and over style technique, with the analogue stick.
 
If you ever looking for a player that can hit them from range and close up try Belhanda from Montpellier the guy is my star he plays anywhere from midfield to striker less DMF but if needs be he can put in a tackle - the complete player, check him out.
 
How do u score differant free kicks, such as drilled in free kicks, curling and floating. i only know how to do normal free kicks. ???
 
Oops messed that post up.
It is a video showing a memorable goal on PES. This is on Professional, 0 pass assistance. West Brom v Blackburn in the league. The way Zoltan took it first time was sublime.

Can anyone help me with posting the actual video and not just the link please? It would be greatly appreciated.
 
AntrAcsA said:
It's really hard to say what you want to show , whit this 1 frame per 2 sec , but I will use me imagination to interpret. Is it was high pass + loop shot ? Just a guess...
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http://youtu.be/bbI-HDfO8vM
Here it is again with a slightly better frame rate.
What's on show here is pure quality backed up by an impressive AI.
There was absolutely no guesswork involved here whatsoever. Zoltan Gera started the move then made the instinctive run forward. I didn't set him on it (which I like to do from time to time), this was all AI.
James Morrisson showed some lovely skill and technique, both in control and the weight of the clipped overhead through ball. 0 assistance as well.
I knew Gera had made that run and I knew this goal was on believe me.
The ball does bounce slightly in front of him, so it's a half volley over the despairing keeper. I usually play Gera on the wing or in an AMF position, but on this occasion played him as a SS.
I'm guessing here but I reckon if you scored a goal like that you would be out of your seat like I was.
 
Suarez x7 said:
How do u score differant free kicks, such as drilled in free kicks, curling and floating. i only know how to do normal free kicks. ???
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Here a three different free kicks by the specialist Christiano Ronaldo.
http://youtu.be/uEfv3OqTmZE
This first one is definitely a drilled FK, struck with plenty of power and pace with plenty of bend on it.
http://youtu.be/qxqX9oy5Npc
The second one is similar, but doesn't have the same venom as the first. The trajectory of the ball shows you that, as it dips more towards the goal.
http://youtu.be/9vqmgXC4RUI
This one is the best out of the three. It's in that zone mentioned earlier, so requires a lot less power but utilises the up and over style.
Even though the pace was taken off this one and the shot still curves and dips, the trajectory remains which is why it goes so high in the goal.
 
nice goals, but how did u score them, u only showed me evidence that u scored differant free-kicks but what buttons did u press for each free kick lol :]
 
Suarez x7 said:
nice goals, but how did u score them, u only showed me evidence that u scored differant free-kicks but what buttons did u press for each free kick lol :]
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Sorry Suarez. I don't even know how I score them myself lol.
Each range obviously differentiates the power requirement. Sometimes I bend the analogue stick after the FK is taken but mostly go up and over.
Hit the power bar, taking the range into consideration, then press up on the analogue stick followed by quickly pressing down to get it up and over the wall. The timing of the analogue movement is more important than the pace in which the shot is hit but both are vital in PES 2012.
 
This game is an absolute masterpiece!

After reading a lot of Jimmys posts this week I decided that either he was smoking something pretty incredible or I was missing out on something pretty incredible. I gave 1.03 another go and nearly everything I disliked about the previous versions was gone. Now that the game was playable for more than 5 mins I had a few long sessions, towards the end of the first one I started to feel that there is something deeper going on.
I have just finished a 5 hour play and totalled around 10 hours the last few days, it’s starting to become apparent how amazing this game is.
The game is HARD, it reminds me of PES5 in that both are very different to the previous game and require time and patience to adjust. I am really struggling to score, I played 8 games in ML with the default team and lost 7 scoring only 4 goals along the way. At first I thought it was impossible to break into the box and get a shot off but as I learn more things are starting to open up. I have started to really slow things down, I am stopping the ball and waiting for angles to open up and I am taking on players more than I ever did. I have had to change the way I play quite a bit.
Another thing that adds to the difficulty is that things seem to be a lot more manual now, I don’t mean passing but player positioning. I am using the right stick to position a player or get him to track a run or press the ball carrier, when he is doing what I want I switch to another player leaving the AI in charge of that action. You really have to trust the AI in this game, initially I thought it was terrible but when you point it in the right direction it’s very capable. I don’t know if this is deliberate from Konami but its very rewarding and a step forward in giving the player more control over the whole team, not just one man.

