PES 2011 Discussion thread

Chimps-with-quiffs said:
Its looking good mate. I shouldnt be anywhere near as long this year either.

I played Inter v AC Milan on top player and won 4 - 0. Spent about 1 minute editing the AC Milan team and replayed them twice and lost both games 1 - 0.
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i think with konami fixing the gameplay there will be less to change to make the game outstanding

could somebody tweet jon murphy and ask him why the ireland team has de graffshaff kits in the new update
 
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Wow, the lag is annoying.

Played three games, drew the first 1-1, the only game without obvious lag. Lost the second 3-1 to some dude with Sneijder and Benzema up front who were a nightmare to try and contain given the half second delay my players had.
Now just played a guy who was Inter, played some decent football at the start but then the AI decided to hack him down for a penalty and got Valeny sent off at the same time, which fucked me over for the game. 1-0 down 15mins gone and with noticable lag. Managed to actually equilise 5mins into the second half but he got a winner due to some lovely player switching meaning one of his strikers runs was left totally uncovered when I had actually spotted it but bounced changing between my two CB's while my RB stood and watched him run past him. :(
 
Chimps-with-quiffs said:
Its looking good mate. I shouldnt be anywhere near as long this year either.

I played Inter v AC Milan on top player and won 4 - 0. Spent about 1 minute editing the AC Milan team and replayed them twice and lost both games 1 - 0.
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What did you edit there?
goalgerd said:
i think with konami fixing the gameplay there will be less to change to make the game outstanding

could somebody tweet jon murphy and ask him why the ireland team has de graffshaff kits in the new update
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Are you still doing championship teams mate?
 
I quite like the game but the player switching bug is game breaking for me. I use player switching in a rather unique way to defend, but the way it's been implemented this year totally undermines that.

In previous games I would be able to shut folk out but with this game any long balls/lob through passes just turn your defenders into complete spongoloids.

Overall it's a fairly decent game, but the bizarre MLO money system where you earn 10p per win and the big money games are impossible to join is somewhat curious. The player switching bug is game breaking though, it's the worst gameplay bug I've ever seen in PES. You end the game and, whilst in previous years you could accept a deserved loss, this game is simply throwing out wrong results. The best player often loses games that they shouldn't - and not in the fun "That's football" way. No, more of a "Har fucking har, the ball bounced infront of your defender and you pressed L1, you are now sentenced to scroll through every member of your team before finally getting the player you want right as the oppo roll the ball into the empty net." Small difference.

Fix that and you've got a good game - It's just a shame that the one glaring bug is the one that effectively determines the score.
 
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Just found the statistics bit on the squad's list.

Fuller, 24 appearances, 17 goals, 7 assists :SMUG:

McFadden, 14 app, 9 goals, 3 assists.

Clinical duo them two.


Started to finally play some lovely football so I don't dare change any of my strategy settings. Got 700k in the bank, hopefully make another 500k from the next comp.

Jesus christ this is addicting, but I swear to God i will break my fist the next time I get a 'connection lost'
 
Badgerman said:
I quite like the game but the player switching bug is game breaking for me. I use player switching in a rather unique way to defend, but the way it's been implemented this year totally undermines that.

In previous games I would be able to shut folk out but with this game any long balls/lob through passes just turn your defenders into complete spongoloids.

Overall it's a fairly decent game, but the bizarre MLO money system where you earn 10p per win and the big money games are impossible to join is somewhat curious. The player switching bug is game breaking though, it's the worst gameplay bug I've ever seen in PES. You end the game and, whilst in previous years you could accept a deserved loss, this game is simply throwing out wrong results. The best player often loses games that they shouldn't - and not in the fun "That's football" way. No, more of a "Har fucking har, the ball bounced infront of your defender and you pressed L1, you are now sentenced to scroll through every member of your team before finally getting the player you want right as the oppo roll the ball into the empty net." Small difference.

Fix that and you've got a good game - It's just a shame that the one glaring bug is the one that effectively determines the score.
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This is probably the fundamental frustrating thing that's niggling me to.

I like PES but over the last few days i've found it more frustrating.

One thing i'm actually surprised is how people say they have very little trouble with the AI on top-player. I'm no slouch myself and while the AI does not destroy me, it's still capable of giving me a tough time. :CURSE:

What gets me muttering is the fact that it appears to be one rule for the AI and one for a player, there's times when i've felt helpless and feel like i've encountered scripted scenarios that i cannot play out of because either the AI intervenes with a flawless interception or tackle, or a "random" mistake occurs on my players behalf when they weren't under pressure.

Using Everton in Master League i rarely outplay the AI for example, i can out-score it and dominate possession, but it's not often a victory is earned by some great moment of vision, more i just came off better in a dogfight, and also more that it appears in this particular game my players were "allowed" to complete passes and make runs.

This i've felt is always in PES to some extent, but to me at least, it's compounded by this sloppy player change now. There are more mistakes made that i have no control over, like my player changes late and then animates incorrectly to not intercept or tackle cleanly, or to just plainly watch the players run by...

