PES 2009 General Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA TALK OR POLITICAL CHAT)

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so, wheres the nike boots?
anyone knows if theyre not present only in the demo? or was the nike deal broken?
 
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Pes 2009 is better than pes 2008 but its not enough to be better than fifa 2009 sry maybe pes is better again in 2 years (hope so)
 
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no sorry. fifa (xbox36) is boring after few days.I like fifa animations but it is not eenough to be better than pes2009. If pes2009 online will be ok - i buy it.
 
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Well, now after 2 days of the demo release, and after playing around 30-40 matches, and after a mini cup I had today in my house with some friends, I have to say I´m dissapointed. And why? Well... this game is much better than PES 2008, but 2008 was totally crap, is not that hard to be better than pes 2008.

My friends didn´t like the game for many reasons. Some didn´t like it because "it´s too slow" or "too hard" and "you have no control over the passes and shots" and "bad response". Well I don´t think the game is too slow or too hard. I think it´s good like that (mayvbe they were sad because I beat them all with my passing style ihihihih). However I agree that you don´t have much control over some passes and shots.

But the main reason why I am dissapointed is that after 30matches I´m bored.. I don´t have that old PES excitement. And why? because the animations are the same as always. There are 3 or 4 new animations. That´s not enough. We have nothing new to see. This game engine must be changed. They must create a new game engine with realistic movements. The player runs are ridiculous, they seem like a Japanese Cartoon (tsubasa). This game is more realistic than PES 2008 but it is not realistic as it should be in the year 2008, with PS3. I´m bored. This year I´m on to play FIFA 09. Realistic football, many tactical options, midfield battle, build up, a lot of animations. That´s it. If I buy PES2009 it will be only to play with friends, as usually no one wants to play fifa multiplayer, because the game is too realistic and you have to play very good to see results.

That´s it. Konami need to do something different. I have to say I´m (was) a huge pes fanboy but that´s enough of it. They lost again, they need to make the game realistic in gameplay and visuals.

I don´t understand how someone who loves real football as I do, can say that PES 2009 is more realistic than FIFA. I think who plays PES nowadays are the ones who like to play videogames a lot, and just want fun. And the ppl that play FIFA, like to see football matches and love football, and than play FIFA to simulate the real life sport.

That´s my opinion. Dissapointed again. I want real football, I want FIFA 09 :)
 
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It is impressive how more and more fans of PES (including me) are converting to FIFA. What did you do konami? How is possible in 2 games ruin 10 years of succes? Arrogance?
 
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Fifa (xbox36) is schematic and boring after 50 games.its not like ,,real football,,
 
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Fifa (xbox36) is schematic and boring after 50 games.its not like ,,real football,,

PES (xbox36) is schematic and boring after 3 games.its not like ,,real football,,
 
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ok , ok fanboy. Good to know your point of view but for many people fifa (xbox) is boring. you can cry and cry but its true.Maybe you like schematic game and zombie faces but dont try to tell other peoples what is better.
 
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You said exactlty the same thing, just you said FIFA instead of PES, so you can't call someone else a fanboy :-ll.
 
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any one how to do the tricks on 2009? and all this real football stuff if its real football go outside and join a real team its a game just like fifa
 
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Until FIFA looks good, I won't be playing it. Gatusso is not related to E.T. or a Resident Evil baddie.
 
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FIFA_09_versus_pro_evolution_soccer_2009_comparison_010.jpg


Until FIFA looks good, I won't be playing it. Gatusso is not related to E.T. or a Resident Evil baddie.

But thats pc version, and fifa on pc always sucks.
 
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with this progression, it would take 10 years to make a decent game, i just feel like punchin seabass in the face...its better than 2008, but thats not enough, it seems they are running out of ideas, thats why they dont want to try thier best, and instead of adding new stuff to the game, they actually remove some things like drag back, r2 dribble, 8 bars in controllin settings, i just wish that people dont buy this game and make konami lose money otherwise thigns will be like that for long, seabass should try to get more devolpers if thats what he needs, ps3 is much more complicated than ps2..
 
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so, wheres the nike boots?
anyone knows if theyre not present only in the demo? or was the nike deal broken?


Don't worry, in the final build "Nike Air Legend II(white)" will take the place of "green boots"; "Nike Mercurial Blue" will take the place of "violet boots" and "Total 90 II (red)" will take the place of "yellow boots"...Ronaldinho boots aswell will be in the final game...:COOL:
 
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Don't worry, in the final build "Nike Air Legend II(white)" will take the place of "green boots"; "Nike Mercurial Blue" will take the place of "violet boots" and "Total 90 II (red)" will take the place of "yellow boots"...Ronaldinho boots aswell will be in the final game...:COOL:

Because that's what's wrong with the demo.
 
