Next Gen Consoles

What's that got to do with anything? Leave fanboyism aside please.

The real good part about this is that xbone games won't be region-locked anymore :D

Now I'm interested! Drop the price and I'm sold.
 
I'm actually kinda bummed they're dropping some very cool and attractive features now as a knock on effect of these changes.

Being able to swap between games instantly.
No need to use discs at all (avoid disc drive/laser failures etc)
Always online world meaning devs could create games with frequent updates and the lines blurred between single and multi.

Being able to access my games via the cloud across multiple consoles

And the impact this will have on the cloud claims. If devs now know that not everyone will be online and playing then they can't use the cloud.

I had hoped that if I ever bought an Xbox one, these things would have evolved into something amazing. Now it's just going to be another typical console, less spec and more expensive than another.

If the price was the same as ps4 now I'd struggle to decide between them. The above features would have heavily push me to Xbox. Without them. It's like, what difference does it make now then? Just whichever console will run games best I suppose.
 
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Yeah, I definitely agree with you Lami.The videogaming world will change but where Microsoft made the mistake was trying to change things way too quickly.
 
I don't know how it works in Xbox. I assumed it would still use the disc along with the install
 
Radiation said:
I'm actually kinda bummed they're dropping some very cool and attractive features now as a knock on effect of these changes.

Being able to swap between games instantly.
No need to use discs at all (avoid disc drive/laser failures etc)
Always online world meaning devs could create games with frequent updates and the lines blurred between single and multi.

Being able to access my games via the cloud across multiple consoles

And the impact this will have on the cloud claims. If devs now know that not everyone will be online and playing then they can't use the cloud.

I had hoped that if I ever bought an Xbox one, these things would have evolved into something amazing. Now it's just going to be another typical console, less spec and more expensive than another.

If the price was the same as ps4 now I'd struggle to decide between them. The above features would have heavily push me to Xbox. Without them. It's like, what difference does it make now then? Just whichever console will run games best I suppose.
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I hear you fella. Gutted about the family sharing being a no go now. Hopefully something can be done to re-introduce it as that was an amazing feature.
 
Sounds like MS have thrown the baby out with the bathwater on this one. Some decent features gone, other things which could have been optional - gone.

I'm noticing a mixed reaction about this. I think they've done the right thing but for the wrong reasons. Get rid of the camera and make the console £100 cheaper - that will be a good move.
 
embraceuk1 said:
Loving the new Xbox name now called XBOX 1 80 lol genius
Sorry Thomas but if this news is true canceling PS4 purchase immediately.
Even the PS3 boys at IGN admit the games lineup is way better on Xbox
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No need to be sorry lol, if you prefer Xbone lineup it's normal, i don't understand why you preorder PS4...
For me only Quantum Break look nice on xbone exclusivity.

Still PS4 for me, because of the powerfull 1,8Tflops vs 1,1 on Xbox One, it's huge different for multi games. And when i see Naughty Dogs or Quantic Dream who continue to do amazing works and the end of PS3 life and on the xbox 360 side you have nothing new during the last years...

But I probably buy the PS4 in 2014, not day one, no games for me at launch.
 
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I don't think there will be much graphical difference between the multi-platform games. They will be designed to work on the least powerful console. I can't see many devs going to the time and expense of optimising games for the PS4.
 
Jamezinho said:
I don't think there will be much graphical difference between the multi-platform games. They will be designed to work on the least powerful console. I can't see many devs going to the time and expense of optimising games for the PS4.
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"In talking to a developer who wished to remain anonymous, gamers will see a difference on Day One when they compare third party PS4 games to Xbox One head-to-head. The developer told me the PS4 is 40 percent more powerful than Xbox One and games like Call of Duty Ghosts will be noticeably different out of the gate."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngau...-4-launch-edition-already-sold-out-at-amazon/
 
I think Sony first party games will perform better but most games will still end up looking and acting the same despite the technological differences. Lowest common denominator...
 
This man speaks the truth:

YouTube - My Honest Opinion on the Xbox One's Policy Shift

From all the opinions I've seen on this, definitely the best.


Also, about the games. Even if Xbox 180 ends up having the best launch lineup of games, who do you think will have the best lineup in 2 years time?

