PES 2011 Discussion thread
- Thread starter NightWish
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pes 2011 1.02 patch is out and here is the download for the pc version
http://hotfile.com/dl/84603643/cb6438b/PES2011Patch102.zip.html
http://hotfile.com/dl/84603643/cb6438b/PES2011Patch102.zip.html
Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
Awesome Gerd, nice one. I'll give that a go now bud.
Edit - Is there another link for this file Gerd ? I'm having trouble with Rapidshare ? Cheers.
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Chimps-with-quiffs
Champions League
- 11 August 2003
Awesome Gerd, nice one. I'll give that a go now bud.
Edit - Is there another link for this file Gerd ? I'm having trouble with Rapidshare ? Cheers.
I will be updating this file soon (possibly today)as I have been working on tweaking the teams I have so far stat edited which are the Dutch, English, Spanish and Italian teams.
I am currently dropping the game speed and making forwards stay ahead of defenders a bit more and increasing the difficulty.
As long as the new patch does lead to me having to tweak further, I should have a new game play file for mine and goalgerd patch out today or tomorrow
Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
Cheers Chimps, nice one. Dying to try this file now. I was reluctant before as I didnt want my offline and online experience to differ, but I dont play offline an awful lot, so I dont feel it will be an issue.
I switched on my PS3 last night, went online and noticed an MLO Comp starting in 2 minutes. I entered, won 4 drew 2 and finished 17th again with a plus 5 GD. I actually conceded from a corner (Goalkeeper header) in the last minute of a game to make it 2-1 to me. That goal cost me a place in the knockouts, and funnily enough the guy who scored it against me finished 3rd. Anyway, going into the last game I had nothing really to play for bar points as I couldnt better my 3 consecutive wins as I'd drawn the game before.
This game Boca went to town, typical. I won 3-0 and received 3 'Wows" off my opponent for two of the goals I scored against him. I thought I'd save the highlights as all 3 goals are pretty stunning in there own right. Some nice passing puts in Pellissier for the first, an R2 shot with the outside of his boot makes it 1-0. Maniche then shows me exactly why I bought him and his Long Ranger Card. It has to be all of 40 yards out, it's just outside the centre circle. What a strike by the way.
The last one is another excellent passing move with a first time lob. Hard to pull of these, but Robbie Keane is just the man for this type of shit.
YouTube - Boca Bonito
I switched on my PS3 last night, went online and noticed an MLO Comp starting in 2 minutes. I entered, won 4 drew 2 and finished 17th again with a plus 5 GD. I actually conceded from a corner (Goalkeeper header) in the last minute of a game to make it 2-1 to me. That goal cost me a place in the knockouts, and funnily enough the guy who scored it against me finished 3rd. Anyway, going into the last game I had nothing really to play for bar points as I couldnt better my 3 consecutive wins as I'd drawn the game before.
This game Boca went to town, typical. I won 3-0 and received 3 'Wows" off my opponent for two of the goals I scored against him. I thought I'd save the highlights as all 3 goals are pretty stunning in there own right. Some nice passing puts in Pellissier for the first, an R2 shot with the outside of his boot makes it 1-0. Maniche then shows me exactly why I bought him and his Long Ranger Card. It has to be all of 40 yards out, it's just outside the centre circle. What a strike by the way.
The last one is another excellent passing move with a first time lob. Hard to pull of these, but Robbie Keane is just the man for this type of shit. YouTube - Boca Bonito
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sincover
Championship
- 16 August 2010
game speed definitely feels relatively faster. CPU is better at closing down play (it is now fairly common to be quadruple teamed). Shooting seems toned down. Player switching seems same.
Simcut
BF3 Addict
This game is getting on my bloody wick, my players seem to stutter as they try running, has happened to me since I got the game, and I'm getting slow responsiveness, pissing me off big time :/ I'm still immensly fucked off with the crazy shit fps that I get on the intros and on replays 
^ on ps3
^ on ps3
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
Same here. A Serie B or Segunda Division OF would interest me more.
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DagsJT
Guest
Have the Championship teams stats been edited as well?
Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
I'm not going to be on the game for a few days, what's the general opinion about the new patch? Has it improved the game?
Really hope it hasn't increased the speed, for me -2 is perfect. To speed this up would be seriously annoying.
Really hope it hasn't increased the speed, for me -2 is perfect. To speed this up would be seriously annoying.
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DagsJT
Guest
Patch has definately made the game better. I play on -1 and the speed doesn't feel like it's improved much, if at all.
tobi
"Clear Eyes Full Hearts Can't Lose."
- 5 August 2005
- Spurs, Suns and Cowboys
I played a couple of games earlier and I didn't see any evidence that the player switching has improved.
Chimps-with-quiffs
Champions League
- 11 August 2003
Not yet, I wanted to get the teams I have already done playing how I wanted it before moving on.
I need to retest the game with this latest patch on and then possibly make more changes
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Rob92
Guest
This game rewards proper footballing tactics moreso than any other game I've played (hence my decent record on MLO and ranked matches), but I still think Konami could push it further for future editions.