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ok , ok fanboy. Good to know your point of view but for many people fifa (xbox) is boring. you can cry and cry but its true.Maybe you like schematic game and zombie faces but dont try to tell other peoples what is better.

:LOL: You do realize that you're doing the same thing right? Keep your mouth shut fool.
 
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I had a positive experience with the PES2009 demo as well. This is probably because all I want from this PES - like yourself I think - is the classic PES gameplay done justice to on a next-gen console. I think PES2009 should be that. The signs are looking good.

And I loved the shooting!

But it'll be a very long time - if ever - before the sheer cynicism of last year's debacle is forgiven or forgotten. I'll never forget the raw dismay, the whole bottom-is-falling-out-of-reality feeling I got when I loaded up PES2008 on my PS3 and saw the v-sync screen tearing, the frame drops, the stop-motion replays, and the absurdist toytown racing about of all the players.

Konami pushed that game out the door knowing it was incomplete, and knowing that mugs like me would buy it anyway. Two 130MB patches later - months later - and it was just about acceptable. Online play was NEVER fixed.

So Konami do eat babies in that respect.

Agreed there, my expectations weren't high at all this year. After 08 I just wanted a playable next gen PES with a decent edit mode. If Online works this year I'll be even happier as any game instantly becomes more fun if the multiplayer is good.

Judging by some of the in depth negative analysis I think some people expected Konami to invent the flying car this year. I'll admit my eyebrow raised slightly when I saw we were getting a 2009 release. The trouble is with next gen development, it is a lot harder and has to be done on a much grander scale than the PS2. Whereas Konami could easily churn out a new game every 12 months on the PS2 I don't think a company of their size can really compete with EAs resources on that front. I think the only way Konami could have churned out a near perfect next gen PES would be to skip a year and release in 2010. Look at the GTA games, it took them 4 years between San Andreas and GTA:IV. Even then although IV was amazing it wasn't without it's faults. I do wonder how much pressure Seabass and Co are under from Konami to wheel out a new PES every October without fail?

Just when I thought it was safe to bury the memory of 08, I could SWEAR I heard "Football....Soccer" playing on the stadium P.A. during Half time in the demo. I shuddered straight away.
 
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Well, now after 2 days of the demo release, and after playing around 30-40 matches, and after a mini cup I had today in my house with some friends, I have to say I´m dissapointed. And why? Well... this game is much better than PES 2008, but 2008 was totally crap, is not that hard to be better than pes 2008.

My friends didn´t like the game for many reasons. Some didn´t like it because "it´s too slow" or "too hard" and "you have no control over the passes and shots" and "bad response". Well I don´t think the game is too slow or too hard. I think it´s good like that (mayvbe they were sad because I beat them all with my passing style ihihihih). However I agree that you don´t have much control over some passes and shots.

But the main reason why I am dissapointed is that after 30matches I´m bored.. I don´t have that old PES excitement. And why? because the animations are the same as always. There are 3 or 4 new animations. That´s not enough. We have nothing new to see. This game engine must be changed. They must create a new game engine with realistic movements. The player runs are ridiculous, they seem like a Japanese Cartoon (tsubasa). This game is more realistic than PES 2008 but it is not realistic as it should be in the year 2008, with PS3. I´m bored. This year I´m on to play FIFA 09. Realistic football, many tactical options, midfield battle, build up, a lot of animations. That´s it. If I buy PES2009 it will be only to play with friends, as usually no one wants to play fifa multiplayer, because the game is too realistic and you have to play very good to see results.

That´s it. Konami need to do something different. I have to say I´m (was) a huge pes fanboy but that´s enough of it. They lost again, they need to make the game realistic in gameplay and visuals.

I don´t understand how someone who loves real football as I do, can say that PES 2009 is more realistic than FIFA. I think who plays PES nowadays are the ones who like to play videogames a lot, and just want fun. And the ppl that play FIFA, like to see football matches and love football, and than play FIFA to simulate the real life sport.

That´s my opinion. Dissapointed again. I want real football, I want FIFA 09 :)

Wow, you just did a total 180 there! You 1st impression was quite different wasn't it, well I'm glad another 1 has finally opened his eyes.
 
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Yes mate. As I use to say, I´m a fanboy but a fair one... and I love real football much more than FIFA or PES. So I choose to play the realistic one. And in the present FIFA 09 is all I´m looking for in a footbal videogame because PES is a videogame and FIFA is a footbal Simulator.

It´s just a shame we can´t load our custom formations in online mode (if I´m wrong let me know).
 
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Yes mate. As I use to say, I´m a fanboy but a fair one... and I love real football much more than FIFA or PES. So I choose to play the realistic one. And in the present FIFA 09 is all I´m looking for in a footbal videogame because PES is a videogame and FIFA is a footbal Simulator.