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It's a different ball game (ho ho ho) with offline multiplayer. That is PES to me, as these same mistakes are made by other players and you're allowed more freedom to outfox and out maneuver the opponent, even a solid human player will not always "guess" right like i find the AI does.

It's offline multiplayer that'll be PES saving grace for me as even with (on paper) a correctly setup connection my end just lags a bit, only on this particular title too.

Maybe it will change, but offline ML is becoming more of a chore than a pleasure :II
 
The fucking KI or AI name it how you like makes me so angry
I loose because of the dump defense who stand one point(3 players) or dont attack ... and i loose because i pass and the stupid KI is not clever enough to let it roll through their legs and because of the stupid attacking no running into free spaces or just standing in the offsite ... i mean come on this couldn't be that difficult -.-

Sometimes i wish i could just go to the developers and show them what i hate.
 
Uh, managed to string together 3 consecutive wins for a competition, only to finish 20th. I don't see how people can score so many in 5 minute games, I'ma have to go All Out Attack from the off to stand a chance of qualifying I think.


Have to say I'm quite glad that it takes so long to buy players. Last thing we want is teams of Messi/Villa/Ronaldo, it's so much more rewarding getting in someone with a bit of skill after slogging out game after game for him.

Come across Messi a couple of times, but mainly in teams consisting of all originals + him luckily.
 
Recommendations for Master League Online:

- Big(ger?) bonuses for Goals being scored

- Bonus for keeping a non-star player (i.e. a player rated in 70s or 80s without a * next to his name) for a long period of time

- Players individual value at you club goes up due to Goals and Assists

(When you sell a player they currently go for the current maximum price...yeah? but what if you could cash in a bit more out of having an average player that performed well...?)

And just throwing this OUT THERE, as a player of Transformers : War for Cybertron (and the grindfest that it was - until they introduced...)

DOUBLE $ MONEY $ WEEKENDS...!!!!!
 
Patch relink teams ver 1.0

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El patch contiene los equipos de la libertadores adicionados al modo exhibition y master league

LIBERTADORES PES 2011 PS3

Chivas de Guadalajara
Monarcas Moreila
Monterrey
San luis
Estudiantes Tecos
Banfield
Colon
Estudiantes de la Plata
C.A. Lanus
Newells Old Boys
Velez
Blooming
Bolivar
Real Potosi
corinthias
Cruzeiro
Flamengo
Internacional
Sao Paulo
U Catolica
U Chile
Colo Colo
Once Caldas
Junior
DIM
Deportivo Cuenca
Emelec
Deportivo Quito
Cerro Porteño
Libertad
Nacional ( Paraguay )
Alianza Lima
Juan Aurich
Universitario
Nacional de Montevideo
C.A Cerro
Racing Montevideo
Caracas F.C.
Deportivo Italia
Deportivo Tachira


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Is anyone else getting the red icon that denotes a bad connection next to basically everyone you can possibly play against? I've seen stuff about opening ports - my ps3 says I have an open NAT so do I have anything to worry about there, or is it simply cause I'm in the states?

Also what do you guys do for the master league to create the second division, sans having a championship patch- do you just put a random bunch of teams in? Bout to get mine started :)
 
Dar said:
You sound a bit like me. I've never used the 1-2 button in any PES game. Just never really needed to (not that I'm all that amazing) so it just never comes into my game. :) Tricks buttons? I have no idea of either. Apart from the old school R2 tap stepovers and then lose possession while in the middle of them. :COOL:
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Seconded - although I dont really use sprint much either

The one consistent thing I have always played across all Prop Evo titles is the long hollywood ball from defence (usually fbs but sometimes Cbs) or deep crosses to 'put it in the mixer' :)

Industrial football I think they call it - does anyone else do something similar
 
Does anybody know a quick way to set up a online match with a PSN mate? I I spent around 10 mins trying to find a quick way and couldnt find one and then when I created a game it wouldnt allow me to invite anybody, I did get around to having a match by going into a lobby and have him create the game, but would like to know if there is a quicker way to do it

Also can you use your mic to chat to your mate whilst playing online?

Last question - Is there any way to stop the AI auto tackling and clearing?

The player changing bug is really annoying especially when trying to change to a player nearest to the ball while trying to avoid a corner or going out of play. The shooting can get frustrating at times but im enjoying it alot and just waiting for a decent option file before I start Master League/Be A Legend
 
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Does anybody know a quick way to set up a online match with a PSN mate? I I spent around 10 mins trying to find a quick way and couldnt find one and then when I created a game it wouldnt allow me to invite anybody, I did get around to having a match by going into a lobby and have him create the game, but would like to know if there is a quicker way to do it

Also can you use your mic to chat to your mate whilst playing online?

Last question - Is there any way to stop the AI auto tackling and clearing?

