SaintScott
League 1
- 17 December 2002
Re: PES 2009 News Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA DEMO IMPRESSIONS OR POLITICAL CHA
Well, I've been playing the game since 7pm, with a 60 minute break for housemate stroppiness, and I've only JUST put it down, bearing in mind I have to be in work for 7. Xbox360 version...
And I bloody love it.
Yeah, there's no untucked shirt in edit mode. Yeah I'm still crap and haven't learned any tricks, yeah the ball does a little thunk - which I don't really notice, yeah there's still a little bit of rail scripting - if not rail running - and yeah, if that Nike boot license doesn't come through some of the boots are going to look rubbish. And no, they don't have all the licenses, and some of the collisions can be flaky on frame by frame replays.
But I just LOVE it. I've been playing since discovering ISS PE on PSX at a mate's house in Southport in 1999, and after last year's calamity, I am SO glad it IS Pro Evo.
There's a cadence to the game, too much running gets you nowhere just like it used to, sticking your foot on the ball and knocking it around a bit is possible, you can shield the ball and the fouls surrounding it are realistic. You get sent off for hacking people down and usually deserve it, and the CPU gets booked a lot more for bad tackles too. I was playing Top Player (and I'm crap against the CPU and always have been), and I found I'd be losing, but only by the odd goal or two, and due to my own mistakes.
I switched the manual select STRAIGHT off after one game of utter confusion, went to semi-manual and found even then the off the ball movement was impressive and realistic - the CPU now plays passes to players in space, and seems to cheat far FAR less with rebounds and scripting.
All the people complaining about the keepers must not watch live football, because they are extremely realistic. They almost always do what I'd expect of a top keeper, parrying wide of the goal, holding the weaker shots, and making one handed stops and sometimes blocking with their feet. In about 4 and a half hours of playing (call it 2 and a half due to that bloody video) I saw the keeper palm the ball back into a dangerous position TWICE - once was just a bad save, the other was from a powerful shot and looked very realistic. And trust me, I spent a lot of time defending !
Didn't notice any diving, I did see some shirt pulling, they appear to have toned the overhead kicks down again after ramping them up last year (I didn't see one) and (once I'd stopped trying to use it to dribble far ahead) the simple manual pass is an awesome little addition, giving new dimensions to set pieces and open play - I've never used it before since they made it an R3 click, as I could never keep the click in the right direction. It's much simpler and more intuitive.
There's been a lot said that it's 2008 fixed, and yes, it is (assuming online works), because they've sorted
1) Hyper dribbling - you can't do it any more, it only works in the right situation.
2) Frame drop on replays - replays are back to perfect
3) Tragically bad goalies - they are realistic, they do deflect a lot but usually safely.
4) Stupid defending - I didn't see ANY (that wasn't done by me)
It's by no means a perfect game (assuming they release THIS version of the gameplay and nothing else), and Konami really need to sort their arses out with online modes, some of the smaller details and the number of clubs, countries and a competition edit mode, but in terms of the game itself, I haven't wanted to play a game over and over THIS much since Winning Eleven 10 on PS2 in 2006.
Let's hope the retail version has this gameplay, it's great.
Consider me well chuffed and happy to spend the £35(ish) as long as it plays like that. Now if I can just sneak the HDTV upstairs...
Well, I've been playing the game since 7pm, with a 60 minute break for housemate stroppiness, and I've only JUST put it down, bearing in mind I have to be in work for 7. Xbox360 version...
And I bloody love it.
Yeah, there's no untucked shirt in edit mode. Yeah I'm still crap and haven't learned any tricks, yeah the ball does a little thunk - which I don't really notice, yeah there's still a little bit of rail scripting - if not rail running - and yeah, if that Nike boot license doesn't come through some of the boots are going to look rubbish. And no, they don't have all the licenses, and some of the collisions can be flaky on frame by frame replays.
But I just LOVE it. I've been playing since discovering ISS PE on PSX at a mate's house in Southport in 1999, and after last year's calamity, I am SO glad it IS Pro Evo.
There's a cadence to the game, too much running gets you nowhere just like it used to, sticking your foot on the ball and knocking it around a bit is possible, you can shield the ball and the fouls surrounding it are realistic. You get sent off for hacking people down and usually deserve it, and the CPU gets booked a lot more for bad tackles too. I was playing Top Player (and I'm crap against the CPU and always have been), and I found I'd be losing, but only by the odd goal or two, and due to my own mistakes.
I switched the manual select STRAIGHT off after one game of utter confusion, went to semi-manual and found even then the off the ball movement was impressive and realistic - the CPU now plays passes to players in space, and seems to cheat far FAR less with rebounds and scripting.
All the people complaining about the keepers must not watch live football, because they are extremely realistic. They almost always do what I'd expect of a top keeper, parrying wide of the goal, holding the weaker shots, and making one handed stops and sometimes blocking with their feet. In about 4 and a half hours of playing (call it 2 and a half due to that bloody video) I saw the keeper palm the ball back into a dangerous position TWICE - once was just a bad save, the other was from a powerful shot and looked very realistic. And trust me, I spent a lot of time defending !
Didn't notice any diving, I did see some shirt pulling, they appear to have toned the overhead kicks down again after ramping them up last year (I didn't see one) and (once I'd stopped trying to use it to dribble far ahead) the simple manual pass is an awesome little addition, giving new dimensions to set pieces and open play - I've never used it before since they made it an R3 click, as I could never keep the click in the right direction. It's much simpler and more intuitive.
There's been a lot said that it's 2008 fixed, and yes, it is (assuming online works), because they've sorted
1) Hyper dribbling - you can't do it any more, it only works in the right situation.
2) Frame drop on replays - replays are back to perfect
3) Tragically bad goalies - they are realistic, they do deflect a lot but usually safely.
4) Stupid defending - I didn't see ANY (that wasn't done by me)
It's by no means a perfect game (assuming they release THIS version of the gameplay and nothing else), and Konami really need to sort their arses out with online modes, some of the smaller details and the number of clubs, countries and a competition edit mode, but in terms of the game itself, I haven't wanted to play a game over and over THIS much since Winning Eleven 10 on PS2 in 2006.
Let's hope the retail version has this gameplay, it's great.
Consider me well chuffed and happy to spend the £35(ish) as long as it plays like that. Now if I can just sneak the HDTV upstairs...
