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Reason why Mourinho is doing well - hes managing to adapt the European tactics into English football - players are good aswell, but mainly his tactics. Look at their goal and defenc record.
 
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beachryan said:
I wonder how Ruud is doing in practice. He'll be back, but it is beginning to worry me how long its going to take. I don't think its just his fault, I think the style of play changed while he was out, to more of 'give it to Rooney and Ronaldo and hope they make something happen' strategy. Which isn't good.
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Thats very true. I remember when Gary Neville was once asked how his relationship with Ronaldo is like compared to Beckham. He said that with Beckham, you'd have to do more work such as going on the over lap and doing clever one-twos. But with Ronaldo, its more about giving the kid the ball and letting him run with it.
 
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Anyone else tired of Dangerous Daves stupidity?
 
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i was going to start this post by saying how our problem this season has been a lack of creativity in midfield. i was then going to bemoan the system we play, namely 4-5-1, a lot of the time. (though i still believe we need to address both issues). but then i realised that the Opta stats simply don't back this up. the stats show that: no-one has had more shots than us; no-one has had more corners than us; and also, no-one has hit the woodwork more times than us (hey, maybe it's all down to bad luck! ;) ). no but seriously, this then only leaves one possibility. our shooting/finishing simply hasn't been up to scratch this season. i mean, how else can we have had more shots than anyone else, and STILL be on course to set our lowest goals scored tally for 14 years!? is every goalkeeper in the premiership simply playing a blinder against us? i think not.

there can be no doubt then, that Ruud's injury problems this season has been a major contributing factor to our mediocrity. yes, you can say that he was mis-firing earlier in the season, and that he has failed to score since coming back from injury, but that's not taking in the whole picture. don't forget, he was carrying his injury for quite some time before finally being forced out of commission. plus, he was rushed back too soon (an understandable gamble considering we had Milan next). i know he's been playing recently, but honestly, any real football fan can visibly see he's not 100% fit. if i can see it, i have to ask myself "why can't SAF?"
look at it this way: how many goals is a team like united likely to score in a season? (in all competitions). in 2002/2003 we scored 74 in the league. add on cup competitions and i imagine you're talking close to the 100 mark. now, Ruud has scored 110 goals in 3 seasons. about 37 a season. you simply can't lose nearly 40% of your source of goals and not expect to feel the pinch. i know we're not exactly short of strikers (an understatement if ever there was one!) but there's simply no substitute for someone like RVN. undoubtably the best finisher playing the game today. (note, i said "finisher", not striker, before this sparks off a war of words! lol). but seriously, he's not like any of the other top strikers in the game (henry, schevchenko, ronaldo, adriano etc) in that he simply knows exactly where to be in the box at the right time, and how to put the ball in the net. no taking the ball round the entire opposition, no freekicks into the top corner, and no fancy flip-flaps or whatnot, just BALL -> NET....Goal. i mean i'm sure you've all heard the stat that he's never scored a goal for us from outside the penalty box, but when you think of the number of goals that is, it's just friggin crazy! not even one! lol lethal-on-a-stick
next season, if we can keep RVN injury free, we'll see a turn-around. trust me!

hmmm, sort of lost myself there, went off on one! :oops: :mrgreen:
 
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You have a fair point mate. But I'm not really placing blame on one player. Thats unfair. The team as a whole are letting themselves down. Theres no one in the team to motivate at times. Keane wasnt playing against Norwich I think which could be why we lost. Some players are getting lazy and not giving 100% for the team.
And the manager is having serious problems with his selection of tactics.
We cant blame Ruud cuz he's physically not 100% but to his credit, he has actually made quite a few assists this season which people dont pick up on cuz its not his job.
 
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I simply think that Fergie underestimated Norwich and made too many changes. It back fired. Norwich must have seen that team sheet before the game and it give them a lift no doubt. Its strange how things pan out. Our problem this season is in defence, yours is in attack.
 
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Change of subject : I think Fergie will bring the 4-3-3/4-5-1 back into play against Newcastle.

-----------------Howard
G.Neville Ferdinand Silvestre Heinze

-------Scholes Keane Fortune(?)
--Rooney---------------------Ronaldo
---------------Ruud
 
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This is probably what i hate the most, when Fergie sticks Rooney out on the wing. Anyone in their right mind can tell you he should be playing upfront either with Ruud or just behind him.
 