The player changing bug is really annoying especially when trying to change to a player nearest to the ball while trying to avoid a corner or going out of play. The shooting can get frustrating at times but im enjoying it alot and just waiting for a decent option file before I start Master League/Be A Legend
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Try disabling auto sliding tackle in the management options...
 
is it me, or are the shots very floaty.
I find it hard to shoot low, most shot i sky over the bar.
Low shots have imo always been a problem with Pes, most going into the top corners. Other than that i like the game. I'm finding it hard to get shots off as well, most of the times i'm blocked. Must be my slow reactions.
 
stilts1844 said:
Is anyone else getting the red icon that denotes a bad connection next to basically everyone you can possibly play against? I've seen stuff about opening ports - my ps3 says I have an open NAT so do I have anything to worry about there, or is it simply cause I'm in the states?
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I get this for every game but not that many are laggy. Ironically the one game I can remember playing where I did not have this icon was the worst for lag that I have had :CONFUSE:
 
elfie said:
is it me, or are the shots very floaty.
I find it hard to shoot low, most shot i sky over the bar.
Low shots have imo always been a problem with Pes, most going into the top corners. Other than that i like the game. I'm finding it hard to get shots off as well, most of the times i'm blocked. Must be my slow reactions.
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Shots go high if you are right over the ball and hit them hard. In these situations it is probably better to use R2 and not press soo long, they wont have any power in them but you can direct it into the corners. Shooting low probably also has alot to do with your player technique and other variables. I find running onto a pass and hitting with a short button press will result in a hard driven low shot.

I had Peter Crouch in my MLO team for a while to play off of. His shooting from outside the box when he was stood ontop of the ball was great. I scored quite a few knocking the ball into his feet, back to goal with a defender on him, then a quick turn to face goal and place a low, low powered shot right into the bottom corners.

I know what you mean about getting shots off, just try not to knock the ball too far from you feet when there are defenders close, they will always take it. If you have a decent striker like Crouchy just tap the shoot button and direct it into a corner, you dont need alot of power. If you srtiker is rubbish pass it off and wait for an opportunity where someone can run onto a pass and hit it.
 
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Ern Dog said:
Shots go high if you are right over the ball and hit them hard. In these situations it is probably better to use R2 and not press soo long, they wont have any power in them but you can direct it into the corners. Shooting low probably also has alot to do with your player technique and other variables. I find running onto a pass and hitting with a short button press will result in a hard driven low shot.

I had Peter Crouch in my MLO team for a while to play off of. His shooting from outside the box when he was stood ontop of the ball was great. I scored quite a few knocking the ball into his feet, back to goal with a defender on him, then a quick turn to face goal and place a low, low powered shot right into the bottom corners.

I know what you mean about getting shots off, just try not to knock the ball too far from you feet when there are defenders close, they will always take it. If you have a decent striker like Crouchy just tap the shoot button and direct it into a corner, you dont need alot of power. If you srtiker is rubbish pass it off and wait for an opportunity where someone can run onto a pass and hit it.
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Thanks for the comments, will give it a go tonight
 
Learning to get round the bad defensive player switching by just not switching. If ball is played forward to a striker near my box, I'll press X instead to let my come team-mates put pressure on. I'll only switch once its safe, like COM has been forced to turn away from goal or there is sufficient cover should my switching go wrong.
Still get times where the com breaks through my line but less than before when I used to switch and players would stutter for a vital second or run out of the way because I had pressed a direction thinking it would switch to a different player.
 
ilfenomeno said:
Thank you, very important piece of information. Now, the problem is to find a patch which doesn't replace PES United with a championship team (or any other 2nd division team from real life).
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Blimey, never thought of that - might relay this info to Daymos... I get the feeling he creates completely new Championship teams from scratch anyway?
I can't believe this hasn't been discussed more in the forums more - it is a VERY important piece of info for anybody who truly wants a challenge on ML offline this year.
By the way; glad you understood my comment previously - I'd had a bit of a sesh in the pub and my explanatory skills weren't the best
 
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Thankfully, possibly due to me using the semi-auto player switching, I'm having very few niggles in that department, although it has happened to me a few times. It's usually after a manual pass or long through-ball, but it's very few and far between to even bother me.

I played with Boca Juniors last. Oh my lord, Riquelme is phenomenal. I looked at how much he was to buy in my MLO, and he is just under £5 million. Ouch !!

I also removed the power bar and find the game so much better for it. I much prefer the 'feel' of knowing the weight of pass, and it's less distracting in hindsight and feels more natural. I even scored 2 freekicks, which felt great without the power-bar, and all me. :)
 
Jimmy G-Force said:
Thankfully, possibly due to me using the semi-auto player switching, I'm having very few niggles in that department, although it has happened to me a few times. It's usually after a manual pass or long through-ball, but it's very few and far between to even bother me.
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This is my gripe with the player switching also, on manual balls its like the switching logic is not taking into account the power of the pass. An example of what I mean and what I see as the most regular problem is when playing a ball from say the LMF diagonally down in font of a AMF or whatever to run onto, if that diagonal ball is aimed in the direction of the RMF even though there is no where near the power to reach him it will select him and the player it was meant for will run past the ball.

I feel that there are a few annoying issues with the game that in isolation do not ruin it too much but when you get them all in one game just makes it very frustrating to play, shame as the game is very close to being great.
Next year if they sort out player switching, I think the AI needs working on also and remove the cheap 'hold down X to take the ball' and make it where you HAVE to use their new defensive system, it will be an exceptional game.
 
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