The thing that opened my eyes to the depth of the game and what hooked me was the control you have on the ball. For some reason I started to use slight presses of the stick and I began to notice new animations, the stuff you can do with R2 and these slight touches is amazing. This has transformed what initially felt like a stiff, clumsy and awkward dribbling system into a very fluid and intuitive one. Some of the stuff I have been doing with players like Maqualau is brilliant, dragging the ball about, knocking it from foot to foot and I am yet to touch the right stick! I have seen people say that you can’t beat a man in this game, well you can and it is a joy. Wrong footing players and using their momentum against them have given me many laughs tonight, I cannot believe how much I am enjoying this game and I have only just scratched the surface.

The passing game is brilliant. I am finding myself pressing the stick slightly more in the required direction for some passes in an effort to get the player to use a certain foot, sacrificing the absolute precision of the pass for the certainty of getting the ball into an area. For example having a right footed player playing a pass about 45 degrees to his right, in situation that will not allow him to open his body. Instead of relying on an untrustworthy left peg I will aim it slightly more than the 45 degrees so he uses the outside of his right boot(hope that makes sense). I have never found myself thinking like this before and even if I did I’m not sure it would work.

I could go on but it’s already a long post and its 2:23am and I need to wake up early tomorrow to call in sick so I can play PES all day :P. I strongly urge all the guys that dislike the game to give 1.03 another chance.
 
Ern Dog said:
This game is an absolute masterpiece!

After reading a lot of Jimmys posts this week I decided that either he was smoking something pretty incredible or I was missing out on something pretty incredible. I gave 1.03 another go and nearly everything I disliked about the previous versions was gone. Now that the game was playable for more than 5 mins I had a few long sessions, towards the end of the first one I started to feel that there is something deeper going on.
I have just finished a 5 hour play and totalled around 10 hours the last few days, it’s starting to become apparent how amazing this game is.
The game is HARD, it reminds me of PES5 in that both are very different to the previous game and require time and patience to adjust. I am really struggling to score, I played 8 games in ML with the default team and lost 7 scoring only 4 goals along the way. At first I thought it was impossible to break into the box and get a shot off but as I learn more things are starting to open up. I have started to really slow things down, I am stopping the ball and waiting for angles to open up and I am taking on players more than I ever did. I have had to change the way I play quite a bit.
Another thing that adds to the difficulty is that things seem to be a lot more manual now, I don’t mean passing but player positioning. I am using the right stick to position a player or get him to track a run or press the ball carrier, when he is doing what I want I switch to another player leaving the AI in charge of that action. You really have to trust the AI in this game, initially I thought it was terrible but when you point it in the right direction it’s very capable. I don’t know if this is deliberate from Konami but its very rewarding and a step forward in giving the player more control over the whole team, not just one man.

The thing that opened my eyes to the depth of the game and what hooked me was the control you have on the ball. For some reason I started to use slight presses of the stick and I began to notice new animations, the stuff you can do with R2 and these slight touches is amazing. This has transformed what initially felt like a stiff, clumsy and awkward dribbling system into a very fluid and intuitive one. Some of the stuff I have been doing with players like Maqualau is brilliant, dragging the ball about, knocking it from foot to foot and I am yet to touch the right stick! I have seen people say that you can’t beat a man in this game, well you can and it is a joy. Wrong footing players and using their momentum against them have given me many laughs tonight, I cannot believe how much I am enjoying this game and I have only just scratched the surface.

The passing game is brilliant. I am finding myself pressing the stick slightly more in the required direction for some passes in an effort to get the player to use a certain foot, sacrificing the absolute precision of the pass for the certainty of getting the ball into an area. For example having a right footed player playing a pass about 45 degrees to his right, in situation that will not allow him to open his body. Instead of relying on an untrustworthy left peg I will aim it slightly more than the 45 degrees so he uses the outside of his right boot(hope that makes sense). I have never found myself thinking like this before and even if I did I’m not sure it would work.

I could go on but it’s already a long post and its 2:23am and I need to wake up early tomorrow to call in sick so I can play PES all day :P. I strongly urge all the guys that dislike the game to give 1.03 another chance.
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Hey, best of luck with your ML! The goals will come in bunches, you'll see...
 
Ern Dog said:
This game is an absolute masterpiece!

