hiquekb
Banned
- 23 December 2006
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
hahahahaha
what difficulty are you playing? begginer ?
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PES 2009 General Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA TALK OR POLITICAL CHAT)
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Nick Cave
Wrexham fan for my sins...
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Mate you don't have to be sorry that's not off topic anyway...
Mate you don't have to be sorry that's not off topic anyway...
oFifa09o
Banned
- 16 September 2008
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
sstrangely i did that too...
sstrangely i did that too...
zangbezan
Browned
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Well i beat the CPU with like 3-4 Goals every 5 Mins Match on Top Player on PES 08 and on PES 09 its deffo much harder.
danhammer
Champions League
- 23 February 2004
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
yes mate, is it a problem for you?
yes mate, is it a problem for you?
pnk
Tonight Is The Night
- 24 July 2007
- Palermo
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Demo Is Nice
Demo Is Nice
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Everyone seems to be condemning PES 2009 based on the demo.
I remember when the Leipzeig convention took place the demo on show that day was universally condemned. Is this the version we have been playing or a later one??
The reason I ask is that I have heard that people have played later versions of the game in which they have said it is much better and more 'polished'.
If this is true then it may be a case of 'wait and see' as opposed to dismissing it completely, already.
Is anyone able to clarify my argument or not?
Everyone seems to be condemning PES 2009 based on the demo.
I remember when the Leipzeig convention took place the demo on show that day was universally condemned. Is this the version we have been playing or a later one??
The reason I ask is that I have heard that people have played later versions of the game in which they have said it is much better and more 'polished'.
If this is true then it may be a case of 'wait and see' as opposed to dismissing it completely, already.
Is anyone able to clarify my argument or not?
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
this demo is already the more "polished" version, that is the bad new. last year people were with the same hope, that the final game would be better than the demo, but it was exactly the same sh***. i guess this year will be the same, the final version will be 95% the same of the demo...
this demo is already the more "polished" version, that is the bad new. last year people were with the same hope, that the final game would be better than the demo, but it was exactly the same sh***. i guess this year will be the same, the final version will be 95% the same of the demo...
gerd
Retired Footballer
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Golden 28, if i remember well, it was Thomasgoal who knew that the demo is from the final version (well i'm sure somebody said that, i'm not sure if it was Thomasgoal).
Hiquekb, was that necessary ????
And BWA spectre while i agree with you, you seem on a crusade...are you payed by EA ????
I also think i prefer FIFA but what's wrong with people who like PES ???? Let's respect each other's opinion....
Golden 28, if i remember well, it was Thomasgoal who knew that the demo is from the final version (well i'm sure somebody said that, i'm not sure if it was Thomasgoal).
Hiquekb, was that necessary ????
And BWA spectre while i agree with you, you seem on a crusade...are you payed by EA ????
I also think i prefer FIFA but what's wrong with people who like PES ???? Let's respect each other's opinion....
danhammer
Champions League
- 23 February 2004
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
don't you remember playing pes2008 demo and thinking how bad it was and then the usual suspects were saying "it's just the demo, the retail version will be so much better", but it wasn't at all...well after playing pes2009 demo i'm not holding my breath...because the only improvement i can see is the pitch...much better than previous pitches but is that all they have been working on all year???
don't you remember playing pes2008 demo and thinking how bad it was and then the usual suspects were saying "it's just the demo, the retail version will be so much better", but it wasn't at all...well after playing pes2009 demo i'm not holding my breath...because the only improvement i can see is the pitch...much better than previous pitches but is that all they have been working on all year???
hiquekb
Banned
- 23 December 2006
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
filthydani did it saying that it was sooo easy to score goals.. so i asked him what difficulty was he playing, cause it's not easy to socre goals on top player difficulty..
and i don't like fifa as you said, and no, i'm not payed by neither EA and Konami, i only play the game i prefer and think is better: PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER ( 2009 )
mate i didn't say that as an 'offense' to PES..
filthydani did it saying that it was sooo easy to score goals.. so i asked him what difficulty was he playing, cause it's not easy to socre goals on top player difficulty..
and i don't like fifa as you said, and no, i'm not payed by neither EA and Konami, i only play the game i prefer and think is better: PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER ( 2009 )
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Oh dear. Thanks for the replies guys.
Unfortunately it was the news I was dreading. I really can't believe that in a ten month development cycle this is all Seabass and the team can come up with.
I have hired FIFA09 and for the first time in my life I can honestly say that they have tried really hard to improve on previous versions and recreate a good simulation of football. It's not perfect and does not flow as well as Pro Evo but it is damn good and is well on the way to becoming better than Pro. It still does not warrant a purchase IMHO though.
