On the contrary Klash, everyone does work together, that's why the game is becoming something playable at last! A thousand pages of gameplay patches will attest to that.
Not really it's that attention seeker yair, who released patches constantly because, he needs people to talk about him. I'm sorry it's like he plays one game, notice's something he don't like then changes is even if it requires just a change of tactics or for him to understand it better.
Jenky is much better since he dosen't seem to have insecurities about not having attention. For crying out load it's a game!
The point being me, the consumer, shouldn't HAVE to spend hours and hours and hours getting teams to play like they do IRL.
First question.
What game has ever provided by default teams playing exactly how they do in real life?No football game has and ever will. All Konami do is give them a basic set up in formation and playing style to how they do in real life and that's it. You cannot expect football programmers to know every little detail about every single team they put on the game. mainly because like with Inter, and Sunderland etc.. over a season, certain teams sack their managers and totally change their philosophy.
Like West Brom last Year, played passing, attacking football under Di Matteo, he was sacked, now Hodgson takes a more cautious defensive counter attack approach. See
Take Barca. They play passing football, they play 4-3-3, that's it! That's all Konami have put down, that's all they should put down because we can't have an unbalanced game where Barca get everything set up for them with so much effort and other teams get nothing.
I mean can you please tell me how SC Ohlanense play? Or how Sparta Rottendam play? or Hadjuk Split? You expect one guy to know everything about every single team in the game? I mean it's not exactly like every single team is on TV every week.
Second question.
How much do you want to see teams play like they do in real life or do you just want every team to play the same way but give you a hard game?
Some people don't even realize there's differences between teams, they 'expect' every team to play the same or even expect every team to do something, like for example play slow buildup. Even if it's Stoke. these are also people who moan about scripting what the CPU simply changes tactics when losing or winning. Not aware enough to know whats going on.
Last question.
Do you want to play against teams like Stoke who hoof it? African teams with mad high lines and just run at you all the time? Portuguese teams who sit back and counter with fast wingers and a target man? Some people aren't ready for realsim even though they demand it.
And in the majority of cases, the vast majority, the tactics at the higher levels really don't make a difference anyway. The CPU will still try to dribble as directly as possible using reflex skills that the human player doesn't, and will almost always adopt the counter attack policy with un-erring precision.
Well it does, i've not bothered to use any patches on the PC and i've been able to stop teams using tactics, just close down their options and don't just run up to players and expect to tackle them with ease.
Only team i have trouble against is Barca with my tactics set up.
Realism does not fit into certain peoples own fantasies. There's what happens in real life and how it's mirrored ingame. If you want it in the first place anyway.
Take it to the nth degree Klash; what you seem to be saying is that KONAMI just need to make 'a game', a leave everything else blank, and we just make players, faces, stats, formations etc etc?!?
This is very strange question. your saying i expect Konami to do nothing and we do everything. As literally blank faces, kits, players for all teams?
Or what i' saying is Konami do enough. But if your not happy with the level of realism Konami has set, and it's possible to do it yourself. Why not? Since Konami have actually not just provided a very good game, but the tools to enhance it to our preference.
If Konami had done nothing, that's fine, if konami where like they where back in 2006-2009, not bothering putting any serious effort into their game, fine, but they are trying with a clearly limited budget and they have done a very good job this year.
It's a video game. I accept Konami just ain't got the money to make anything super special anymore. Look at their other titles, says all you need to know! Video games shouldn't be an important part of peoples lives, just something fun to do now and again.
That's just ridiculous. Why isn't there somebody on the KONAMI team that is held responsible for this very role. Stats and formations and playing styles are probably the most important facet of the game. But it shouldn't be left to the person in the street who has just shelled out £40 to put right should it?
Well look at what FIFA has been doing with members of it's community being database researches. How is that any different to what happens with PES? really and look how much money EA have and that's the best they can do
There should be a guy in charge, or a team, of getting all this stuff accurate. You'll have disputes obviously, but the point here is that I know more about football and probably watch more football worldwide than KONAMI. So do most posters here. Why can't they get the extreme teams right for example? Why in 2012, can they not make Barcelona play like Barcelona, out of the box? Why can't ANY team keep the ball and pass it about for more than five seconds of game time?
You need to take into consideration. How many different teams there are in the world, how many different playing styles and how each individual players within each team depending on is tactics. Oh, should we just work on Barca, or try and provide as much tools as possible so whatever new tactic emerges can be replicated in the game.
Konami could work hard and develop a precise tactic for one team, then again, how many people playing the game are looking for this anyway? FIFA players have been doing this since 2009 with Custom tactics, they make fuck all difference but they still persist which i actually admire them for. PES players expect his to be done by magic. but yet moan and moan about no enough realism.
The other day I conceded a headed goal to one of the games scripted lofted wing through balls, so I put defensive line lower and compactness more outwards so that the right back couldn't be prone to it...three headed goals more later, and I was still scratching my head as to how to counter something that just couldn't be countered. As soon as the lofted through balls were coming in STILL my full backs were letting it go, for another cross for the CPU player to score a header as my CB's ran completely the other way!
This isn't much different to me yesterday and after 5 minutes i wondered why the fuck Fulham where dominating when they where playing 4-4-2 compared to my 4-3-2-1, How i set players to man mark, it made little difference. I then set players to play a high line, set offside trap auto on, and put pressure up high so when Kasami and Murphy picked it up from deep i hassled the ball off them.
I won 3-1 btw
You say you dropped your team back and expanded the compactivness.
Well you should know playing a deep line, invites the opposition to attack. So you run the risk of their crosses being scored.
Stop their midfield working and they won't get into crossing positions in the first place, that's what i did yesterday!
Scripts? Well, maybe I'm mistaken, this is a dumb video game, video games and the AI is fundamentally fucking stupid. it cannot form intelligent decisions on the fly depending on what it perceives.
Football is a game based so much on perception, considering a computer cannot see, it's just programmed to react to 'set' situations. Why expect the defence to do most the work for you?
it just responds to programming commands. I expect stupidness from AI, i expect shit out of my hand to happen. it's a dumb game, games should be easy because if your handle them tactically they can't adjust.
Nice goal. 
Awesome night's, Bass Generator had a great event going there. Loved them, crazy atmosphere.