Was at a friends playing PES the other night and he has an older Samsung Plasma to my newer Sammy Plasma and i swear to go it was like playing a totally different game, it was very slow and unresponsive with strange things happening all the time.
I think it's a case of the PS2 engine still being used which is supposed to be for 4:3 crt tv's and very low res.
I'm having the ultimate football experience at the moment, in ALL my years of PES-ing. I think I have finally found my PES utopia settings.
This is what I have tried so far, you may think I am insane lol
1) Bought US version of PES, played it on PS3, 50" plasma. Experimented with patches, settings, player cameras, gamespeeds etc etc. Looked beautiful, but something missing.
2) PC version bought, tried everything, settings, patches, Jenkey's, PESEDIT, all the same thing again. Again looked absolutely stunning on the PC but lots of issues. Never felt in control and always felt like battling the controller, game engine, players constantly locked into things on the lower gamespeeds.
3) Tried PS3 on 37" LCD, pre-patch mainly, component cable, as this tv didn't have HDMI. Game ran wonderfully arcadey, really having a blast but on gamespeed 0 was too fast and gamespeed -1 things just broke.
4) FINALLY - after a month with literally changing every fkin setting, across a plethora of platforms, patches, edits, etc etc I have this
32" Samsung, PS3, HDMI. Pre-patch, Top Player, Wide Cam, 20 mins, gamespeed +1....
YES THAT'S RIGHT, sounds insane doesn't it gamespeed +1, but trust me on this weh I say it is incredible. On this setup this gamespeed probably sits between a normal 0 and -1, without having the juddery stupid breakage in animations of -1 and yet toning down the speed on 0. IT IS PERFECT for me. Games are playing at a stunning pace, some lovely build up play with just about the right amount of CPU pressure so as to not take the piss in possession, and some lovely countering at pace because defensive lines are realistic.
My last three games have been pure sim. Won one-nil v Newcastle, then won 2-1 at Swansea after going a goal down. Swansea played some lovely possession football as they do IRL. With this current setup I feel totally in control, combined with the perfect gamespeed for me II now have the response of the players, but not too responsiveness like my 50" setup if that makes sense. It's kind of like playing an old gen PES combined with the technical element of PES2011, it's a wicked combo. Suarez has really become god for me, his feet and movement are wonderful and the gameplay and physics all seem perfect for me. I'm playing some football that I hadn't previously put it that way. I'm also seeing lots more subtle animations than ever before and the shooting feels more like an old PES game. Henderson hit a lovely low volley which had PES5 written all over it.
Here are the two Swansea goals, the first was a stunning raking manual through ball with Carroll's touch exquisite wrong footing the oncoming keeper, just stunning stuff in real time. I rarely 'go long' but this time I saw Carroll out of the corner of my eye neck and neck with their last man and gave it a go.
1)
YouTube - VIDEO0039
The second goal was more generic, but an emphatic Carroll finish nevertheless. Suarez's close control and balance and slight deviation at the last minute from goal gave Carroll that split second more to fire in the shot.
2)
YouTube - VIDEO0040
The game against Man City was another brilliant sim-like affair. 3-2 to me after the twice went ahead. Suarez again influential for me whilst Silva was the main threat for them even them Dzeko scored their two goals, Silva was a constant threat.
Here was the game details from the City game, the Swansea game was 55%-45% possession to me, check this out.
Liverpool v Man City
3-2 Goals scored
2-2 Assists
(7)11-14(8) Shots on target
(5)3-5(1) Fouls - Offside
5-3 free kicks
3-1 corners
37-37 interceptions
52-48 possession
Here are the match highlights if you are wondering
YouTube - VIDEO0042
I can really understand all those people though who are finding the game frustrating, and I really cannot understand how the game plays so radically differently across the board. I was almost going to give up on PES as either games seemed too broken, too fast, too slow, shots felt weird, passing weird, not enough opposition possession, unrealistic cpu play etc etc.
Sigh, finally I think I've found the way forward for me anyway.