NBA Thread

airjoca said:
In both those guys opinions, Jordan was the best.

And Michael had to face that pistons team but also Magic, Drexler, Barkley, Ewing, Shaq and Penny, Payton and Kemp, Stockton and Malone, Reggie Miller and many others. The list of great players that were denied championships because of Michael is impressive...
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Some if the guys you mentioned we're way past there prime when playing mj. Payton and kemp? Not at the same level. The same players Jordan denied were denied by bird and magic too. I think it's a tough call, really I do.. It's pretty PC to say Jordan was best ever...
 
airjoca said:
In both those guys opinions, Jordan was the best.

And Michael had to face that pistons team but also Magic, Drexler, Barkley, Ewing, Shaq and Penny, Payton and Kemp, Stockton and Malone, Reggie Miller and many others. The list of great players that were denied championships because of Michael is impressive...
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because of jordan, pippen and rodman to be more precised. if jordan hadn't retired 2, i'd say he would have won 8-10 rings.
 
gomito#10 said:
Bird and magic were better cause they had to face each other , Jordan had Isaiah and bill lambeer
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I understand why people like comparisons, I really do, but by my standards they are never fair/accurate, unless they are really alike, which is never the case.

Not even twins on the same team play alike, I remember the Morris brothers in college, even their numbers were similar, yet one game you saw them you could see the differences were there.

Each player is better in singular aspect, its like this for basketball, football and all complex sports, that's why I love them.

Its not 100m sprint where the faster man wins, which by the way still had major advances with time, making it a bit of a complex sport as well.

I didn't saw Bird and Magic that much to have a valid opinion, but Michael Jordan was amazing and so were the guys airjoca mentioned, to be honest it seems you have something personal against MJ, since you are always on 'his' posts.
If I'm not mistaken you are also the guy that says Pelé didn't do shit outside brazil and he is not the greatest ever, I mean common man sometimes it seems you do these posts for fun.
 
sauce said:
I understand why people like comparisons, I really do, but by my standards they are never fair/accurate, unless they are really alike, which is never the case.

Not even twins on the same team play alike, I remember the Morris brothers in college, even their numbers were similar, yet one game you saw them you could see the differences were there.

Each player is better in singular aspect, its like this for basketball, football and all complex sports, that's why I love them.

Its not 100m sprint where the faster man wins, which by the way still had major advances with time, making it a bit of a complex sport as well.

I didn't saw Bird and Magic that much to have a valid opinion, but Michael Jordan was amazing and so were the guys airjoca mentioned, to be honest it seems you have something personal against MJ, since you are always on 'his' posts.
If I'm not mistaken you are also the guy that says Pelé didn't do shit outside brazil and he is not the greatest ever, I mean common man sometimes it seems you do these posts for fun.
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Huh don't think I ever said that about pele bro.... I think I have a different perspective as I grew up with Larry and Magic and Jordan.
No doubt MJ is amazing. But the magic vs bird rivalry was something else man. I think those three are the greatest of all time, then everyone else.
 
Ha, I'm sorry then, its just that on every Pelé post there's this guy too, I don't remember his username right now.

Now back on MJ, Bird and Magic, adding every aspect of their games, career achievements those three are without a doubt different.

But I'm kinda of with Lebron on that, I don't care about titles, if the guy have them then its a plus, but I care more about skills and play over consistent seasons.
 
Great article on MJ:

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building

And I loved this bit:

"I study him," he says.

When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."

For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"
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Also:

"Our era," he says over and over again, calling modern players soft, coddled and ill-prepared for the highest level of the game. This is personal to him, since he'll be compared to this generation, and since he has to build a franchise with this generation's players.

"I'll give you a hint," he says. "I can only come up with four."

He lists them: LeBron, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki.
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That's just Jordan's opinion though. I disagree as I was around for Jordan's era and I would say that there are several players today who could have been just as good back then.
 
I have. The players on my list have a high enough basketball IQ and athletic talent to play in any era. MJ is not the expert on all things basketball. Not saying I am. A lot of ppl agree with MJ when he speaks because he's arguably the GOAT. I just have a different opinion.
 
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I have. The players on my list have a high enough basketball IQ and athletic talent to play in any era. MJ is not the expert on all things basketball. Not saying I am. A lot of ppl agree with MJ when he speaks because he's arguably the GOAT. I just have a different opinion.
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i hear you, i think mj's point was that the game was much more physical cause of the hand checking zone defense and the like. The flopping that goes on now days would not be tolerated either. Players who dont get to the free throw line would not be nearly as efective..
 
100% agree with you in regards to the physical aspect. They interviewed Barkley during the ASG and showed clips of all the shoving matches and brawls during his era. I miss that part of game.
 
Curry 11-13 from 3 point :CONFUSE:

His last two games 92 points, 20-35 FG, 18-23 3PT, 10-11 FT

Let's hope he keep this up, cause we gonna need it, I can see us dropping to 7-8 seed if not out of the playoffs, which would be devastating.
 
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old rules and forwards like ewing, robinson, malone, hakeem, shaq etc would simply kill all these fancy pgs. if chandler is a dominant centre then the NBA has gone soft.
 
sauce said:
Curry 11-13 from 3 point :CONFUSE:

His last two games 92 points, 20-35 FG, 18-23 3PT, 10-11 FT

Let's hope he keep this up, cause we gonna need it, I can see us dropping to 7-8 seed if not out of the playoffs, which would be devastating.
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best ever 10+ 3pt performance in a game after ty lawson's 10 of 11 in 2009. :WORSHIP:
 
Curry is on fire indeed!

That rookie Waiters from Cleveland has put on a show the last couple games as well.
 
Issidingo said:
old rules and forwards like ewing, robinson, malone, hakeem, shaq etc would simply kill all these fancy pgs. if chandler is a dominant centre then the NBA has gone soft.
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This makes absolutely no sense. Why in the world would one of todays current point guards (Westbrook, Rose, Irving etc) be guarding an elite power forward or center like Ewing, Malone, or Shaq?
 
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This makes absolutely no sense. Why in the world would one of todays current point guards (Westbrook, Rose, Irving etc) be guarding an elite power forward or center like Ewing, Malone, or Shaq?
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not guarding, but drive in the paint and dunk like they costantly do freely these days.
 
The NBA changed its rules so the big men can't have as much advantage, they want to go with the guards, quick play, flashy dunks, etc...and because of these changes, the NBA has gone a lot softer....lots of "fouls" now wouldn't have been called back then
 
Watching OKC @ Denver, the Nuggets assault on the paint is ridiculous, if only they had a spot up shooter.
 
tobi said:
Watching OKC @ Denver, the Nuggets assault on the paint is ridiculous, if only they had a spot up shooter.
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that would be gallinari but he has been given some rest in the last few games.

they are by far the most fun team to watch. title contenders in the next future.
 
Danilo is more than a spot up shooter though, they need someone like Steve Novak - a specialist.
 
just watched knicks miami. i really don't see how the knicks can be considered a title contender. they pretty much lose every important game.

james gotta be the best athlete on earth. it's amusing how he is everywhere.
 
The season has gone by fast guys. Only two weeks left and then the playoffs start. 3 playoff spots left I think.
 
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The season has gone by fast guys. Only two weeks left and then the playoffs start. 3 playoff spots left I think.
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Lakers spurs would make a wonderful first round. Tonite the lakers play ock, any loss matter from now on.

I think Miami is gonna win another title. probably the spurs are the only team who can beat them in a 7 game series. i think the thunders need some more time to be a fully mature title contender. same goes for the nuggets and clippers.
 
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