We haven't even seen what some of Sonys majors studios are up to. Nothing MS can do will equal what Naughty Dog does for instance...
 
Most of these companies can't even be arsed to optimise for the platform the game was created on - the PC. That's my thinking here.

You're probably right, there may be some differences such as frame-rate but in general I don't think there will be much between the same title running on a PS4 and XB1.

I think the choice of which console to buy is now much more focused on the game line-ups since this u-turn from MS, which is a good thing.
 
Yeah I agree but I do still think the PS4 is ahead due to pricing and in general being the more powerful console.

XB180 has kind of lost whatever uniqueness it tried to create in the first place, Sony's competency prevails still IMO
 
Yep, if I was looking to buy one of these it would be the PS4 all day long. MS have shown what they think of their customers which was enough to put me off, and also made Kinect (not interested) an integral part of their machine and charged a premium for the console because of it.

I'm old fashioned and just want a simple machine that plays games. Perhaps I'll look at a PS4 after 2-3 years when prices drop and a possible mid-cycle slim version appears.
 
The loses to the Xbox like the cloud library of games that you can access elsewhere has made it much less attractive to me now. It made it unique and added a sense of excitement to how games will be made in a year or two with those features around.
On launch I intended to go ps4, but I definitely was interested in the Xbox maybe a year or two down the line. Now though... I don't know.

Will developers actually use the cloud and make games with online built in knowing now that people might not even go online. Or will we just see games that just do not work unless you are online? You've got games like need for speed and forza and the division being built around this idea of no split between single and multiplayer... A seamless switch back and forth between the two. Pushing the old notion of how online works, picking multiplayer, joining a lobby, finding your friends, buddying up, picking a match, loading.
And instead it could have become something where you just boot up the game, and as you move around the multiplayer elements just feed in bit by bit.

We could have had games where you don't stop and wait for the next map and you don't need to wait for your buddies to join you. Because the games were made knowing that everyone was online, everyone had access to the cloud and maybe instead of you being in 1 map and your friends in another. It would just automatically merge you into each others games.

Now it just seems like we're lost. They're both being so vague about things, Sony with gaikai and lmicrosoft with just about everything. A loooooong time still to go I guess before release. I feel like cartman in that wii episode of south park.
 
Jamezinho said:
I don't think there will be much graphical difference between the multi-platform games. They will be designed to work on the least powerful console. I can't see many devs going to the time and expense of optimising games for the PS4.
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True. This time round I just hope that multi-platform games can either be equal or PS4 be marginally better, much in the same way 360 seems to often win out against PS3 (in very minor ways).

Proof of both console's abilities will lie with in-house and exclusive games. I'm very excited to see what Naughty Dog can pull out of this thing.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
True. This time round I just hope that multi-platform games can either be equal or PS4 be marginally better, much in the same way 360 seems to often win out against PS3 (in very minor ways).

Proof of both console's abilities will lie with in-house and exclusive games. I'm very excited to see what Naughty Dog can pull out of this thing.
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It's really different, PS3 is a little beat more powerfull (but less memory) than the Xbox 360, but the PS3 have a very different architecture and tools and very hard for programmers, but this time the PS4 have the same architecture than the Xbox One, but much powerfull and tools are very simple, more simple than Xbox One because of eSRAM.
 
Jamezinho said:
I don't think there will be much graphical difference between the multi-platform games. They will be designed to work on the least powerful console. I can't see many devs going to the time and expense of optimising games for the PS4.
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Exactly what I was going to say. Also depends on where the majority of gamers are on what system.
You can still fast swap between media too. Games will also still be fully available to buy day of release as digital versions.
Yeah the family and friends share was a great idea I hope they bring back.
Glad I didn't have to give up my preferred controller the new one is supposed to be even better.
 
ThomasGOAL said:
It's really different, PS3 is a little beat more powerfull (but less memory) than the Xbox 360, but the PS3 have a very different architecture and tools and very hard for programmers, but this time the PS4 have the same architecture than the Xbox One, but much powerfull and tools are very simple, more simple than Xbox One because of eSRAM.
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So the order will probably go - Develop on pc, port to ps4 easily, cram down to Xbox.
 
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