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Did this half arsed, poor summary of a review gamesmaster put up even deserve to be discussed?

Especially in the PES discussion forum for crying out load. Romi, does seem a bit annoyed about something as well.

Something is grinding his gears!
 
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Yup. My point is that, if it IS fixed, then great - just don't assume the positive all the time, even if Konami have radically changed how they do things. Not saying Darth doesn't know what he is doing at all, just that even the Emirates FIFA 11 playtest showed that it's hard to truly confirm anything in a short space of time. It's whether it feels fixed come November, December that's the real test - which again is something mags will never tell you.

Indeed, I was and still am very nervous about the excitement in my impressions but hopefully over the last 13 pages you get to see what I hope is more in depth on certain aspects, like I said at the preview "I am gonna get slaughtered on the forums for this", luckily on Wednesday though people get the chance to agree or shoot me down, I mean it took me over 50 games to like and fully understand the mechanics of the beta and I was critical of those on the site, so will look forward to another 40 or so games on the demo and see if it still holds up and any exploits won't be serious. :))
 
Dd this half arsed, poor summary of a review gamesmaster put up even deserve to be discussed?

Especially in the PES discussion forum for crying out load. Romi, does seem a bi annoyed about something as well.

Something is grinding his gears!

I did say why. I don't think FIFA 11 is a 94 either; I just accept that, as I predicted a while back and even said on the official forums, FIFA will inevitably be higher rated but from the perspective of the non-specific gamer, not the hardcore on here. How many hardcore military sim enthusiasts, or even people who want the game to stay focussed on deep gameplay, would have liked MW1 or 2? Ask Rodelero what he thinks of the Black Ops additions like torque bows and remote control cars. As Jimmy said and I said in that post a week or so ago, it doesn't matter what magazines say because they don't represent our interests.
 
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I remember in WC 98 or Euro 2000, a spanish left footed number 10/ playmaker had them and was in awe!

What was his name. All white boots. Scored in that high scoring game vs serbia. i think

EDIT: Alfonso!! I think

alfonso perez, in 98 player of betis.

he was the first player in spain with colour boots in 1996..
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I did say why. I don't think FIFA 11 is a 94 either; I just accept that, as I predicted a while back and even said on the official forums, FIFA will inevitably be higher rated but from the perspective of the non-specific gamer, not the hardcore on here. How many hardcore military sim enthusiasts, or even people who want the game to stay focussed on deep gameplay, would have liked MW1 or 2? Ask Rodelero what he thinks of the Black Ops additions like torque bows and remote control cars. As Jimmy said and I said in that post a week or so ago, it doesn't matter what magazines say because they don't represent our interests.

Thats why I dont understand why people take reviews personally. The usual "EA paying off reviewers" etc etc. What does it really matter if u dont believe the reviews anyway.
 
PES won all the accolades in the past with reviewers. Now its fifa's turn. The best game with eventually get its praise weather that be fifa or pes. Ive not played fifa 11 or pes 11 so i cannot comment. I can based my opinion on videos and that is fifa 11 looks like WC which i didnt think much of and pes 11 looks like a new great chapter in the pes series.
 
I did say why. I don't think FIFA 11 is a 94 either; I just accept that, as I predicted a while back and even said on the official forums, FIFA will inevitably be higher rated but from the perspective of the non-specific gamer, not the hardcore on here. How many hardcore military sim enthusiasts, or even people who want the game to stay focussed on deep gameplay, would have liked MW1 or 2? Ask Rodelero what he thinks of the Black Ops additions like torque bows and remote control cars. As Jimmy said and I said in that post a week or so ago, it doesn't matter what magazines say because they don't represent our interests.

Cool boss, i share that opinion and i've seen saying the same things.

Also can you help me witht his PS+ thing. Or someone can they help me, whats the quickest way to get PS+ Without using a credit card? Or can u pay by debit online?
 
Cool boss, i share that opinion and i've seen saying the same things.

Also can you help me witht his PSn thing. Or someone can they help me, whats the quickest way to get PS+ Without using a credit card? Or can u pay by debit online?

Surely you can use a debit card? I used to buy my XBL subscriptions and MS points that way. What about the PSN gift cards?
 
So who has actually paid for a PSN Plus account just to get the demo a week earlier? I must admit I am tempted, but now I saw it is £11.99 for 3 months, hmm no, not worth it :)

i paid for it 14.99E,its not just for pes 2011 though im sure psn+ will have more early exclusives like black ops and gran turismo 5,plus i got a great new fish tank theme screensaver:))
 
i paid for it,its not just for pes 2011 though im sure psn+ will have more early exclusives like black ops and gran turismo 5,plus i got a great new fish tank theme screensaver:))

Plus more free trials for games (you play the full game for an hour or so), if you buy the year one you get a free game i hear :CONFUSE:
 
Klashman i would hold off until Wednesday before doing anything.
What if they are not announcing the Xbox 360 demo so ppl like you run out and pay for a Sony subscription and it comes out on the Xbox 360 on the 8th too.
Yeah made me laugh too but you never know why no announcement for Xbox?.