After reading a lot of Jimmys posts this week I decided that either he was smoking something pretty incredible or I was missing out on something pretty incredible. I gave 1.03 another go and nearly everything I disliked about the previous versions was gone. Now that the game was playable for more than 5 mins I had a few long sessions, towards the end of the first one I started to feel that there is something deeper going on.
I have just finished a 5 hour play and totalled around 10 hours the last few days, it’s starting to become apparent how amazing this game is.
The game is HARD, it reminds me of PES5 in that both are very different to the previous game and require time and patience to adjust. I am really struggling to score, I played 8 games in ML with the default team and lost 7 scoring only 4 goals along the way. At first I thought it was impossible to break into the box and get a shot off but as I learn more things are starting to open up. I have started to really slow things down, I am stopping the ball and waiting for angles to open up and I am taking on players more than I ever did. I have had to change the way I play quite a bit.
Another thing that adds to the difficulty is that things seem to be a lot more manual now, I don’t mean passing but player positioning. I am using the right stick to position a player or get him to track a run or press the ball carrier, when he is doing what I want I switch to another player leaving the AI in charge of that action. You really have to trust the AI in this game, initially I thought it was terrible but when you point it in the right direction it’s very capable. I don’t know if this is deliberate from Konami but its very rewarding and a step forward in giving the player more control over the whole team, not just one man.

The thing that opened my eyes to the depth of the game and what hooked me was the control you have on the ball. For some reason I started to use slight presses of the stick and I began to notice new animations, the stuff you can do with R2 and these slight touches is amazing. This has transformed what initially felt like a stiff, clumsy and awkward dribbling system into a very fluid and intuitive one. Some of the stuff I have been doing with players like Maqualau is brilliant, dragging the ball about, knocking it from foot to foot and I am yet to touch the right stick! I have seen people say that you can’t beat a man in this game, well you can and it is a joy. Wrong footing players and using their momentum against them have given me many laughs tonight, I cannot believe how much I am enjoying this game and I have only just scratched the surface.

The passing game is brilliant. I am finding myself pressing the stick slightly more in the required direction for some passes in an effort to get the player to use a certain foot, sacrificing the absolute precision of the pass for the certainty of getting the ball into an area. For example having a right footed player playing a pass about 45 degrees to his right, in situation that will not allow him to open his body. Instead of relying on an untrustworthy left peg I will aim it slightly more than the 45 degrees so he uses the outside of his right boot(hope that makes sense). I have never found myself thinking like this before and even if I did I’m not sure it would work.

I could go on but it’s already a long post and its 2:23am and I need to wake up early tomorrow to call in sick so I can play PES all day :P. I strongly urge all the guys that dislike the game to give 1.03 another chance.
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D-pad is very essential for free kicks. Analogue will take you nowhere. I am enjoying the placing type of free kicks at the different angles. However, the strong-shooting type of free kicks, the Drogba and Gerrard ones, does click yet for me. May be they are playable only from long distance.

One of the side benefits of free kicks training is the finishing of loose floating ball. Usually the ball comes back floating from either the goal keeper or the wall. If you take the right position and using R2 before and while shooting, the shot will always be awesome resulting in thrilling goals.
 
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I'm back to PES 2011 guys, and I must say I have missed it. CPU possession, CPU build up play, and just the feeling of simulation has me convinced once more that 2012 is too arcade for my liking. Good luck on 12 though peeps!
 
Interesting discussion gear up in another PES site.
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I am inclined to agree with such statistics because I have two PES site and visits and popularity the game definitely goes to the bottom.

I think of konam should not underestimate this fact, PES 2013 will be perhaps the key to the future of the entire series. From konam can not afford another loss, another loss of customers.
 
The Gestapo are out in force on 'the other' PES forum, apparently freedom of speech on a forum is not allowed, especially if you're not singing the praises of 2012, and kissing community members arses. Sad stuff.
 
Suarez x7 said:
How do u score differant free kicks, such as drilled in free kicks, curling and floating. i only know how to do normal free kicks. ???
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FK's from close-range, 17 metres to 21 metres. (The Floater)

As your FK-taker is stood behind the ball facing goal, adjust your aim. Aim slightly to the left or right of the target to give you room to bend it in. Hold down on the D-Pad. Press Shoot for power. Hold to 1/2 power on the bar. Push left or right on the D-Pad depending on which way you wish to curl it as your player runs up to the ball to address the strike. The more you hold left/right the more it will curl, (Stats/Player relevant). If you get the power wrong on the run-up, i.e, too much. Hold X to Dip the ball.

YouTube - Petrov Close Range FK





FK's from Mid-Range, 21 metres to 28. (The Standard FK)


This FK will not give you as much height as 'The Floater', and it won't be drilled like the 'Power FK', it's a mixture of both. This time, leave the D-Pad central, so don't push down or up. Follow the same principles as the above, hold left/right for the bend, adding X to Dip if required.