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You guys know what could boost our attacking options?...Putting Silvestre on LB and Heinze as a CB.In my opinion,Heinze always has the engine and gets into promising attacking positions,its just that,he not good enuff in putting in quality crosses.Silvestre however is superb with his long balls and crossing,this is well proven.I wonder why Sir Alex dosent see this,Heinze isnt a natural leftback anyways while Silvestre is!

Anyways this would be my preferred formation against Newcastle.

----------------------Howard----------------------
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----------------Rio------------Heinze--------------
--G.Nev---------------------------------Silvestre--
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---Ronaldo-------------------------------Giggs-----
----------------------Rooney----------------------
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PERFECT.
 
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Good point Phrase but i think the reason for that is Rio and Heinze might have communication problems in the middle but that is what i would prefer aswell, maybe thats what Heinze prefers or so ive heard.
 
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yeah cos im stupid as im the only fan who actually goes to matches, who would bleed for united, who has supported them for 15 years and is from Manchester, not Oslo, Kuala Lumpa or wherever else you lot (who watch MUTV and therefore think you're a Manchester United supporter) live. How exactly do you lot support United?

NB. Respect to phase if he is from the republic of mancunia

Some people have short memories. Beckham was dropped for Solskjaer for the last three months of the season two years ago when we won the league.

Ronaldo was not bought as Beckhams replacement. He was signed as Ronaldinhos replacement. Fergie even said we signed him a year too soon (we had an agreement with Sporting Lisbon) solely cos of the lack of signing Ronaldinho. Its was solskjaers injury in the forst month of the season that was the problem. Im well aware Ole is or was a striker, but he was playing excellently on the right, and better than Beckham had for a while.

And Beckham obviously did want to leave if he didnt sign a new contract and his management team were negotiating with Madrid hence them knowing about the fact he was not starting the 2nd leg of the quarter final.


And as for you lot slating van Nistelrooy earlier, words fail me. The best striker the club has ever had, and just cos after three months out he isnt on form you all jump on him.

You lot havent a clue. You probably all want Glazer to buy the club.
 
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phrase said:
You guys know what could boost our attacking options?...Putting Silvestre on LB and Heinze as a CB.In my opinion,Heinze always has the engine and gets into promising attacking positions,its just that,he not good enuff in putting in quality crosses.Silvestre however is superb with his long balls and crossing,this is well proven.I wonder why Sir Alex dosent see this,Heinze isnt a natural leftback anyways while Silvestre is!

Anyways this would be my preferred formation against Newcastle.

----------------------Howard----------------------
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----------------Rio------------Heinze--------------
--G.Nev---------------------------------Silvestre--
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----------------Keano-------Scholes---------------
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---Ronaldo-------------------------------Giggs-----
----------------------Rooney----------------------
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-------------------v.Nistelrooy--------------------

PERFECT.
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Maybe im wrong here, but isnt Rooney a pure goal machine when hes upfront? With England he kept scoring goals as the furthest striker up, and with Fenerbahce he was also far up. But everytime i see Rooney play behind RVN he doesnt perform.

WOuldnt it be wiser to put Rooney next to or ahead of RVN as hes got quick feet and good finishing? Hes proved that with England hasnt he? And with Everton he was a striker instead of a supporting striker wasnt he?
 
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I picked this post out from the soccergaming forum,man united thread.

"there have been reports saying that there is a guy richer russian than Roman waiting in the background for all the glazer stuff to die down... it isn't over yet..."

Any info about this?...Vann,Footiebella,hutch?
 
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I hope not. That would be awful
 
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knh4 said:
Theres the problem. We can not be a Milan or a Juventus. We can only be Manchester United. We played some of the most flowing beautiful football with the 4-4-2 and won championship after championship. Individualy we have some of the best players in Europe yet look at how we're performing.
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Fecking true! I still remember that fantastic football Man Utd had with Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke, and after them with Ruud! How can I forget that CL final! ;)

Good old days! :)
 
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Dangerous Dave said:
yeah cos im stupid as im the only fan who actually goes to matches, who would bleed for united, who has supported them for 15 years and is from Manchester, not Oslo, Kuala Lumpa or wherever else you lot (who watch MUTV and therefore think you're a Manchester United supporter) live. How exactly do you lot support United?.
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Its phrase btw...anyways Dave,its the passion that counts.I dosent matter where u are from or who u are.You would be surprised if u actually meet fans from asia who knows the club inside out than a pure mancunian.(if theres one)
Respect shown,respect given back,its all love dude.

