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What was going on with the formation tonight? Smith on the right wing, Fletcher somewhere, couldn't work out where the hell he was playing. Scholes kind of central. How bizarre.

How tall is O'Shea? Why the hell is he useless in the air? And Ronaldo is crap this season. Simply put, if anyone else had been in for him (giggs, park, richardson with a differnet LB) I would have been pleased. He was absolutely a waste of space. I don't know what happened to him, but until his playing starts actually helping the team, I don't get why we keep playing him.

On a side note, it was a great game of football. The likes of which you wouldn't get against say, erm, Chelski. Fine we dropped points because we kept playing to score, not protecting the lead. But its supposed to be about entertainment isn't it?
 
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Atleast Smith works better on the right than as a DM. I was happy about that. It makes better use of his skills.

You all are right about Ronaldo but he's only gonna get back to his best by playing games which is probably what Sir Alex had in mind.

Something thats really annoying me about Rooney is that he has far too many near misses. I mean, he has bags of talent and always looks to score the spectacular goal but it seems like he's not quite as good as he's pushing himself to be.
 
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Alucard said:
Ah just saw the match and very pissed. That referee i dont know what his name is but he is a complete dick. He must be one of the worst in the premiership, everytime i see him in games he makes mistakes, it was blatant foul on ronaldo.

Man you have to wonder why park wasnt playing after he provided such a good display in his last few matches. Fletcher on the right doesnt work its him in the centre or not play atall. Oshea.... well we need to get rid of this lanky clown he cant defend for his girlfriend. And for crying out loud richardson is not a leftback what happened to silvestre?
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definately a foul, but your lucks out when u cant buy the refs like Roman can. Richardson seems to me like hes pretty nicely adapted to the left-back role. We should sell O'Shea because hes just a bag of crap. And DON'T mention Silvestre hes worse than both of them, hes just a clumsy useless Frenchman. Title race is definately all over. Liverpool won't catch them either. It'll be the same story next year....and the year after.....and the year after that...
 
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matherto said:
definately a foul, but your lucks out when u cant buy the refs like Roman can. Richardson seems to me like hes pretty nicely adapted to the left-back role. We should sell O'Shea because hes just a bag of crap. And DON'T mention Silvestre hes worse than both of them, hes just a clumsy useless Frenchman. Title race is definately all over. Liverpool won't catch them either. It'll be the same story next year....and the year after.....and the year after that...
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Things will change once we get a new manager. We need to make changes. And I mean big changes. And theres no better way than to change the manager.
 
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No new manager will catch chelsea if they keep winning non stop.

All we need really are some proper players. And yes silvestre is clumsy but he is a good bet when he plays on the left and brown in the centre.

Oh and we need sorting out the defense, last night goals that we let in were a joke and could of been avoided i.e some good defending.
 
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I don't think Fergie is the problem. It's stupid fucks like Silvestre and Rio who concede the silliest goals at the worst of times. Our attacking play is amazing imo, and Fergie is doing a great job.
 
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RuneEdge said:
Things will change once we get a new manager. We need to make changes. And I mean big changes. And theres no better way than to change the manager.
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This must be the first sensible words from you on this forum...i've been saying this for years...Man Utd should have got rid of him the year after the treble...
His record (i n Europe) is extremely poor for the richest club in the world..one thing is sure if they had got rid of him in 2000 then i still would be a fan of United...glad that people are beginning to see the light six years after me...

Oh and for god's sake stop moaning about Roman's money...United is the richest club of the world for ages...the fact that football is all about money is due to clubs like Man Utd and Arsenal...by moaning now you guys just show that you are bad losers....

a former big fan who has predicted this for years ...i know, i will not be the most popular guy in this thread...but i don't really care.
 
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Stan said:
This must be the first sensible words from you on this forum...i've been saying this for years...Man Utd should have got rid of him the year after the treble...
His record (i n Europe) is extremely poor for the richest club in the world..one thing is sure if they had got rid of him in 2000 then i still would be a fan of United...glad that people are beginning to see the light six years after me...
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This isnt the first time I've said this. :roll:


Stan said:
Oh and for god's sake stop moaning about Roman's money...United is the richest club of the world for ages...the fact that football is all about money is due to clubs like Man Utd and Arsenal...by moaning now you guys just show that you are bad losers....
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Dont compare Chelsea's fortunes with other clubs cuz its not the same.