Most of my goals are well worked and nicely executed, with a lot of variety and some looking very realistic - most of the goals I concede are from Arshavin/Messi whoring, deflections, keeper parries, cutbacks, crosses straight after throw ins (no time to position defence) and other cheap goals. I can count on one hand the amount of truly great footballing goals I have conceded, each time I sent a message applauding my opponent for such a goal...
"Professional gamers" should not get anywhere in PES, I hope that's what Konami are aiming for in the future - things like realistic stamina/fatigue, less automated tackling, slightly less pass assistance and more intelligent teammate AI would be top of my gameplay wishlist for PES 2012.
Most of my goals are well worked and nicely executed, with a lot of variety and some looking very realistic - most of the goals I concede are from Arshavin/Messi whoring, deflections, keeper parries, cutbacks, crosses straight after throw ins (no time to position defence) and other cheap goals. I can count on one hand the amount of truly great footballing goals I have conceded, each time I sent a message applauding my opponent for such a goal...
"Professional gamers" should not get anywhere in PES, I hope that's what Konami are aiming for in the future - things like realistic stamina/fatigue, less automated tackling, slightly less pass assistance and more intelligent teammate AI would be top of my gameplay wishlist for PES 2012.
Suuuuupertalk
International
- 17 August 2010
- Luton Town
Been playing ML and at first I was loving it, but seriously, how are you supposed to consistently win when the AI makes your players' form either blue or purple? I just gave up on a match before I started. I'd previously won 3-1, then the next game my opponents are all on yellow/red, my ENTIRE team were on purple except for about 3 players, who were on blue. I couldn't be bothered to wade through that match hoping to cling on for a draw, because it's been happening more and more often.
At first it was kind of cool, playing when your back is against the wall, but form is making the entire season a slog now. When players are that off form they can barely run let alone put in a decent shot or pass.
At first it was kind of cool, playing when your back is against the wall, but form is making the entire season a slog now. When players are that off form they can barely run let alone put in a decent shot or pass.
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
It does and it doesn't. And that's the problem. There's still a lot of bullshit that Konami needs to iron out of its game. Some of it's technical, but some is philosophical too - there's still too much of an arcade feel at times for my tastes.
This is certainly a solid step in the right direction and as long as Konami further commits itself to realistic gameplay while improving the technical side of its game, I think PES has finally come to terms with this gen of hardware. Too bad it's only got a couple years before we're onto the next!
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cutback in the box is the new ultra exploit....With a good CF (that has high Atck attribute to position himself) its 90% goal....The intelligence of teammate AI MUST be No1 priority espessially in the DEFENCE.
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
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The intelligence of teammate AI MUST be No1 priority espessially in the DEFENCE.
So true, although it's weird - it's not so much the defensive AI is stupid, they just don't react for some reason to simple yet deadly passes; their positioning seems fine, they just too often are caught ball watching. As someone who only plays vs the CPU, it cheapens the satisfaction of scoring.
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The intelligence of teammate AI MUST be No1 priority espessially in the DEFENCE.
That's no exploit. In real footbal this also lead to a lot of goals.
If you let the attacker cut back the ball from within the box, you made an earlier mistake to let him come that far in the box.
Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
What team are you using ? How far through your season are you ? What level is your fitness coach at ?
henrys hand
Premier League
- 2 September 2010
I played some more yesterday night on xbox360 and it's definitely faster than before patch, I even feel -2 to be a bit too fast for my liking.
But I love how dribbling is more responsive and not only that: Every button-pressing is way more responsive, I had situations where the ball was rolling toward goallline with the goalkeeper beaten and I was able to run with a field-player towards that goalline and shoot the ball away preventing the ball entering. This was impossible before the patch, where it would be guaranteed to be an own-goal because of response-delays.
I think I like the new pressing it gives the mid-field-play some more weight and intensity, but I will take my time with it before I fully declare it a success.
What I don't like is that the passing is too precise, but that was about the same before the patch. A bit more manual-feeling with the direction of passes would go a long way in my book.
And is it me or are there now more fouls than before patch? I like it.
Oh, there is one thing that I hate that was also the same before patch: I like to have the running on the RT-shoulder-button and changing it from RB to RT is easy and the running works well enough, but when I want to shoot and happen to have the finger still on RT, the shooting becomes very weak, a sort of chipping or lob or what, at least without any power behind it. To shoot with power I have to completely let go off the RT-button and that is restrictive as I often have to run a bit to get into a good shoot-position or if I want to use the additional energy of running for the shot or the ball is in front of me and I have only little freetime to use it for a shot... I have to be able to run and shoot strong at the same time, but that is currently not possible with the running on RT.
But I love how dribbling is more responsive and not only that: Every button-pressing is way more responsive, I had situations where the ball was rolling toward goallline with the goalkeeper beaten and I was able to run with a field-player towards that goalline and shoot the ball away preventing the ball entering. This was impossible before the patch, where it would be guaranteed to be an own-goal because of response-delays.
