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Yet another great Strike-Force card, well impressed. I wrote about the Fedor fight on an MMA forum I frequent - I'll post my thoughts as I cant be bothered writing it out again.

I dont like to hear any fighter talking about retirement, especially before a big fight. As I mentioned in a previous post, their mind and heart is already in the wrong place. And watching Fedor last night (delayed coverage), it was blatantly obvious. In hindsight, I truly believe the Werdum loss was the beginning of the end of a true legend. After the Werdum fight, I was astonished that Fedor was so lax in the guard. He had a couple of opportunities to get out, but he didnt. The notoriously cool, composed and calculating Fedor would not have put himself at that type of risk against a very naughty Jits practitioner. Of course, everybody can get caught, but Fedor isnt everybody. His domination of the sport was based on his skill, technique, heart and most importantly - a very clever fighting brain. I truly believe that when words like retirement are thrown into the mix, the first part of the arsenal to suffer is the mind. And thats the top and bottom of it for me.

The fight against Silva not only confirmed that in my eyes, it brutally rubberstamped it. Right from the offset Fedor didnt look like the fighter we all know. His usual composed and calculated demeanour had been replaced by a reckless abandon. He threw his punches in bunches, but there was nothing clinical or poised about his assaults. He looked messy, there was very little thought in what he was doing. He never set up the right hand, there were no feints, he just winged it in hope. Thats not Fedor, or certainly not the technically cute Fedor we know. To me it looked like he didnt want to be there, he wanted to end it as soon as he could, but there was no thought involved. It reeked of a fighter who had fallen out of love with the sport, it really did.

I'm not sure what hurt the most, seeing AA's eggs get scrambled so easily yet again, or the end of the Fedor era. I think it has to be the latter.
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It looked like a 'mercy' stoppage to me, and I dont think there can be too many complaints in that regard. Even with the ice-cold demeanour and trademark poker-face Fedor exudes, I think if you look close enough, his body-langauge said as much. He looked very unsteady on his feet as he got up at the end of the second round. The heart to not only try to scramble out of the mount on numerous occasions, but also not to tap with what looked like a very tight arm-triangle was a credit to the great mans legacy. There was no quit in him, but sometimes that decision needs to be made for a fighter, and I for one thought it was a great call. As much as I would have loved to see Fedor roll back the years and pull off another victory from the jaws of defeat in a 3rd round, I dont believe he had it in him, mentally or physically. The shot at the end of the fight with Fedor slumped on his stool, battered and bruised reminded me of the infamous 'gumshield shot' of Tyson against Douglas. Shockingly brutal and bordering surreal.

I think those who question his last two defeats need to put it into perspective. I honestly believe Fedor's love and passion had long since passed, and with it, his steely focus. And both performances justify that belief for me personally. I dont think that it's a decline or deterioration in his skill-set, or that MMA has evolved to the point it's passed him by. I just dont feel he has the love or passion anymore, and it's become all about the money. As they say, 10% physical, 90% mental. The strange irony is that after 28 fights and 9 years unbeaten, these back-to-back losses may give him the solace he seeks.

Whatever happens, he can still retire with a legacy that may never be surpassed. And I for one hope does. He has nothing to prove anymore, or at least, he doesnt in my eyes.
 
UFC 127

Pretty shit event overall. I think Bisping is a bit of a prick too, and a pretty dull fighter.
 
He just acted like a complete twat at the end of the fight.

I thought it was a decent event, another UFC event tonight too as well as Strikeforce and Bellator (which I've not seen before) in the next few days.
 
Bisping is a prick however it is probably just so people talk about him (same as tito used to do) as the lack of skill is not going to get him talked about much. he is a good fighter but far from great and his attitude lacks respect.

Think back to the Matt Hamill fight...
 
Jimmy i'm still after that Pettis video you talked about

Do you know anywhere else that has that and the WEC KO's ect or anyone that can give me a invite? :)
 
Jimmy i'm still after that Pettis video you talked about

Do you know anywhere else that has that and the WEC KO's ect or anyone that can give me a invite? :)

Do you think you can use my log-in to download it ? If so, I'll check what it is tonight and PM my details.