Other Point why do ppl get so upset about Fifa on here, when we have seen what a Poor Fifa and lack of competition has done to Konami in the past i say the competition is great gives us two options and pushes them to make us happy :).
 
Klashman i would hold off until Wednesday before doing anything.
What if they are not announcing the Xbox 360 demo so ppl like you run out and pay for a Sony subscription and it comes out on the Xbox 360 on the 8th too.
Yeah made me laugh too but you never know why no announcement for Xbox?.

Could happen yes, but the vibes we were getting from John Murphy was that the Xbox would be lucky to even get it on the 15th. One the console get's here I'll worry about the subscription. I

for the 3month subscription you get free ps1 abe's oddessy and 50% price off most of the other games like mgs
I liked that game, very freak at the time, but a good game imo!
 
It's been pretty much implied how bogus games reviews are so it's probably not worth arguing over.

I mean think about it, how many individual gaming journalists do you know? I don't know one, i know them all by which source they come from which can be a good way of judging but it's still a bit iffy.

At least with something like film reviews you can pick out which ones are likely to be better assessed and generally more indicative of the material based on previous knowledge of the individual writing the review. Some people are even revered. Games journalism doesn't have that at all.

They still have so much influence though....
 
Actually the review is from GamesMaster. But yeah, that's pretty much what's happening with them, and OPM.

Romagnoli,

You've quoted the post above which I understand triggered your "sensitivity". Although I do not know what wrong he's said. We've been saying similar things for years now and I don't remember anyone getting quite defensive as you did.

Would you lot be saying the same if it was PES? That Gamesmaster don't like the game but are being paid to give it 94%?
Yes, of course we would. Since when do we trust mag scores anyway? The 2008 score was a joke, remember?

This is the really tiresome part of this side of the forums. There's this pack mentality where one mention of the other game leads to everyone trolling FIFA in here, getting the hahaha's and the 'they were paid to like FIFA' rubbish
I don't appreciate what you said there. That's just not right. Both Fifa and PES get the same love and hate in both forums. And there's hardly any trolling with the "hahaha", who was laughing at the score because to us evo-webbers it is laughable really, and the 'they were paid to like FIFA', which is true about certain mags and gamesites.

or randomly guessing that everything that was wrong in the beta will probably/definitely be fixed for the final game
Its not random when Jon Murphy, who works for Konami, tells us. Unless you're saying he's randomly guessing and passing that onto us..

or that anything we don't know will end up turning out in the positive rather than being realistic.
We can only believe what he Murphy tells us. If he says things are being worked on and fixed then we can only hope he's right and stay positive about it. Don't see where the problem is here?

Ironically the FIFA section of these forums is far more grown up.
Where are you when the so called "far grown up" ones come into the PES thread only to post jibberish and wind people up? Some even on a mission to forcefully convince us how Great Fifa is. Both have their fair share of grown ups and the other kind.

but why are FIFA scores getting posted in here and why are people carrying on about it?
Scores of both games were always posted in here. Not sure what you're on about.

Man up FFS.
You're taking this a bit too serious, mate.

If you're confident that PES is back this year then why do you need to link to and act like dicks about a game that to you doesnt make a blind bit of difference?
I don't see where anyone here acted like a ****. They're just surprised by that score like most of us are. Or is it because it's being done in the PES thread?

Bottom line, it probably is a low to mid 90's game for journalists who just review games rather then get properly passionate and geeky about football games.
You should've posted this part only and none of the over-reacting before it.

Anyway, you barged in here being over-sensitive, and over-reacting about something that most of us agree on, that gaming journos are not ones to be blindly believed. No one trolled. If they did, their posts would've been deleted and they would've been warned. You talk about how PES is praised and untouchable, now that's rubbish and you know it. The last 2-3 years the PES threads were a place if one dared to say anything positive about the game the bullies would crusade in lecturing and trolling making sure PES-fans get turned off and think twice about posting anything positive again.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with posting about the rival game in either threads every now and then as long as it's civilized. A little harmless banter and sarcasm here and there shouldn't be a problem.

Please, try not to over-react next time. And this goes to everyone as well.

Thanks.
 
You choose a time for it to auto download (I've set mine to 4am to 6am).

The UK PS store doesn't have a set time that it updates.
 
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