I think I like the new pressing it gives the mid-field-play some more weight and intensity, but I will take my time with it before I fully declare it a success.
What I don't like is that the passing is too precise, but that was about the same before the patch. A bit more manual-feeling with the direction of passes would go a long way in my book.
And is it me or are there now more fouls than before patch? I like it.
Oh, there is one thing that I hate that was also the same before patch: I like to have the running on the RT-shoulder-button and changing it from RB to RT is easy and the running works well enough, but when I want to shoot and happen to have the finger still on RT, the shooting becomes very weak, a sort of chipping or lob or what, at least without any power behind it. To shoot with power I have to completely let go off the RT-button and that is restrictive as I often have to run a bit to get into a good shoot-position or if I want to use the additional energy of running for the shot or the ball is in front of me and I have only little freetime to use it for a shot... I have to be able to run and shoot strong at the same time, but that is currently not possible with the running on RT.
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Simcut
BF3 Addict
OMG I am so mega pissed right now, I cant stand playing online, what a load of shit.
Its really slow and unresponsive, I press pass and it passes like 2 seconds later, and the matchmaking is fucking bullshit, I just started out on MLO and the first matchmaking person I get drawn against was some Division 1 guy with Barcelona consisting of Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, and lots of other very high players, and there's me with all the default Master League lineup, what kind of bullshit is that?
What can I do to fix the slow responsiveness problems? also the fucking player switching in online is a joke, pressing L1 and it highlights a player miles away and I've conceded a couple of goals because of it.
Played 3 matches in MLO and lost all 3, didnt even score and conceded 7. Fucking pissed off with it. Seriously, does nobody else have REALLY slow responsiveness for passing, shooting, dribbling on online?
Its really slow and unresponsive, I press pass and it passes like 2 seconds later, and the matchmaking is fucking bullshit, I just started out on MLO and the first matchmaking person I get drawn against was some Division 1 guy with Barcelona consisting of Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, and lots of other very high players, and there's me with all the default Master League lineup, what kind of bullshit is that?
What can I do to fix the slow responsiveness problems? also the fucking player switching in online is a joke, pressing L1 and it highlights a player miles away and I've conceded a couple of goals because of it.
Played 3 matches in MLO and lost all 3, didnt even score and conceded 7. Fucking pissed off with it. Seriously, does nobody else have REALLY slow responsiveness for passing, shooting, dribbling on online?
From others I just read the opposite: Online feels somewhat faster and more responsive, so I tend to believe it's your connection. Maybe you should try it again later.
Ever tried a www.speedtest.net test?
Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
It is possible Henry, everybody who wants to strike the ball with plenty of zip, for the most part, needs to sprint a little to get the ball out of their feet. The problem your having is that your pressing sprint straight after you have struck the ball, and your initiating the 'Dink Shot'. This type of shot is a brilliant way to chip an onrushing keeper when you dont have the time to slip it past him either side. Just be aware of not pressing sprint after you have pressed shoot, unless your attempting the 'Dink', and you wont have any issues.
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mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
I think the point is that too often the CPU defense doesn't react properly to the through pass, making it easier than it should be to get a quality shot on goal.
This happens frequently for me, where what should be a routine defensive play instead turns into an easy goal, even on top player.
I'm in the same boat as you regarding MLO. Fucking unplayable and even when you finally meet a D4 or D5 opponent they still tend to have much better players than you. So you're more or less forced to play extremely defensive and hope for the best. I've won a few games by defending and frustrating the opponents, hoofing the ball towards Toivonen and have Viktor Elm and Dzagoev (MUST have imo) run onto his flick-ons. But more often than not you'll defend well the entire game but get beaten by an own goal or cheap through ball.
I do however think the lag on this game isn't too bad. Not as good as FIFA but it's certainly playable for me.
henrys hand
Premier League
- 2 September 2010
But that's exactly the problem: When I'm running with RT and that is the analogue shoulderbutton, how am I supposed to let go off it quick enough after the shot to prevent the "Dink"-shot being used? Sure with a lot of concentration and very quick reflexes it might work but in 80% of the cases it won't because of the long analogue-way. Isn't there a way in the setting to disable the "Dink"-shot being caused by that?
Jimmy G-Force
Resident PES Fanman
Do you not release sprint when you go to press shoot ? As far as I'm aware, you can even shoot with sprint. Your problem is definately tapping sprint when your filling your shoot power-bar up. I have never had this issue, ever. I do use the dink shot quite alot, but I cant remember initiating it when I dont want to. You cant disable that shot.
Steekbal -
Have you not released your ML players via Squad List to aquire their market value and put some cash in the bank ? Thats a must. Release your ML players, get the cash, then buy some decent strikers and midfielders. It will help massively.
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Simcut
BF3 Addict
I doubt it somehow, I'm on 50mbit, I get 49.7mb/sec on speedtest.