Simcut
BF3 Addict
Who's screens are we talking about?
PES 2012 Discussion Thread .......
- Thread starter Jimmy G-Force
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Who's screens are we talking about?
Konami needs to change the team handling the PES series. "Seabass" has run out of ideas. The presentation and sound sucks!!! Gameplay rules as always and graphics is ok. The gameplay is addictive and the only reason I keep coming back to play over and over again. The presentation needs serious work. Even without most of the licenses, good presentation and good sound will make it trump Fifa.
Woodzy
League 1
In settings.exe, under the controller tab, choose xinput.
Job done, cheers!
To think I was entering each button manually before that....
unbornchikkenvoices
League 2
- 21 April 2002
Get rid of seabass because of the presentation? Gameplay is everything and as you said yourself and PES is fantastic this year.
thats like getting rid of messi because you dont like the way he cuts is hair
klashman69
Fight the Power!
- 28 November 2007
Oh, my Danny, great news. You have proved SPECTACULARLY wrong
I have a new Barcelona tactic, and i've given it to stoke to test your theory. Fucking hell! 16 minutes into a 15 min -1 professional match vs me as a crappy fake team. All Stoke have done, all game is HOOF, yes, my friend, HOOF the ball to the front three.
there was a small, breif period of three quick passes, followed by a HOOF!
I gave them the exact settings i gave Barca and all. So for teams to play possession football, they first need the players, then need the tactic.
No worry beachryan. teams WILL play differently on this game, they just need to be set up. It seems Konami have simply left teams in a total mess tactically! I mean, pretty much every team has the same team styles
No worry beachryan. teams WILL play differently on this game, they just need to be set up. It seems Konami have simply left teams in a total mess tactically! I mean, pretty much every team has the same team styles
Excellent to hear. Can't wait for some option files to emerge. Not sure how long it'll take for that to happen though
Right I've just tried again with a 20min game and both teams untouched and on green arrows
Half time:
Full time:
Maybe the only way to make them have higher possession is to play a longer game? It seems at the moment like they are constantly trying to go forward with every pass instead of retaining the ball.
Anyhow, really looking forward to seeing some of the tactics from klashman which made last years game much better
klashman69
Fight the Power!
- 28 November 2007
beachryan, i think the game by itself is great, i think the main problem literally is just how shocking bad Konami have left the database. It's so unprofessional and lazy it's fucking hilarious 
Ronaldo the great fenomenao retired back in what? March! and he's still with Corinthinans
Most teams have the same tactic, also unlike with PES 2011 where the team values did vary a bit at least, there also identical for most 'possession game' or 'quick counter'. hence why every team is playing the same way
Konami know there will be a patch so it seems there is literally 0 effort gone into this database. So i wouldn't get worried about teams playing the same since they are all setup like that.
Ronaldo the great fenomenao retired back in what? March! and he's still with Corinthinans
Most teams have the same tactic, also unlike with PES 2011 where the team values did vary a bit at least, there also identical for most 'possession game' or 'quick counter'. hence why every team is playing the same way
Konami know there will be a patch so it seems there is literally 0 effort gone into this database. So i wouldn't get worried about teams playing the same since they are all setup like that.
Right I've just tried again with a 20min game and both teams untouched and on green arrows
Half time:
Full time:
Maybe the only way to make them have higher possession is to play a longer game? It seems at the moment like they are constantly trying to go forward with every pass instead of retaining the ball.
Anyhow, really looking forward to seeing some of the tactics from klashman which made last years game much better
Thanks for replying mate. Looks like there might be a slight difference between PC and PS3 then? I'll try it again later and see if I get anything similar to yours.
And btw, online is working now!
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Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
Online is working ? Cool. Look for a match please Lami and see if there is any visual to dictate the Passing Assistance levels of the opponent bud. Cheers. 
beachryan, i think the game by itself is great, i think the main problem literally is just how shocking bad Konami have left the database. It's so unprofessional and lazy it's fucking hilarious
Ronaldo the great fenomenao retired back in what? March! and he's still with Corinthinans
Most teams have the same tactic, also unlike with PES 2011 where the team values did vary a bit at least, there also identical for most 'possession game' or 'quick counter'. hence why every team is playing the same way
Konami know there will be a patch so it seems there is literally 0 effort gone into this database. So i wouldn't get worried about teams playing the same since they are all setup like that.
Another of my favs is the 'card' they have for 'running in behind'. And they haven't given this to Hernandez. I mean, in one of the 2 largest leagues in the world, they haven't even bothered to give the card to the player who most embodies it.
I mean, what's the point in even having these things?
dannyfc2
Premier League
- 9 June 2009
Oh, my Danny, great news. You have proved SPECTACULARLY wrong
I have a new Barcelona tactic, and i've given it to stoke to test your theory. Fucking hell! 16 minutes into a 15 min -1 professional match vs me as a crappy fake team. All Stoke have done, all game is HOOF, yes, my friend, HOOF the ball to the front three.
there was a small, breif period of three quick passes, followed by a HOOF!
I gave them the exact settings i gave Barca and all. So for teams to play possession football, they first need the players, then need the tactic.