Stan said:
a former big fan who has predicted this for years ...i know, i will not be the most popular guy in this thread...but i don't really care.
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I think it got pretty obvious when we started using 4-5-1 and 4-3-3. Sir Alex himself said that other teams have figured him out and now he's stuggling to find a new strategy that will make better use of the players he has.
Which is why I've been saying for quite some time that we need a new manager just for the sake of taking our team in a different direction. I dont care if the new manager is the shittest coach in the world cuz we have enough quality in the team to maintain a top 4 place in the league and keep some respect for the club. Which means we dont have much to lose for trying out a new manager.
We could be here for years spending endless amounts of money to hide Sir Alex's faults, when instead it would be much cheaper to try out a new manager for a year AND suffer the consequences of it being a bad idea.
 
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right on the money about chelseas fortunes, not even comparable to Man U, chelsea is a hobby to roman
 
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lol, you didn't said anything new there Stan. :)

Anyways, no disrespect intended, but some of the people that post in this forum and are ManUtd fans are extremely inconsistent. If ManUtd wins you already start saying the title race is on blah blah blah... If ya lose you say the usual that it's over, want fergie's head blah blah.. ;)
But ah, I have to agree with fergie's head, he has jsut been making too many mistakes in the last 3 years...

Ronaldo should be taken off the team for a month. Maybe he will comeback then in full force.
 
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Stan said:
This must be the first sensible words from you on this forum...i've been saying this for years...Man Utd should have got rid of him the year after the treble...
His record (i n Europe) is extremely poor for the richest club in the world..one thing is sure if they had got rid of him in 2000 then i still would be a fan of United...glad that people are beginning to see the light six years after me...

Oh and for god's sake stop moaning about Roman's money...United is the richest club of the world for ages...the fact that football is all about money is due to clubs like Man Utd and Arsenal...by moaning now you guys just show that you are bad losers....

a former big fan who has predicted this for years ...i know, i will not be the most popular guy in this thread...but i don't really care.
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LMAO this is rich coming from a former supporter! You come on here like you know it all high and mighty when you the one you gave up your team just because United didnt follow up on the treble. Noone is complaining about romans money boy, all i said was no manager will help if chelsea keep winning games like they are now. Any other season and we would be top of the league the way we are playing at the moment. And you have cheek to call us 'bad losers' haha thats funniest thing i ever heard on this forum from a guy that gave up on his team just cuz of lack of success in europe.
 
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Anyways, no disrespect intended, but some of the people that post in this forum and are ManUtd fans are extremely inconsistent. If ManUtd wins you already start saying the title race is on blah blah blah... If ya lose you say the usual that it's over, want fergie's head blah blah..
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Yeah you're right. The way the guys are talking it's like United isn't the second in the league table, and the league's top scorer isn't Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

I think it can only get better from here on guys.
Also, Fergie stays!
 
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Defintley fergie stays. I know its been said by media and by the man himself many ocassions, but United are in rebuilding process. Let fergie do what he is doing and if it fails then he got to be sacked. But its too soon to sack SAF when he hasnt finished his job of replacing old players with new ones.
 
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Alucard said:
Defintley fergie stays. I know its been said by media and by the man himself many ocassions, but United are in rebuilding process. Let fergie do what he is doing and if it fails then he got to be sacked. But its too soon to sack SAF when he hasnt finished his job of replacing old players with new ones.
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But at what point do you call it a failure?
 
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I never gave up on a Man Utd because of lack of success...hell man i was a fan when they got relegated...i've been a fan for years when they had no success at all...in those times a cup final was considered a success...i've been a fan of players like Robson, Moses, Ince, Mc Illvoy, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Gordon Mc Queen, Jesper Olsen, Norman Whiteside,...all those years i was a big fan.
I stopped being a fan the year after the treble when United decided not to play in the FA Cup because they favoured some shitty touranment by FIFA (where they were slaughtered to my extreme deight).
I stopped being a fan because Man Utd is more a corporate business than a football club...because Man Utd used to be the club of the masses and isn't any more...(and that must be the only point where i agree with Ferguson, that was also the reason why Cantona quit...).
Maybe one day i will be a fan again perhaps after they will go bust or relegate (and don't laugh, in football everything is possible...after all who would have thought that five or six year after their first European triumph Unite would face relegation).
I have much respect for the fans who have quit last year and started the Manchester equivalent for AFC Wimbledon...they really care about football.
I will never be a fan of another team like a was a United fan, but i don't want to associate with Man Utd after the treble.
 
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When he actually fails seriously? It's not his fault that we went without winning anything last season, we had horrible luck. This season is looking pretty good, except for the CL knockout.
 
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Anybody know what's happened with the Obi Mikel fiasco? We're supposed to get him in the January transfer window.
 