YouTube - Perfect Petrov Freekick


FK's from Long-Range, 28 metres to 40 metres. (The Power FK)


This time, when you player is behind the ball and before you press Shoot, hold the D-Pad Up or towards the goal. This will give you the power. Same principles as before with the bend and dip. Depending on the player, and the fact your looking to opt for power over precision, you will have less time to bend the ball for the most part. So be aware of that from the initial aim.

YouTube - Carlos Martins FK



These are the 3 main striking options with FK's, what adds so much more to the variables, are all the different FK stances that are available to the players. Some stances suit the different techniques. For example, the 'Roberto Carlos stance, is suited only for 'Long-Range' efforts, it's worthless from close-range due to the aggressive nature of the strike. There is little time to get the ball up and over the wall from close-range. On the other hand, the Beckham style stance, will suit most distances, but is better from close to medium range.

Now add to this the player statistics, and you have another plethora of variables added into the mix. For example, players with high Shooting Power, may be able to pull off a 'Floater' style FK from outside the recommeded ranges. Such as a 23 meter 'Floater'. The same applies with the players statistics based around 'Swerve'.

My best advice is to find a player in your team with the best stats for FK's, and also the best stance for the relevant distances. Practice with him to you get a good feel for him and his range and style. This isn't a one cap fits all. I can be brilliant with Petrov, but give me a player I'm not familiar with, and I'll struggle initially until I find his range.

(Now Suarez, I forgot to get you a photo of my formations again last night, but this should make up for it and buy me more time ;) )
 
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Ern Dog said:
This game is an absolute masterpiece!

After reading a lot of Jimmys posts this week I decided that either he was smoking something pretty incredible or I was missing out on something pretty incredible. I gave 1.03 another go and nearly everything I disliked about the previous versions was gone. Now that the game was playable for more than 5 mins I had a few long sessions, towards the end of the first one I started to feel that there is something deeper going on.
I have just finished a 5 hour play and totalled around 10 hours the last few days, it’s starting to become apparent how amazing this game is.
The game is HARD, it reminds me of PES5 in that both are very different to the previous game and require time and patience to adjust. I am really struggling to score, I played 8 games in ML with the default team and lost 7 scoring only 4 goals along the way. At first I thought it was impossible to break into the box and get a shot off but as I learn more things are starting to open up. I have started to really slow things down, I am stopping the ball and waiting for angles to open up and I am taking on players more than I ever did. I have had to change the way I play quite a bit.
Another thing that adds to the difficulty is that things seem to be a lot more manual now, I don’t mean passing but player positioning. I am using the right stick to position a player or get him to track a run or press the ball carrier, when he is doing what I want I switch to another player leaving the AI in charge of that action. You really have to trust the AI in this game, initially I thought it was terrible but when you point it in the right direction it’s very capable. I don’t know if this is deliberate from Konami but its very rewarding and a step forward in giving the player more control over the whole team, not just one man.

The thing that opened my eyes to the depth of the game and what hooked me was the control you have on the ball. For some reason I started to use slight presses of the stick and I began to notice new animations, the stuff you can do with R2 and these slight touches is amazing. This has transformed what initially felt like a stiff, clumsy and awkward dribbling system into a very fluid and intuitive one. Some of the stuff I have been doing with players like Maqualau is brilliant, dragging the ball about, knocking it from foot to foot and I am yet to touch the right stick! I have seen people say that you can’t beat a man in this game, well you can and it is a joy. Wrong footing players and using their momentum against them have given me many laughs tonight, I cannot believe how much I am enjoying this game and I have only just scratched the surface.

The passing game is brilliant. I am finding myself pressing the stick slightly more in the required direction for some passes in an effort to get the player to use a certain foot, sacrificing the absolute precision of the pass for the certainty of getting the ball into an area. For example having a right footed player playing a pass about 45 degrees to his right, in situation that will not allow him to open his body. Instead of relying on an untrustworthy left peg I will aim it slightly more than the 45 degrees so he uses the outside of his right boot(hope that makes sense). I have never found myself thinking like this before and even if I did I’m not sure it would work.

I could go on but it’s already a long post and its 2:23am and I need to wake up early tomorrow to call in sick so I can play PES all day :P. I strongly urge all the guys that dislike the game to give 1.03 another chance.
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It's great to read things are starting to click Tom, and I'll tell you now, the further you dig, the deeper it gets, so stick with it.

I stand by what I've said, the deepest PES titles are the ones the make you re-learn how to play it. And this game does just that, and not only does it do that, it does it by making you adhere strictly to fundamentals. There are no cheap glitches, there are no cheats, you earn the right to achieve, or at least you do on Zero Assists. Which is how this simulation was designed to be played.