The Pettis Career is quite simply phenomenal. Even his early fights are brilliant. In one fight, I think it's his 3rd in a local-hall show, he gets slammed to the mat and dislocates his shoulder. He then stands up, shoulder popped, and you think 'oh dear'. He then .........

Wait and see........ ;)

The site also has all the WEC Greatest KO and Sub DVD's. There are a few of each in the WEC, Special or Career Pack section. I have them all. :)
 
Last nights UFC was worth watching, a good main event too.

Can not bloody wait to see Rua v Jones though!
 
Zuffa Purchases Strikeforce

In a transaction that will forever change the mixed martial arts world, Zuffa, the parent company of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, has purchased its top competitor, Strikeforce.

UFC President Dana White announced today in an interview with MMA Fighting that UFC's parent company, Zuffa, has bought out Strikeforce. No details on the terms of the buyout are known, but White said it was a "good deal."

White added that Strikeforce fighters will remain under the Strikeforce roster for the time being, while UFC fighters may eventually make their way over there.

"Strikeforce is going to continue to run business as usual," White said. "There's contracts in place. These guys are on Showtime. Strikeforce pulls good ratings for Showtime. I think Showtime is happy with them. All those contracts will be honored. These guys are going to remain Strikeforce fighters. Could guys from the UFC leave and end up over in Strikeforce? Yeah."

Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker will be staying on, just as WEC executive Reed Harris did after UFC bought WEC in 2006.

White also ruled out the possibility of cross-promotion "superfights," saying fighter contracts, broadcast deals, and business partnerships will remain unaffected.

The main reason for the buyout on the Zuffa side appears to be the need to acquire more talent as they continue to expand globally, even though White insists Strikeforce will run as its own business.

"That's a separate business that has their own income," White said. "They have their own budgets and everything else that they do. They have they're own television deals. If they're that interested in acquiring (a fighter), it's no different than it was before."

A video interview featuring Ariel Helwani and UFC President Dana White can be seen below.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/12/zuffa-purchases-strikeforce/
 
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So many fighter are gonna be screwing about this

Daley and Henderson especially

They aint merging so its gonna be pretty much the same, but i can see loads of people leaving SF when there contract expires though
 
Saw this from Twitter:

Can't beat @ShaneCarwin for the heavyweight title on UFC Undisputed 2010. This is getting really really annoying.

from carwin - @JonnySaville Just take the fight into the 2nd round

:LOL:
 
So many fighter are gonna be screwing about this

Daley and Henderson especially

They aint merging so its gonna be pretty much the same, but i can see loads of people leaving SF when there contract expires though

Hendo will be fine, he's on a KO tear at the moment and Dana isnt stupid. Dan didnt play silly buggers either after he left, that was Dana being Dana. Daley wont get another chance though. And unless Barnett does well in the HW Tournament, he may not either as him and DW have been verbal sparring for years since he left the UFC. Fedor is another that they may be issues with due to M1. Dana is also a fan of both Nick Diaz and Gilbert Melendez, so both of them should have a warm welcome, although Dana will read Diaz the riot act first.
 
few days old but thought it was worth sharing

Posting via the Underground Forum, Daley said:

“Business as usual, what if i dont wanna fight for DANA WHITE/ZUFFA?……Dana white bans me for life from the UFC, Then buys STRIKEFORCE, and thinks im still gonna be EASY and fight on one of the most anticipated fights of the year (vs Diaz)? Which will no doubt make ZUFFA/Dana White money.”

“Daley vs Diaz still on?…..Someone better holla at my manager real quick.”

“Not sure what im gonna do right now, honestly…fight for the Strikeforce and be Strikeforce champ, put money in ZUFFA/Dana Whites pockets? Or fight here in the UK for BAMMA, who appreciate my brand, and have my loyal fans, family and media support me. For real.”

as much as i like this guy as a fighter, he makes it really hard to respect him as a person. he's only hurting his future revenue making comments like this
 
Sounds like he's masking excuses in case Dana doesn't want him at Strikeforce and then he can claim he wanted to return to the UK anyway.

Because UK MMA pays just as much as Strikeforce and UFC do.
 