It´s just a shame we can´t load our custom formations in online mode (if I´m wrong let me know).

:SHOCK:... Damn all we need now is badger to come on and praise FIFA and then I know the whole world has flip flopped...
 
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Well, now after 2 days of the demo release, and after playing around 30-40 matches, and after a mini cup I had today in my house with some friends, I have to say I´m dissapointed. And why? Well... this game is much better than PES 2008, but 2008 was totally crap, is not that hard to be better than pes 2008.

My friends didn´t like the game for many reasons. Some didn´t like it because "it´s too slow" or "too hard" and "you have no control over the passes and shots" and "bad response". Well I don´t think the game is too slow or too hard. I think it´s good like that (mayvbe they were sad because I beat them all with my passing style ihihihih). However I agree that you don´t have much control over some passes and shots.

But the main reason why I am dissapointed is that after 30matches I´m bored.. I don´t have that old PES excitement. And why? because the animations are the same as always. There are 3 or 4 new animations. That´s not enough. We have nothing new to see. This game engine must be changed. They must create a new game engine with realistic movements. The player runs are ridiculous, they seem like a Japanese Cartoon (tsubasa). This game is more realistic than PES 2008 but it is not realistic as it should be in the year 2008, with PS3. I´m bored. This year I´m on to play FIFA 09. Realistic football, many tactical options, midfield battle, build up, a lot of animations. That´s it. If I buy PES2009 it will be only to play with friends, as usually no one wants to play fifa multiplayer, because the game is too realistic and you have to play very good to see results.

That´s it. Konami need to do something different. I have to say I´m (was) a huge pes fanboy but that´s enough of it. They lost again, they need to make the game realistic in gameplay and visuals.

I don´t understand how someone who loves real football as I do, can say that PES 2009 is more realistic than FIFA. I think who plays PES nowadays are the ones who like to play videogames a lot, and just want fun. And the ppl that play FIFA, like to see football matches and love football, and than play FIFA to simulate the real life sport.

That´s my opinion. Dissapointed again. I want real football, I want FIFA 09 :)

I commend you. Not because I agree with you but cause you are not biased and afraid of "betraying" PES. Many here I think would love to be honest about it too but to them its a religion. Its kind of like that old car that cant run anymore. Your mind tells you to junk it but your heart says no cause of the strong ties to PES. I think little by little people will realise that you have to let some things in life go. Moving on isn't so bad.
 
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Yes mate. As I use to say, I´m a fanboy but a fair one... and I love real football much more than FIFA or PES. So I choose to play the realistic one. And in the present FIFA 09 is all I´m looking for in a footbal videogame because PES is a videogame and FIFA is a footbal Simulator.

It´s just a shame we can´t load our custom formations in online mode (if I´m wrong let me know).

I'm sure you're wrong.....as EA made such a fuss over your ability to do exactly that. I haven't tried it but maybe you need to save them in your online locker? You can download other people's formations from here as well.

Any.....wandering OT. This is the official PES bashing thread. No fifa chat allowed. ;-)
 
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Agreed there, my expectations weren't high at all this year. After 08 I just wanted a playable next gen PES with a decent edit mode. If Online works this year I'll be even happier as any game instantly becomes more fun if the multiplayer is good.

Why would you just settle for a playable game? I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, but do you think it's worth paying 40 quid for a game that's simply playable with a decent edit mode an online mode that actually works?
 
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I've played both Demo's now, and while some of the movement in FIFA was really impressive, the game as a whole is just as flawed and irritating as PES - just in different ways. Fuck knows what some of you have been raving about, you've just swapped one set of problems for another as far as I can see.

They're both 'ok'. Anyone who thinks either one is brilliant needs to lay off the horse tranquilisers.

My personal preference is for PES this time round, I've just had more fun playing it than FIFA, but neither blew my socks off.
 
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After playing a few more games. I thought, why not, let me give it a chance. But, now, I really dislike it more. If Im allowed to be honest, Id say that the game is attrocious and those who say its better than fifa 09 are on some really good drugs. Just my opinion though. What do I know?
 
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Well, now after 2 days of the demo release, and after playing around 30-40 matches, and after a mini cup I had today in my house with some friends, I have to say I´m dissapointed. And why? Well... this game is much better than PES 2008, but 2008 was totally crap, is not that hard to be better than pes 2008.

My friends didn´t like the game for many reasons. Some didn´t like it because "it´s too slow" or "too hard" and "you have no control over the passes and shots" and "bad response". Well I don´t think the game is too slow or too hard. I think it´s good like that (mayvbe they were sad because I beat them all with my passing style ihihihih). However I agree that you don´t have much control over some passes and shots.