Dangerous Dave said:
Ronaldo was not bought as Beckhams replacement. He was signed as Ronaldinhos replacement. Fergie even said we signed him a year too soon (we had an agreement with Sporting Lisbon) solely cos of the lack of signing Ronaldinho. Its was solskjaers injury in the forst month of the season that was the problem. Im well aware Ole is or was a striker, but he was playing excellently on the right, and better than Beckham had for a while.
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Yeah,we signed Ronaldo after failing to sign Ronaldinho.We signed him a year too soon AND because of Chelsea and Liverpoool too.Roman and Houllier wanted the boy also and this cause his price tag to rise to 12 mill(if i'm not wrong) We were supposed to get Quaresma instead of Ronnie,but he then went to Barcelona and our attentioned shifted to Ronnie.He was terrorising our defenders so much so during that friendly game in Lisbon,our players had to beg Sir Alex,on the way back to manchester,to buy him!
 
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he was amazing that game, was sat at home and couldnt believe how good he was. i knew we had been linked with the kid, but i didnt think he was as special as he was. probably still the best performance ive seen from him
 
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Hey dangerous dave i read your post. Just coz you been supporter for 15years and been to lots of games over the years, that does not make you the most knowledgeable person about football. There are loads of supporters who have been supporting their club for long time and live in same city etc but when it comes to knowing their football, they chat shit which they think is true and think they are so great and important for being supporter for so long.

So anybody outside manchester cant support man utd is that what your saying?
Also nobody said that they wanted Glazer to take over although it might be wise considering the plc have upped the ticket prices and now serious low on money which we have to give back to raise some profits.

And how can Ronaldo be a replacement for ronaldinho when we didnt even have the guy(Ronaldinho) in the first place, that makes no sense. IMO ronaldinho was suppose to be beckhams replacement, when that failed we got Ronaldo to fill becks boots, why you think he got his number 7 shirt.

I agree van nistelrooy is one of the best strikers we ever had and I blame nothing on him this season coz he has been unlucky. I belive we need to put 442,thats two strikers up front not one striker playing behind bollox.
 
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because ferguson expected ronaldinho to be signed before kenyon fucked it up. he has even said it himself.

you think getting glazer in might be wise? are you stupid?
 
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Dude,anyone from anywhere can support any team they wish.Its the passion that counts.Ronaldo was Ronaldinho's replacement as a signing,not a replacement for Beckham.Besides,he was playing on the left for Sporting when they had that friendly game.I think he was given the number 7 just to rub salt in Beckham's wound,a virtually unknown player,got a first eleven number,beckham's number,and to make fans forget Beckham easily.I believe Becks was got "rid off" rather than being transferred to madrid,its all business.
 
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I still think the center of the midfield is the problem, not the formation! Age has struck Keane, Kleberson hasn't got the caliber for Man Utd. Even Maniche would do a better job! Fergie should keep his eye on Pedro Mendes, he is probably cheap and a decent player better IMO than Kleberson!

Well I'm not gonna start here saying what player they should buy. You all are saying that they should roll back to a 442. It's probably a better idea considering the player Man Utd has, but I still think it's the way to solve things!
 
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Dangerous Dave said:
yeah cos im stupid as im the only fan who actually goes to matches, who would bleed for united, who has supported them for 15 years and is from Manchester, not Oslo, Kuala Lumpa or wherever else you lot (who watch MUTV and therefore think you're a Manchester United supporter) live. How exactly do you lot support United?
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Its not about where you live or whether you go to watch the games or anything. Thats just stupid. There are a million times more Man U fans outside Manchster than inside. Are they all just supposed to stop supporting? And Man Utd's success partly comes from all these fans because we are where PLC makes there money from. If it wasnt for guys like me, the team that you're supporting would possibly be in a lower league.

Dangerous Dave said:
Ronaldo was not bought as Beckhams replacement. He was signed as Ronaldinhos replacement. Fergie even said we signed him a year too soon (we had an agreement with Sporting Lisbon) solely cos of the lack of signing Ronaldinho. Its was solskjaers injury in the forst month of the season that was the problem. Im well aware Ole is or was a striker, but he was playing excellently on the right, and better than Beckham had for a while.
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First of all, how do you replace someone you dont even have? Ronaldo was Beckham's replacement. Beckham was only dropped because of the boot incident in the changing rooms and the o going feud between him and Sir Alex. Thats the only reason why he was on the bench during the Real game. Why else would he be on the bench? As soon as he came on in that game, he scored twice.