Sounds like he's masking excuses in case Dana doesn't want him at Strikeforce and then he can claim he wanted to return to the UK anyway.

Because UK MMA pays just as much as Strikeforce and UFC do.

agreed, wonder what goes through the kids head. it's proper playground nonsense, it's like thinking a girlfriend might split up with you and you deciding to get in there and end it first before you lose face.

if he had shown an ounce of remorse at anytime after the event then i'm sure dana would backtrack and give him a second chance.
 
Daley needs to take a leaf out of Josh Barnetts book, he has done a complete U-Turn, his tongue is now deep inside Dana's ass. He's not totally stupid, he appreciates that DW now owns all the cards.

As for Shogun v Bones tonight........I cant fucking wait. :WOOT:

I'm a huge Faber fan, and although Wineland is there to showcase Faber's wrestling, he can still strike with the best of them. I'm hoping Mirko can roll back the years against Brendan, but I see Miller knowing waayy too much for Shalarous. I see Nate beating Dan Miller without too many issues either.

As for Jon Jones and his chances, I think he takes this, I really do.

I posted this in an MMA forum, I'll copy and paste it to save me writing it again...

This is how I see it. It's very easy to get caught up in fighter-hype, I've been around the fight scene for a good 20 years or more, and been priviliged to cover many world title fights as a boxing journalist. Over the years I've seen promising fighters fail to hit their initial potential, alternatively, every once in a while you witness first hand, special fighters.

For me Jon Jones has that air and subsequent aura of something a little bit special. I'm sure we all watched Aldo come through the WEC and thought, 'Hey you know what, this kid looks a little bit naughty'. He then steamrolls through gate-keepers with such ease it levels the term contest, redundant. The final acid-test, the true marker of his perceived standing, is then brutally enforced with his effortless dominance of Brown and Faber - and a legend is born.

I see the very same early signs here in Jon Jones. For me, this is a guy who reeks 'natural'. He has all the tools, both physically and mentally. He is extremely athletic, with the type of frame perfectly suited to the sport. He is calmness personified in the heat of the battle, with such a degree of focus it almost belies his years. Calculating, composed and very intelligent with a desire that opitimises the tools in his locker. When you look at the recipe for the perfect fighter, Bones has all the relevant ingredients in my book.

Jones and Bader was the fight that interested me the most on that card, as it was the opportunity to add another tick next to the Bones checklist. And what a tick by the way. The accusations that Bader was found out will be negated in time. Bader is an excellent fighter in my eyes, and very good at what he does well, but he was up against a fighter who just may be in a class all by himself. The way Jones handled Bader rubberstamped his potential ten-fold for me personally. And he did it without even breaking a sweat. That for me, as well as his previous performances suggests we have a very special fighter in our midst, and one that is learning quicker, and getting better with every fight. The biggest tick off the checklist that we are all yet to see, is how Jones copes when he has been hurt, but we need to see him troubled before thats crossed off, and it aint his fault that hasnt happened yet.

The Las Vegas bookies very rarely get it wrong, they have Bones the favourite, and I'm all over that like a cheap suit.

Jones by GNP Round 3. :)
 
Well said. Took the words out of my mouth about Jones.

I like him a lot. He's very impressive.

ShoGun is TOP though and another one of my favourites. But regardless of what happens tonight, Jon Jones will get the #1 spot sooner or later... it's just a matter of time because he's special.
 
wow, seems like Jones could end the fight any moment, he's totally dominating and the other guy is clearly touched
 
Wow

People thought it was all hype and that he was being pushed for ratings then he destroys the best in the LHW division

We have all witnessed something special in Bone's Jone's and the scary thing is he's not even started yet. Only 3 years training and he's already the Champion and setting MMA alight
 
I thought the actual event was a bit ... meh. Decent enough. But the main event was eye-opening. I was looking forward to the fight anyway and it didn't disappoint at all.

As you say, we've witnessed something special there. The lad has scary potential and you wonder when the next Jones is going to come along to challenge him. Because Rashad isn't going to come close to beating him IMO.

I saw people mention Machida being a good fight and I have to admit it sounds interesting.

Bones v Anderson Silva :OH:
 
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