But the main reason why I am dissapointed is that after 30matches I´m bored.. I don´t have that old PES excitement. And why? because the animations are the same as always. There are 3 or 4 new animations. That´s not enough. We have nothing new to see. This game engine must be changed. They must create a new game engine with realistic movements. The player runs are ridiculous, they seem like a Japanese Cartoon (tsubasa). This game is more realistic than PES 2008 but it is not realistic as it should be in the year 2008, with PS3. I´m bored. This year I´m on to play FIFA 09. Realistic football, many tactical options, midfield battle, build up, a lot of animations. That´s it. If I buy PES2009 it will be only to play with friends, as usually no one wants to play fifa multiplayer, because the game is too realistic and you have to play very good to see results.

That´s it. Konami need to do something different. I have to say I´m (was) a huge pes fanboy but that´s enough of it. They lost again, they need to make the game realistic in gameplay and visuals.

I don´t understand how someone who loves real football as I do, can say that PES 2009 is more realistic than FIFA. I think who plays PES nowadays are the ones who like to play videogames a lot, and just want fun. And the ppl that play FIFA, like to see football matches and love football, and than play FIFA to simulate the real life sport.

That´s my opinion. Dissapointed again. I want real football, I want FIFA 09 :)

Well, i have to agree with you... COMPLETELY!
PES 2009 is, in fact, a PES 2008.5. That is it.
This game (PES 2009, demo of course) is what the PES 2008 should be. But now is too late. It's time to try a new game, and i think FIFA 09 (the demo) was great and very realistic. So, i supose, the final version will be great.

PES, see you next year.

PS: Sorry for may bad english.
 
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I've played both Demo's now, and while some of the movement in FIFA was really impressive, the game as a whole is just as flawed and irritating as PES - just in different ways. Fuck knows what some of you have been raving about, you've just swapped one set of problems for another as far as I can see.

They're both 'ok'. Anyone who thinks either one is brilliant needs to lay off the horse tranquilisers.

My personal preference is for PES this time round, I've just had more fun playing it than FIFA, but neither blew my socks off.

I did the same, went back and tried the FIFA demo, and find that it's just another flawed game. I don't care which is better, neither feel deserving of my money.
 
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That´s my opinion. Dissapointed again. I want real football, I want FIFA 09 :)


Come on over to the dark side that is Fifa Emanuel

Like you i was a PES fan boy but not anymore. I played the PES09 demo a lot yesterday but when i bought and really got into Fifa09 for about six hours in total today I can say it’s the real football simulation and superior in every way to PES09 including gameplay its so good .
I used to hate Fifa when it was arcade it wasn’t until last year that I started to take interest.
Konami have not taken on board gamers criticisms of PES08 but EA have listened to their customers and have vastly improved their product in every department They deserve praise they have done a hell of a job.

As I said elsewhere -

Sadly no matter how good Fifa 09 is many people wont buy it out of brand loyalty to Konami. Its like someone refusing to swap his Fiat Panda for a Ferrari because he likes Fiats. Much like the emperors new clothes story in many ways people cant or dont want to see the truth.
Lets be honest after playing the PES09 demo solid yesterday and Fifa09 today there is no comparison.
People can spend their money whatever way the want but the choice this year is like a Steak Dinner or a dogs turd sandwich.
 
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Wow, you just did a total 180 there! You 1st impression was quite different wasn't it, well I'm glad another 1 has finally opened his eyes.

What a pathetic opinion, my Lord!!!

Because he is bashing/not liking the game, means he opened his eyes?
I hate this kind of arrogancy. Those who think like you are right and unbiased, the other are just fanboys. So SAD. Of course this does not surprise me since you are at this thread just to bash the game.

This is not about you Emanuel, I respect your point view and if you consider FIFA your game, good for you. Be happy. Respect :)

Sadly no matter how good Fifa 09 is many people wont buy it out of brand loyalty to Konami. Its like someone refusing to swap his Fiat Panda for a Ferrari because he likes Fiats. Much like the emperors new clothes story in many ways people cant or dont want to see the truth.
Lets be honest after playing the PES09 demo solid yesterday and Fifa09 today there is no comparison.
People can spend their money whatever way the want but the choice this year is like a Steak Dinner or a dogs turd sandwich.

Yeah, and if you dont like FIFA you are some kind of moron, right?

People cant realise that FIFA are not the game for everybody, as well as PES wasn't in the PS2 era since a lot of people played FIFA in those times. I hate the attitude of "we are right, the rest are so blind". Learn to respect people who likes the game buddies... it is difficult but make an effort.
 
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Well I have bought FIFA for the first time after playing the demo and its really good. It flows really nice and the atmosphere is qaulity. I have been jumping up and down when scoring or going close just like I used to do with pes. As for Pes this year....im underwelmed but the more I have played the demo it gets better. I will still buy pes because I have loved it since the beginning, but Konami have got to up the game in 2010.
 
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