PES 2009 General Discussion Etc. (STRICTLY NO FIFA TALK OR POLITICAL CHAT)

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That manual player switching was in previous PES games, and it can't really be called "fully manual control"... That would give you control over the exact power/placement of passes and shots, it doesn't.

Not to mention that seemingly removed the "manual" option, meaning that you either have to use the new Manual mode where you have to press L1 every pass, or you have to use Semi-Manual, and risk having the cursor changed automatically when defending (unless they thought of that somehow).

You have manual passing in PES, a longe time ago. And this year they changed the controls so it´s easier to perform them. As for shots I have a full control over them, using R2. I I aim the top corner and the player has good shooting stats+curling (raul, deco) the ball goes exactly where I want it to be. But for sure it doesn´t work all the time, otherwise it would be unrealistic. And yes I know fifa has full manual control over the passes but even FIFA world champ doesn´t use it, Only Semi in shooting and sem in crosses. You can play full manual passing in FIFA but it doesn´t give you any advantage. I played fifa and euro 2008 and I could score goals and build up with auto pass. And it would be much better if you can choose during the game if you want a normal pass or a full manual one like in PES (different buttons). In FIFA if you turn passes to full manual you have to do all your short passes during the game with the manual mode, and they´re useless when you pass around the defence. Anyone can make a simple 3/4 metres short pass, don´t you agree? Manual makes sense when you´re attacking and you need that pass that put your stiker in good position and that´s how PES works with manual passing. you just need them to make a risky pass, and no one does risky passing in the defence :) That´s my opinion

PES's passing is a disgrace, especially when you are actually using an analog stick to aim them. It's like going to a 3D movie theater and putting those goggles on and then watching Casablanca.

Not only speed mate. I use them and they´re good to put the ball into space.

... as long as that space happens to be located at a limited amount of places. To be honest I don't understand how anyone could be satisfied with them, unless they somehow feel that they couldn't "handle" the "unpredictability" or control needed to manage fully analog passing. But I suppose 10-year olds on acid (I'm sure there are some out there) who are at the local arcade needs to be able to make sense of it, so... :(

GOD PES sucks sometimes.


OK, I'm done now, sorry. I need one of these every month, and then I'm good.
 
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I'm sorry, do these two screen mean that we can set the untucked shirts from the editing menu?
http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...d=661741&entity_id=-1&image_id=908950&page=13

http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...d=661741&entity_id=-1&image_id=908953&page=13

In the first one you have a "kit style" choice, but I thought that would be about the sleeves. But then in the second screen you can see the sleeves choice, so:
does this mean the "kit style" option is the much-desired, much-needed-for-realism (more than any face, boot, stadium, hairstyle, goal, sock and so on...) UNTUCKED SHIRT?
 
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I apologize for posting in a post below the other because they were issues that arose in hours .

Well I will not occur because this is more sorry because I am novice in international forums, can join my doubts in one post.

Thank you

And please, do an english course before posting here. LOL
Just kidding!!!!
 
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I'm sorry, do these two screen mean that we can set the untucked shirts from the editing menu?
http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...d=661741&entity_id=-1&image_id=908950&page=13

http://www.pcaction.de/?menu=browse...d=661741&entity_id=-1&image_id=908953&page=13

In the first one you have a "kit style" choice, but I thought that would be about the sleeves. But then in the second screen you can see the sleeves choice, so:
does this mean the "kit style" option is the much-desired, much-needed-for-realism (more than any face, boot, stadium, hairstyle, goal, sock and so on...) UNTUCKED SHIRT?

i dont think so
 
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Yes, I know, that's why I'm skeptical...but then, what would "kit style" mean?
 
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me neither..

TG and Adam (WENB) said that untucked shits would appear during the game and will not be in the edit mode

I think there is something you pes fans are not understanding. Untucked shirts are not allowed by FIFA before the match begins, or when a player is about to enter and substitute someone in the game. So... I think it´s real that they untuck the shirt during the game.
 
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Let´s see... slower pace, new keeper animations, new passing and shooting animations, new full manual control, wich allows you to move the off the ball player (that must be awesome), building up/passing a lot to create chances, bigger field, champions league atmosphere, better faces, better stats, better rain...


Now PES 2009 has many improvements :)

from the videos i dont see any of those improvements :SS the only things i agree with there are:

Champions league atmosphere, better faces, better stats,

the rest is bullshit, keepers still look shit, goals still look easy to score without playing good football, a guy on WENB podcast said the speed was pretty much the same, new passing and shooting animation?????? where did you get that? all i see is the exact same animations (especially the awful robotic turning)
 
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I think there is something you pes fans are not understanding. Untucked shirts are not allowed by FIFA before the match begins, or when a player is about to enter and substitute someone in the game. So... I think it´s real that they untuck the shirt during the game.

What the hell are you on about?

Previous PES games have had em and FIFA now has had it for 2-3 years :SS also in real life most players start with untucked shirts
 
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I think there is something you pes fans are not understanding. Untucked shirts are not allowed by FIFA before the match begins, or when a player is about to enter and substitute someone in the game. So... I think it´s real that they untuck the shirt during the game.
i know that...

I am not complaining about that, i'm just saying what thomasGOAL and Adam said..
 
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reddvils did you see 2nd video? last tevez shot? that´s a new shooting animation and it looks good. Did you see croatia vs italy video? you can see a lot of new passing animations there. If you can´t see them it´s because you´re not an "hardcore pes gamer" otherwise you would notice as I and many pes fans notice. Did you see any indvidual run working? Did you see how easily they could dispossess henry and messi? then they started playing with short passes and builind up nicely and they could create chances like that. If you´re not an "hardcore pes gamer" you won´t notice these improvements, but I noticed them!! Otherwise I wouldn´t say that I liked the videos and I wouldn´t talk about new animations. I´ve said many times in this forum that I´m a pes fan boy, but a fair one. I hate PES 2008 and played fifa 08 and euro 2008 this year, That says all about it.

edit: oh and if you can´t see new keeper animations then.. well.. I don´t know what to say because they´re too evident..
 