It looks like for once I may not buy any football games this year apart from Football Manager. At least that never lets me down.
Oh dear. Thanks for the replies guys.
Unfortunately it was the news I was dreading. I really can't believe that in a ten month development cycle this is all Seabass and the team can come up with.
I have hired FIFA09 and for the first time in my life I can honestly say that they have tried really hard to improve on previous versions and recreate a good simulation of football. It's not perfect and does not flow as well as Pro Evo but it is damn good and is well on the way to becoming better than Pro. It still does not warrant a purchase IMHO though.
It looks like for once I may not buy any football games this year apart from Football Manager. At least that never lets me down.
Punzz
Purple Monkey Dishwasher
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Class game!
Class game!
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Wow. Download the demo. Would have done it earlier but it seemed to be causing my 360 to crash on Thursday.
It's absolutely awful. It just makes FIFA look good. I know it's opinions and all that, but personally, I can't see how any review, EVER, could prefer PES. It's nonsensical, to me. Even on gameplay alone, which is the only area PES tends to stand up, it's just... no.
Wow. Download the demo. Would have done it earlier but it seemed to be causing my 360 to crash on Thursday.
It's absolutely awful. It just makes FIFA look good. I know it's opinions and all that, but personally, I can't see how any review, EVER, could prefer PES. It's nonsensical, to me. Even on gameplay alone, which is the only area PES tends to stand up, it's just... no.
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Sorry to be so pessimistic and, believe me, I am a massive fan of Pro. Been playing it since I was a young lad.
But, it really is so dissapointing that nothing has changed much from 08 which still plays a nice game of football don't get me wrong, it's just that I was expecting so much more than just a few new animations.
The running animation for example is nothing short of comical and I was prepared to begrudgingly put up with it last year fully expecting it to be corrected this time around.
I mean does Seabass honestly think this is how footballers run? It's a small and insignifcant thing I know but for me it highlights the bigger problem...sheer lack of progression and a show of lazyness on the developers part.
You may think I'm one of those stereotypical moaners but I really really want the day to return when every October I would be so excited about the new version coming out. I used to have house parties centred around PES where me and the boys would all get lashed and have tournies but since going next gen it hardly even registers a heartbeat, when; in fairness, it should be something very special. Boo :-##
Sorry to be so pessimistic and, believe me, I am a massive fan of Pro. Been playing it since I was a young lad.
But, it really is so dissapointing that nothing has changed much from 08 which still plays a nice game of football don't get me wrong, it's just that I was expecting so much more than just a few new animations.
The running animation for example is nothing short of comical and I was prepared to begrudgingly put up with it last year fully expecting it to be corrected this time around.
I mean does Seabass honestly think this is how footballers run? It's a small and insignifcant thing I know but for me it highlights the bigger problem...sheer lack of progression and a show of lazyness on the developers part.
You may think I'm one of those stereotypical moaners but I really really want the day to return when every October I would be so excited about the new version coming out. I used to have house parties centred around PES where me and the boys would all get lashed and have tournies but since going next gen it hardly even registers a heartbeat, when; in fairness, it should be something very special. Boo :-##
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Hell yes :applaud:
Class game!
Hell yes :applaud:
shieldslfc
League 1
- 25 April 2004
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
I played the demo with Liverpool, my team, was so looking forward to it, because this year is the first time ever LFC are officialy licensed, but it still doesn't save it, its simply not good enough. The chants are a real shocker, its unplayable because of them.
And why are they so bad, theres no excuse, how simple is it to sample decent crowd chants. For those of you who beleive they will fix stuff like this, well wake up, Konami are lazy arse wankers, who again for the 3rd year in a row have let the fans down. Surely even the most loyal fans must be angered by the crowd chants alone, it just summerises Konami's attitude. . they dont give a shit anymore!!!
I wont be buying until they re-write the whole game.
I played the demo with Liverpool, my team, was so looking forward to it, because this year is the first time ever LFC are officialy licensed, but it still doesn't save it, its simply not good enough. The chants are a real shocker, its unplayable because of them.
And why are they so bad, theres no excuse, how simple is it to sample decent crowd chants. For those of you who beleive they will fix stuff like this, well wake up, Konami are lazy arse wankers, who again for the 3rd year in a row have let the fans down. Surely even the most loyal fans must be angered by the crowd chants alone, it just summerises Konami's attitude. . they dont give a shit anymore!!!
I wont be buying until they re-write the whole game.
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astirling
League 2
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
lol. every year people make this post. every year they find out that the demo is representative of the final release. Why would Konami put out a demo which made their final release look worse than it actually is?
lol. every year people make this post. every year they find out that the demo is representative of the final release. Why would Konami put out a demo which made their final release look worse than it actually is?