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And Beckham obviously did want to leave if he didnt sign a new contract and his management team were negotiating with Madrid hence them knowing about the fact he was not starting the 2nd leg of the quarter final.
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Giggs hasnt signed a new contract. What are your opinions of him then? Is he a liar and a traitor too?

Dangerous Dave said:
And as for you lot slating van Nistelrooy earlier, words fail me. The best striker the club has ever had, and just cos after three months out he isnt on form you all jump on him.
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No one said anything about Ruud. I'm blaming the team as a whole, not one individual player. I was actually praising him for his assists.

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You lot havent a clue. You probably all want Glazer to buy the club.
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And you sound like a 13 year old who thinks that just cuz you're from manchester, you are a superior fan and more important. All you're doing is making yourself sound like an ass. You obviously dont know what you're talking about.

phrase said:
You guys know what could boost our attacking options?...Putting Silvestre on LB and Heinze as a CB.In my opinion,Heinze always has the engine and gets into promising attacking positions,its just that,he not good enuff in putting in quality crosses.Silvestre however is superb with his long balls and crossing,this is well proven.I wonder why Sir Alex dosent see this,Heinze isnt a natural leftback anyways while Silvestre is!
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I remember suggesting this about a month before christmas but I remember people saying (which is a fair point) that Heinze cant speak english well so he cant communicate with Rio. Silvestre can. And on MUTV, Heinze said that he finds it easy on the left cuz he and Silvestre can speak in french (Heinze came from PSG remember?)

phrase said:
"there have been reports saying that there is a guy richer russian than Roman waiting in the background for all the glazer stuff to die down... it isn't over yet..."
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These are old news/rumours. Apparantly, another russian, who also knows Roman very well, is waiting for the Glazer deal to break up and then (this is what the newspaper said) he'll show up like a "knight in shining armour" to save Man Utd.
Not sure if its true but I wouldnt want it. Look what happened to Leeds. From the CL Semi finals all the way to the championship.
 
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Just one quick question why support a team if you are not from or associated with the area they are from?
 
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well, i ll answer first as i am asked this all the time. firstly, i grew up watching man united as many chinese children were in HK. second part... what, do you want me to start supported toronto lynx? i think not...

-fb
 
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rune your an absolute tool and everything that is wrong with uniteds so called "support" in every corner of the globe. you have said yourself the plc use you to make money. You dont feel bad about that? United are using you and exploiting you, and your too stupid to realise. But hey you have MUTV so your opinion counts alot! The fact you think if it wasnt for "guys like you" United would be in a lower division just shows for how long you have actually been a fan, how little you know about the team I love, and how you will never truly understand what it is to be a proper fan.

You support the team where you are from, or if there is a family connection, the team that say a prominent member of your family supports.

Beckham was on the bench for the Madrid game because Solskjaer was playnig amazingly as a right sided attacking midfielder, hence Beckham being out of the starting eleven for the last three months of his final season. He was on the bench because Ole was better than him.

No Giggs isnt a liar and a traitor. Why would he be, He's loyal and puts United first. Great player. A legend.
 
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jamie_mack said:
Just one quick question why support a team if you are not from or associated with the area they are from?
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I was introduced to football by my uncle in manchester, and I use to stay with him when I was younger. So just before you ask, that question doesnt really apply to me.
And I dont see why it matters to people if you live somewhere other than Manchester. What part of the word "support" means having to side with something you're associated with? If you move homes, do you change your team too? This question is only brought up when its got to do with big clubs like Arsenal and Man Utd. If someone decided to support a div2 team, people wouldnt be having this conversation. If they are glory supporters then who cares (I'm not saying I'm one). All that counts to me is whether a person is doing their bit for the team which is (obviously) cheering them on and supporting the club financially like paying to watch games. I'd pick a glory supporter that gave free money to Man Utd (like Abramovich) over a supporter from Manchester any day.
 
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Rune edge your last sentence proves your an idiot of the kind i haven't encountered in a very long time.


glory supporters are scum. what counts is loyalty. thats all you can ask for from a fan, so kinda goes against what you are saying
 
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