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what tevez shot? from a argentina match? if for man utd i havent seen, link please

hey i have been playing PES since PES3, i am a huge fan (of FIFA and PES, i buy them both every year) but i just dont see anything drastic....my criticism is only because i am so let down by konami, PES5 was the greatest football game ever made IMO and i just dont understand how they go from that to PES08 on the 360 :SS it suddenly turned arcadey and somehow players started moving like robots and make a fake shot animation every time they turn :LOL: and i have seen nothing in the videos to suggest that it is drastically different from PES08 :( the keepers still look shite

PES5 had better edit mode too.....fair enough you dont add much every year but atleast dont TAKE stuff out :brick:

EDIT to your EDIT: i never said keepers didnt have new animation, i just said they still look shit (easy to beat)
 
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sleeves and sock length, as there is in the image you posted :rolleyes:

Ok, maybe I'm missing something here, and I am quite hopeless about editable untucked shirts because I've heard what you've heard, but still:
to me those appear to be two different options from the same edit page, therefore "kit style" couldn't prompt a sub-choice of sleeves and socks. It even says "default" on the first screen, so it is a selectable item, it does not lead to other choices. What do you mean then with "sleeves and sock length, as there is in the image you posted"? I posted two, and again, to me it looks like the second one is the second page of the same menu.
But again, I'm almost certainly wrong because we heard the thing about untucked shirts.

The other thing about FIFA not allowing untucked shirts as Emanuel says is rubbish, I'm sorry. Plenty of matches I've witnessed with players coming onto the pitch with already untucked shirts. There might be the rule, but if players break it day in day out then it doesn't make sense to wave it as a factor in this discussion.
 
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Ok, maybe I'm missing something here, and I am quite hopeless about editable untucked shirts because I've heard what you've heard, but still:
to me those appear to be two different options from the same edit page, therefore "kit style" couldn't prompt a sub-choice of sleeves and socks. It even says "default" on the first screen, so it is a selectable item, it does not lead to other choices. What do you mean then with "sleeves and sock length, as there is in the image you posted"? I posted two, and again, to me it looks like the second one is the second page of the same menu.
But again, I'm almost certainly wrong because we heard the thing about untucked shirts.

The other thing about FIFA not allowing untucked shirts as Emanuel says is rubbish, I'm sorry. Plenty of matches I've witnessed with players coming onto the pitch with already untucked shirts. There might be the rule, but if players break it day in day out then it doesn't make sense to wave it as a factor in this discussion.
i meant the second image you posted..

that might be the "kit style" menu..

in pes 2008 it was like that

Kit Style (Uniform Dress Style, in pes 2008)/Sleeves, Sock Length
 
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what tevez shot? from a argentina match? if for man utd i havent seen, link please

hey i have been playing PES since PES3, i am a huge fan (of FIFA and PES, i buy them both every year) but i just dont see anything drastic....my criticism is only because i am so let down by konami, PES5 was the greatest football game ever made IMO and i just dont understand how they go from that to PES08 on the 360 :SS it suddenly turned arcadey and somehow players started moving like robots and make a fake shot animation every time they turn :LOL: and i have seen nothing in the videos to suggest that it is drastically different from PES08 :( the keepers still look shite

PES5 had better edit mode too.....fair enough you dont add much every year but atleast dont TAKE stuff out :brick:

EDIT to your EDIT: i never said keepers didnt have new animation, i just said they still look shit (easy to beat)


Well at least I agree with you when you say PES 5 is the best football game ever :) For me it stills the best. Actually I play many times WE9 liveware (slight better PES5 for PC) wich is very good. (it´s a shame no online mode)

I will post those videos, probably you didn´t see them...
 
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In the 2nd video, last tevez move is just great. Also the sooting animation. And another thing you can see. If you look to the radar, the players tactical beahviour is improved. They make diagonal runs and vertical ones instead of only run in horizontal lines. :) See also the defender positioning. All those tweaks seem not enough for non hardcore pes gamers or they can´t even see them (those little but importante tweaks).
 
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yeah looks better then the previous videos

on the 3rd video when it goes to the portugal game........IS THAT A TILTED CAMERA!!!!!! no idea why they took that feature out of PES08 but please tell me its back!!
 
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what you mean with "tilted camera"? Sorry my english is not that good lol But I know you can adjust 3 levels for each camera, I don´t know how to explain, but it´s a new feature. Actually I don´t konw if that´s what you want to know lol
 
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what you mean with "tilted camera"? Sorry my english is not that good lol But I know you can adjust 3 levels for each camera, I don´t know how to explain, but it´s a new feature. Actually I don´t konw if that´s what you want to know lol
i guess he meant that the camera (digital camera) don't stopped moving..

the guy who was recording had that 'parkinson' thing?
heheh
 
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nah, you know while you pick ZOOM(ar whatever) you could tilt the camera using L1 or R1

someone surely know what i am on about
 
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LOL, nobody should apologize for their English.I am Dutch and my English is most probably 100 times better than the Dutch of the native English people.
In fact, the way English commentators pronounce some foreign names is so bad that you can only blame them for being lazy. Example : Cout ( Kuyt )
;)
 
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oh and the way they say Cristiano Ronaldo is very bad aswell lool Kuristiaunou Rounauldou lool eh eh but that´s normal. latin languages are different from english
 
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Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Konami has done it properly, because I think that in Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 They range from an improved on Messi, Agree ?
 
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