Re: PES 2009 News, Discussion and Rumours
You make the same point as someone else, but better written so I'll respond to your post.
Firstly, you contradict yourself, see bold. Someone else said the same but didn't bother with the correct note at the end. It's nonsense that EA had longer with the nextgen console's then Konami. Some of you make it sound like ps3/360-Sony/MS only allowed EA to work on it and then after a couple of years said, "Ok Konami, now it's your turn to try it out". Obviously that's nonsense. Both companies got the console's/development units at the same time, or atleast very close together.
The difference is Konami choose to continue to milk the ps2 versions / us consumers while EA actually put a lot of money into creating a brand new engine. Now whether they have released 5 new engine versions or not isn't much of a point. Konami have still had the same amount of time (months/years) with the consoles to make a new game engine as EA have. The main difference is EA realised they had to invest and restart the game, while Konami thought they could continue with what they had.
EA's investment and FIFA's continued improvement have shown up Konami's gamble to stick to what they had being doing for years with little development, i.e. the cheap option.
So really there is no valid defense of "But EA have made 5 versions" or anything like that to put Konami/PES in a better light. EA have just invested more and now, after 3 "full" versions of FIFA are looking like taking the crown, ... or not.
A valid point could be that EA have had the opportunity to listen to the consumers for 5 versions now whereas Konami have had 3. But that would mean Konami listens in the first place. Another argument that is invalid.
I don't know why people feel such need to defend a company that is earning money by doing little? In the same way we used to critise, and still do, EA for their decisions. Some in here act/post as if they are family/friends of Konami and you take the bad with the good. It's quite delusional to think that you have such a relationship with a profit making company.
Sorry, but I guess I should have put more thought into the post, maybe I should of split it up.
What I meant was that EA have had longer on the next gen systems as they CHOSE to make a game for them straight away, hence why they will have better games, as I'm sure they made the same mistake as Konami did, but the fixed it as soon as they could, and for a nice change took on board a lot of customer feedback, which I very well respect. However I personally, didnt like a Fifa up till Fifa 08 which was better and currently the only next gen footy game I have.
Konami simply havent spent as much time and thought on the next gen systems as they SHOULD have, this isn't an excuse, that was what I meant in the second term, as all in all, they should have concentrated on a next gen version as soon as they were out. But as I previously said, EA still have had longer I believe testing and making games for the next gen systems in total, hence why they are so far ahead, but yet its only Konami's own fault.
But I have more patience, as for me, my first ok football game next gen was fifa 08 and I had to wait long enough for that, being their 5th attempt, im willing to give Konami the same chance, especially if I have Fifa 09 to tie me over (Presuming response time faster, my main gripe) to see if they have something special in a year to come.
I hope that makes sense, sometimes its hard to explain what I mean through text, but I try.
I wasn't meant to defend either game.
I also don't think they use the PS2 engine for the next gen versions as surely it would be as good as the PS2 versions, but clearly is no where near
HOW COME, there is no new news re pes 2009? I mean why they don't release some good quality VIDS to show the game, maybe with day / night and rain effects .. what I would really like to see in pes again! kits getting dirty after a match ! that was in older Pes, i cant I understand why they took it off.