Are you using Zero Pass Assistance by the way ? If so, your certainly jumping in right at the deep end with regards the 'Default Players, so kudos to you for that. Also, if you are on 'Zero', you will need to use R2 and X for a more controlled deliberate short pass with lesser players, especially those initiated near the edge of the pitch.

This game was billed with the 'tagline', Active A.i, that's exactly what this game is all about. Forget the sprint button, leave that for defending or for when there is clear open space to exploit, like a 'counter'. The sprint button does more harm than good for all the reasons I've mentioned. Football isn't about sprinting, it's about control (R2) and technique, so adhere to that and you'll be fine.

The thing is, in past PES titles, you pass, pass, pass, shoot. This isnt like that now, you need to earn the right to create an opening. You need to use this quite brilliant Active A.I, and sprinting will not help you here. The way this works is quite simple, don't panic when in control of the ball, don't look to offload a pass immediately. If there isn't an option, hold onto the ball, draw the opposition CPU to you, then hold R2 and push in the opposition direction to keep the ball close and turn. Now when you look up, the options that were not there before, now are. The landscape changes in front of you within seconds, so hold onto the ball, be patient, and wait for it to happen. This is Active A.I., use it.

I leave the rest for the Football Life thread for now ..........
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
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It's great to read things are starting to click Tom, and I'll tell you now, the further you dig, the deeper it gets, so stick with it.

I stand by what I've said, the deepest PES titles are the ones the make you re-learn how to play it. And this game does just that, and not only does it do that, it does it by making you adhere strictly to fundamentals. There are no cheap glitches, there are no cheats, you earn the right to achieve, or at least you do on Zero Assists. Which is how this simulation was designed to be played.

Are you using Zero Pass Assistance by the way ? If so, your certainly jumping in right at the deep end with regards the 'Default Players, so kudos to you for that. Also, if you are on 'Zero', you will need to use R2 and X for a more controlled deliberate short pass with lesser players, especially those initiated near the edge of the pitch.

This game was billed with the 'tagline', Active A.i, that's exactly what this game is all about. Forget the sprint button, leave that for defending or for when there is clear open space to exploit, like a 'counter'. The sprint button does more harm than good for all the reasons I've mentioned. Football isn't about sprinting, it's about control (R2) and technique, so adhere to that and you'll be fine.

The thing is, in past PES titles, you pass, pass, pass, shoot. This isnt like that now, you need to earn the right to create an opening. You need to use this quite brilliant Active A.I, and sprinting will not help you here. The way this works is quite simple, don't panic when in control of the ball, don't look to offload a pass immediately. If there isn't an option, hold onto the ball, draw the opposition CPU to you, then hold R2 and push in the opposition direction to keep the ball close and turn. Now when you look up, the options that were not there before, now are. The landscape changes in front of you within seconds, so hold onto the ball, be patient, and wait for it to happen. This is Active A.I., use it.

I leave the rest for the Football Life thread for now ..........
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Yes you do all that and then the CPU boots the ball to a lone forward who then dribbles round your entire defence as if they don't exist and then scores.
 
Evil Heat said:
Yes you do all that and then the CPU boots the ball to a lone forward who then dribbles round your entire defence as if they don't exist and then scores.
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I lolled.

This is the problem with the game. I think if you go on professional level and perhaps zero assist and persevere forever with it, you can get something out of the game. For me, the CPU's inability to keep hold of the ball for five minutes and the feeling that I was playing the same counter attack game over and over made me go back to PES 2011. I'll say one thing, PES 2012 made me a better defender lol, conceded only a few goals in about 4 games on 2011!
 
Jimmy and co thanks a lot for the brilliant informative posts. I really like what I see. Some people are mastering the game and making the best out of it.

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Do you think R2 does the short free kicks any good?





 
Platini said:
D-pad is very essential for free kicks. Analogue will take you nowhere. I am enjoying the placing type of free kicks at the different angles. However, the strong-shooting type of free kicks, the Drogba and Gerrard ones, does click yet for me. May be they are playable only from long distance.

One of the side benefits of free kicks training is the finishing of loose floating ball. Usually the ball comes back floating from either the goal keeper or the wall. If you take the right position and using R2 before and while shooting, the shot will always be awesome resulting in thrilling goals.
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That's strange because I always use the analogue stick for free kicks.
The above link shows Chris Brunt pinging one from distance 33 yards. The swerve and the up and down movement of the ball is all analogue. On this occasion it is saved, but was heading for the top corner.
Check out the Fortune' piledriver that's on there as well.
 
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