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RuneEdge said:
But at what point do you call it a failure?
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When he has pushed the team as far it can go and has not made any progress,if that makes any sense. I know you can argue that we havnt made any progress in the last few seasons but that happens at any big football club they have bad periods. Just look at ac milan,real madrid or barcelona they are teams that have been through bad periods but built new sides and came back stronger.

Plus its not fair judging the manager half way through season. There still is alot to play and if by possibility we win the league or fa cup, all this 'sack SAF' will be bin talk.
 
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Stan said:
I never gave up on a Man Utd because of lack of success...hell man i was a fan when they got relegated...i've been a fan for years when they had no success at all...in those times a cup final was considered a success...i've been a fan of players like Robson, Moses, Ince, Mc Illvoy, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Gordon Mc Queen, Jesper Olsen, Norman Whiteside,...all those years i was a big fan.
I stopped being a fan the year after the treble when United decided not to play in the FA Cup because they favoured some shitty touranment by FIFA (where they were slaughtered to my extreme deight).
I stopped being a fan because Man Utd is more a corporate business than a football club...because Man Utd used to be the club of the masses and isn't any more...(and that must be the only point where i agree with Ferguson, that was also the reason why Cantona quit...).
Maybe one day i will be a fan again perhaps after they will go bust or relegate (and don't laugh, in football everything is possible...after all who would have thought that five or six year after their first European triumph Unite would face relegation).
I have much respect for the fans who have quit last year and started the Manchester equivalent for AFC Wimbledon...they really care about football.
I will never be a fan of another team like a was a United fan, but i don't want to associate with Man Utd after the treble.
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Fair enough i can respect your decision. I thought you were just fed up because SAF is in charge and we under achieve in europe.
 
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lumlum said:
When he actually fails seriously? It's not his fault that we went without winning anything last season, we had horrible luck. This season is looking pretty good, except for the CL knockout.
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Obviously its not his fault directly and I'm not blaming him for that. I'm blaming him for not being able to do anything about it.

Alucard said:
When he has pushed the team as far it can go and has not made any progress,if that makes any sense.
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But if you push a team as far as it can go and not get anything, thats the players fault and not the manager.
The managers fault here is not being about to push the team as far as they can go in the first place.
 
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Well rune what i meant was if fergie gets all the players he wants with all the resources at his disposal and still no success then he should go. But he hasnt got the players yet to complete his squad, the team you see now is not the finished article. Give the guy two more seasons to change things as thats what he deserves after bringing so much success to the club that we expect to win evry season.

I mean look at arsenal, do you think just coz they go two seasons without premiership they gonna start talking about letting wenger go and he hasnt even got to CL final with arsenal.

Overall we need to calm down, we are second in the league and i cant remember the last game we lost. 2 defeats only is good. Its just the standard in premiership has got higher, every team is improving, chelsea are about a season ahead of us. We need time and patience to adapt
 
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Alucard said:
Man you have to wonder why park wasnt playing after he provided such a good display in his last few matches.
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Park was most likely given a rest. The man played like 3 or 4 straight games mostly as a starter so I'm sure SAF wanted to rest him (and SAF seemed really reluctant to bring him or Giggs against brum at all and he only did it when they tied the game). Though Park has that great stamina everyone knows about, the harsh schedule is probably really tough even on him.

Plus SAF most likely wanted Ronaldo to get badly needed minutes as well. Park will probably start against Bolton and Ronaldo will probably start against Arsenal... that's my guess.
 
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^^ You dont rest players when they are in top form and when there is important games.
 
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Alucard said:
^^ You dont rest players when they are in top form and when there is important games.
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It's true, but I really don't see any other reasons on why Park would have been benched (especially when he scored against Brum little more than a week ago). And this is a tough schedule for any team so players must be rotated. Ronaldo needed some minutes too, if he is ever going to get back into form.
 
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I can't wait for tomorrow's game!
"...I do love to love to beat Arsenal - I can't deny that." - Van Nistelrooy (Link)
I can't deny it either, Ruud!
 
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Reyes said:
Meanwhile, Jose Antonio Reyes has admitted he is happy to be only facing one Neville brother in next week's clash.
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LMAO :lmao:
 
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Revan said:
Any truth to the rumours about Silvestre abandoning ship?
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I hope so, he's absolutely useless.

Yesterday, I was glad we won (obviously) but I was annoyed by the result. It's just crap that we can beat Bolton 4-1, a good quality team, challenging for European places. But we couldn't beat Birmingham. Just typical of why the title is Chelsea's and not ours.

Oh yeah, we'll beat Arsenal......
 
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