No worry beachryan. teams WILL play differently on this game, they just need to be set up. It seems Konami have simply left teams in a total mess tactically! I mean, pretty much every team has the same team styles
Sorry, but, bollocks.
All that proves is the CPU just blatantly ignores tactics. If your theory was true they'd attempt to play safe, easy passes and mess up. Not suddenly feel this innate reflex to hoof it because their stats aren't good enough. Give me an example of a team playing non-direct counter attacking football and I'll believe you.
Like I said this ain't a major issue for me as I realise it's probably an unrealistic demand. But some of you have got your heads in the clouds if you think the AI is a complex, intricate beast.
Simcut
BF3 Addict
PESEdit 2012 Patch 1.0 is now out
zeemeister
foxy engine
I am seriously stressing about this. Do you think Konami have really clamped down on regions as far as online goes? i.e if you bought BLES7864 you can only play BLES7864?
This would be a fuck up of immeasurable proportions
Andy
Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
sincover
Championship
- 16 August 2010
beachryan, i think the game by itself is great, i think the main problem literally is just how shocking bad Konami have left the database. It's so unprofessional and lazy it's fucking hilarious
Ronaldo the great fenomenao retired back in what? March! and he's still with Corinthinans
Most teams have the same tactic, also unlike with PES 2011 where the team values did vary a bit at least, there also identical for most 'possession game' or 'quick counter'. hence why every team is playing the same way
Konami know there will be a patch so it seems there is literally 0 effort gone into this database. So i wouldn't get worried about teams playing the same since they are all setup like that.
Stop typing and start tweaking!!
I know there is a way to import/export specific teams, but can you then share that specific file for others to download?
Let's say Klash creates the perfect Barca tactics is there a way for him to share his custom tactics without writing every single one out like he did last year?
Thanks mate, but personally I know that already because that's what I did to play when the demo was out. This is a bug that was in the demo and it's still unfixed, even after the first patch. Complete disgrace as usual by konami.
What are we supposed to do when we want to play with a friend, find a 3rd controller?
How do people keep their jobs in there I don't know.
I was also wondering this: it will be great when we create proper tactics for the AI teams, but what is really the use when they never change from the default tactic, no matter what?
Or does anyone have proof that they change to a more defensive system when they want to keep a lead for example?
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sincover
Championship
- 16 August 2010
They have been doing this since PES 2010. Pause the game and look at their formation throughout the game. It's somewhat primitive but it changes based on the situation.
embraceuk1
Original Member Since 2001
Despite its flaws the full version is better than the second demo and is the first enjoyable next gen release apart from PES6 on the xbox 360 .
.Great news. I'm a long time fan but the last couple of years I switched sides to the terrible efforst by Konami.
No matter the shitty bugs and the unprofessionalism of Konami and seabass, this game is an improvement.
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zeemeister
foxy engine
Just had a look an don't think you can Jimmy. You can set the level to top player when picking friendly match but locked on regular (greyed out) when picking ranking match.Online is working ? Cool. Look for a match please Lami and see if there is any visual to dictate the Passing Assistance levels of the opponent bud. Cheers.
You can set your own controller settings though, probably ask the other fella nicely to change his pass support to 0
Just had one game and thought the speed was hectic. I'm supposed to lag since I'm in Australia and playing someone in Spain but lag was very minimal and game very playable
Until the game decided to drop me out before the 2nd half saying connection has worsened 
I don't think I can play online if its this quick tbh, unless I play people who are definitely using 0 pass support, that's if the game doesn't throw me out obviously.
Can't be 100% sure Zee but I think I can play people from the other EU regions from what I can see. UK room has 0 people whereas French, German, Italian and Spanish rooms have people in. Hope it doesn't mean they just have a copy like mine though.
Could you try a 20min game to see how it goes with that? Maybe with a longer game the team is less eager to get the ball forward which is why Barca had more possession in your test?
Gab_
I agree
- 6 April 2009
Been playing full game, it's great. No idea what the moaners where all about? It's better than the demos. Tweaked ball physics and new nets for the net freaks (tight square that doesn't stretch back far when ball hits it).
The issue with defenders leaving the forwards on crosses is still there though and happened A LOT when I played BAL now, I hope they patch this. Also the teams never play possession football, passing around, going back. There might be a pass back from time to time, but it's still a very direct attack after that. Would like the pace to go up and down like in real life, it's just attack after attack, no resting.
Game is great anyway, it will be interesting to see how much the keepers will be improved, and if it's a realistic improvement or a quick fix to make them save more shots.
The issue with defenders leaving the forwards on crosses is still there though and happened A LOT when I played BAL now, I hope they patch this. Also the teams never play possession football, passing around, going back. There might be a pass back from time to time, but it's still a very direct attack after that. Would like the pace to go up and down like in real life, it's just attack after attack, no resting.
Game is great anyway, it will be interesting to see how much the keepers will be improved, and if it's a realistic improvement or a quick fix to make them save more shots.
I'll surely do that tomorrow then and post my results here.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Thanks lami. We live in hope pity you got booted already bloody hell konami.
