Next Gen Consoles

So you buy a game, its yours as normal (ish)

If you lend that disc to a friend and he install. Does he have to buy a license? I'm thinking yes because it goes on to say;
You can 'gift' a game to a friend. So you give him the disc and your license? But then he can't ever trade it in or hand it back or to another friend?
 
In light of the privacy concerns with the xbone, I find it interesting that Microsoft was the first company to throw its hand up and give the U.S. government permission to collect email data from it's customers under the PRISM program.
 
I thought that was an amusing segment; " we respect your privacy so will allow kinect to be turned off". Uh...ok.

@rad,

From reading the text it's out of MS' hands and they will let publishers decide, so it could differ per game.
 
TikTikTikTikTik said:
I thought that was an amusing segment; " we respect your privacy so will allow kinect to be turned off". Uh...ok.

@rad,

From reading the text it's out of MS' hands and they will let publishers decide, so it could differ per game.
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Yea but they built/allowed that system didn't they? They shouldn't do that. That's ludicrous.

And from reading that bs all I took from it was a condescending "tone" to it. And what on earth is this crap:

your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you
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:CENSOR:

Fish move out of the way :FISH: That's next gen baby!

Ok seriously, after reading that bs again I just can't get myself to believe any of that is actually real. It's like a really bad april's fools.
 
airjoca said:
I can still blow on a SNES cartridge, plug it in and play it, or show it to my future children.

Those days will be gone with these new systems.
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Yeah, I've got a box full of Amiga games and another box with loads of PS1/PS2 games stored away in my loft. Some real classics in there.

This will be a thing of the past.
 
About the kinect, they said even if it's turned off, it can still record the audio ??? Did I get it right or wrong ?
 
This was written with those articles in mind by a guy I know who works for Microsoft:

As for that article, some of the points are blatant scaremongering:

- You don't own the games you buy, only the license to play them

You've never 'owned' a game. Just like music you never owe the material, that belongs to the authors/publishers. You are licensed to play it, always have been.

- Publishers decide whether games can be traded in or not and even then, it will only be possible with "participating retailers"

Where has that been announced? Nothing I have read states publishers will specifically block trading. Charging a fee is not blocking.

- You have to connect online every 24 hours - fail to do so and you can't play your games at all

Again, this is misleading. It makes it sound like if the console is off for 3 days it will melt into a useless pile of plastic. Nonsense.

- You can sell games to those on your Friends List but only if you've been friends with them for 30 days

Again, wrong. The official statement reads :-

Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
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You've never 'owned' a game. Just like music you never owe the material, that belongs to the authors/publishers. You are licensed to play it, always have been.
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The difference is, when I buy a music CD I own the media and hence can do what I like with it. The record label cannot shut down my CD so I can't play it in future.
 
- You have to connect online every 24 hours - fail to do so and you can't play your games at all

Again, this is misleading. It makes it sound like if the console is off for 3 days it will melt into a useless pile of plastic. Nonsense.
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How is it misleading then ? The console (gaming) aspect will be rendered useless so no it's not misleading at all.The TV and bullshit doesn't interest me that much
 
Sounds legit, you can feel the anger in the replies. It just needed a few insults thrown in and another #dealwithit
 
Not unless the places pay Microsoft for permission to do so.

I can imagine all sorts of exclusive deals going on now. Like Game will do something like be the only place you can trade halo in or some other big name games to stop you going to other shops and forcing Game to price match it.
 
I'm sure I read that Sony's stance is they're not enforcing any blocks on games, but the publishers are pushing hard for it so the compromise is Sony are saying its up to them if they want to use codes on used games etc or not.

Pretty much the same as Microsoft are saying now.
 
Radiation said:
I'm sure I read that Sony's stance is they're not enforcing any blocks on games, but the publishers are pushing hard for it so the compromise is Sony are saying its up to them if they want to use codes on used games etc or not.

Pretty much the same as Microsoft are saying now.
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Well, what about games produced and published by Sony and Microsoft Studios? What will be the excuse they will give for restriction on their games?
 
On the other side, the fact that the x360 was pirated early on and the PS3 wasn't helped Microsoft take the lead in console sales this generation.
 
SteelHorse75 said:
When do they reveal the ps4???
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gomito#10 said:
Blame the fuckchops who steal games and put them up on BitTorrent...
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I think the bigger issue has been places like game or gamestop actively promoting 2nd hand sales over new games so they can get the majority of the sale and bypass publishers and developers. They are essentially doing the same thing but on a far bigger commercial scale.

There's an article on eurogamer that is arguing that even with the latest scientific studies they cant prove that piracy is actively harming the industry and actually show that harsh penalties or restrictions being placed on consoles is more harmfull as they effect a larger group of consumers who will be less inclined to buy products.

Btw, I'm not defending piracy, but it isnt black or white as you suggets. I've only got original games for both xbox and ps3, and am for developrs getting money from 2nd hand sales, but the stricter the controls the less likely I'll be to buy them. If, for whatever reason, i lose my internet for a couple of days i dont want my console, which i only use for single player offline gaming to be crippled. If anything these restrictions will only push me to look for other alternatives.
 
Radiation said:
So you buy a game, its yours as normal (ish)

If you lend that disc to a friend and he install. Does he have to buy a license? I'm thinking yes because it goes on to say;
You can 'gift' a game to a friend. So you give him the disc and your license? But then he can't ever trade it in or hand it back or to another friend?
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Yup. No more selling games or giving it to your mate for free .
 
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