Zakov
Championship
- 13 June 2004
- Chelsea
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
no m8, but its not like we give a $hit whether u did or not. Just a thought.
Now, if u bought the game and ended up burning seabass in effigy, that would be a story worth telling.
no m8, but its not like we give a $hit whether u did or not. Just a thought.
Now, if u bought the game and ended up burning seabass in effigy, that would be a story worth telling.
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kobashi
Champions League
- 19 May 2004
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
I dont get the chants, I mean you might aswell not have them at all if your gonna have the rubbish Konami have put in. Seabass and his team have sampled live games and watch TV so how they came up with these chants I will never know..
I dont get the chants, I mean you might aswell not have them at all if your gonna have the rubbish Konami have put in. Seabass and his team have sampled live games and watch TV so how they came up with these chants I will never know..
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
It looks like for once I may not buy any football games this year apart from Football Manager. At least that never lets me down.[/QUOTE]
haven't played champ man (still call it that) for three years but 3d engine has me excited.
A few pages back i suggested 2k games to enter football market......
but si games already has the most realistic football game engine on the market...
so my question to you Mr collyer is this: how much longer will you keep us waiting before your team releases your pro evo/fifa killer?
It looks like for once I may not buy any football games this year apart from Football Manager. At least that never lets me down.[/QUOTE]
haven't played champ man (still call it that) for three years but 3d engine has me excited.
A few pages back i suggested 2k games to enter football market......
but si games already has the most realistic football game engine on the market...
so my question to you Mr collyer is this: how much longer will you keep us waiting before your team releases your pro evo/fifa killer?
Emanuel
Portuguese
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Well, as there are a lot of PES fan boys here that can´t respect opinions I won´t post at this thread anymore, I will just play my FIFA 09 and enjoy it. See you next year on PES 2010 if the game is decent. Cheers and enjoy your Robotic Tsubasa Evo Bugs Soccer.
Well, as there are a lot of PES fan boys here that can´t respect opinions I won´t post at this thread anymore, I will just play my FIFA 09 and enjoy it. See you next year on PES 2010 if the game is decent. Cheers and enjoy your Robotic Tsubasa Evo Bugs Soccer.
who me
Banned
- 1 April 2008
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
bye
and good look .now you can go to play in schematic,boring fifa with good animations on your xbox3600.
bye
and good look .now you can go to play in schematic,boring fifa with good animations on your xbox3600.
Emanuel
Portuguese
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
It´s not xbox360, it´s PS3, and it is Real Football and this year there are even more tactical options than FM
It´s not xbox360, it´s PS3, and it is Real Football and this year there are even more tactical options than FM
who me
Banned
- 1 April 2008
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Good to know . I hope to see more your posts like ,, i love fifa,pls tell me that i have right ,,
real football is schematic like fifa ? huh i didnt know :/
wanna be provocateur ? tell it to admin first and ask him what he think about fifa ;]
Good to know . I hope to see more your posts like ,, i love fifa,pls tell me that i have right ,,
real football is schematic like fifa ? huh i didnt know :/
wanna be provocateur ? tell it to admin first and ask him what he think about fifa ;]
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oFifa09o
Banned
- 16 September 2008
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Hehehe...while I agree with you, let me remind you what Voltaire said:
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
It´s not xbox360, it´s PS3, and it is Real Football and this year there are even more tactical options than FM
Hehehe...while I agree with you, let me remind you what Voltaire said:
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Played about ten matches now.
It's shocking, truly, truly shocking. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. Seriously, I'm not saying people don't have the right to their own opinion. But y'know. Some people like to believe they are Napolean, but don't go around saying it's the truth. PES is maybe a decent arcadey type game if you want a laugh with the mates but it really is years, even decades perhaps behind the rest of the sports games industry, and it doesn't really matter what you believe because that is a fact.
As far as I'm concerned it's going to be two to three years before PES even has a chance of competing with FIFA again, and that's only IF they start developing a next-gen engine now or even have done already.
Played about ten matches now.
It's shocking, truly, truly shocking. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. Seriously, I'm not saying people don't have the right to their own opinion. But y'know. Some people like to believe they are Napolean, but don't go around saying it's the truth. PES is maybe a decent arcadey type game if you want a laugh with the mates but it really is years, even decades perhaps behind the rest of the sports games industry, and it doesn't really matter what you believe because that is a fact.
As far as I'm concerned it's going to be two to three years before PES even has a chance of competing with FIFA again, and that's only IF they start developing a next-gen engine now or even have done already.
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