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bobogol said:
I'm really looking forward to seeing who you field against Milan, what is the team likely to be?
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Expect it to be our strongest team. van Nistelrooy should be back by then, Smith will be fit, Giggs will be back from injury too so that everyone except Solskjaer.

Solskjaer said on MUTV that there is a slight possiblity that he might be back for the last few games of the season so lets all hope he makes it.
 
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good weekend all round on the footy front.

rooney just had to score at the kop, first class celebration IMO, FA are right (for once) to let it go. The MF was 1st class, Keano showed that although Gerrard could be heir to his throne as he best DMF in the country he's not there yet. Scholsey and Fletch also did a crackin job and good to see Saha get another game under his belt.

bolton once again "did" the arse wipes for us, they are falling apart, its taken Fergie a few years to chip away at The Whingers cool calm and collect appearence but he's finally done it, Wenger did a "keegan" and lost it, quality.

not much we can do about chelsea tbh but as its arsenals title to lose and not ours if we get a strong finish in second place and get the automatic CL then its an improvement on last year which is what most realistic reds wanted for this year.

The cups and europe can come down to luck as much as anything else so its difficult to see how we're gonna do, all I can say is that if we continue to defend like we are and get our strikers up and running then we're in with a shout as much as anyone else.

its just warming up nicely.......
 
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Totally agree that wenger done a keegan and lost it,he cracked lol. So funny to see wenger feeling the pressure, he looks like he mught break down and cry. I so cant wait to we play next month and kick their asses again.

Hopefully next season we can get the better of mourinho and his team. I dont mind chelsea winning it this year coz as you said its arsenals title to lose, so ill be happy with second place and who knows we might come back again like we did two seasons ago against arsenal or like we did against newcastle
 
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the interview that finally exposed the arse wipes for what they are also had some crackin comments about tons of other stuff:

from the independent

full interview located @ http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/man_united/story.jsp?story=601025

on rooney:

"As soon as he became available I knew we had to sign him. I spoke to David Moyes several times. I said: 'If he ever becomes available don't let me down.' The word came back to me when he was 14, 'There's a boy at Everton.' We could have got him then but he wouldn't leave, and he wouldn't leave at 16 either. I can understand that, he is a local boy. But the European Championship changed his mind. Once they decided to sell him we couldn't afford not to get him."

"He's been doing well. He's had been some quiet games but he is 19. Ronaldo was the same last year, but he can explode in games. Once they get maturity they'll get consistency and they'll get better. In three or four years' time they'll be very good."

Rooney, of course, has been involved in some scrapes, most recently the incident with Bolton's Tal Ben Haim, which cost him a three-match ban. "He's like any 19-year-old. Obviously he's a winner. He doesn't like losing. He has a temper. You can't put a 30-year-old head on him. Unfortunately, unlike every other 19-year-old he is being assessed differently. Violent conduct? Do me a favour.

"He's actually a quiet boy with great enthusiasm in training. He loves training. I used to just have one problem on the training ground, which was Scholes. Now there are two of them. They get on early and you can't get them off after. They batter balls all over the place and one of them will hit me one day and kill me. That Scholes sends them inches by my head. Then all they hear is me bellowing 'Scholes!' 'What?' he says, looking up like an angel. And they hit the ball hard. Gary Neville was having a piss one day, 45 yards
away by the fence. Scholes whacked him right in the arse."

QUALITY!!!!!

On learning from the scousers mistakes:

He is aware, though, that if he drops his guard it could all end overnight. In proof were needed, Ferguson need do no more than stop by the trophy room when United visit Anfield this lunchtime. Who would have thought, after Liverpool had won their 10th title in 15 years in 1990, that the next 14 seasons would be barren? One of Ferguson's staff did.

"I always remember Jim Ryan saying to me just after he joined us: 'Liverpool have massive problems.' I said: 'What makes you think that?' He said: 'It's the age of their team. They are bringing in players like [David] Speedie, aged 31, [Ronny] Rosenthal, in his late twenties, Jimmy Carter.' They were not bringing in young kids, like Arsenal and myself have done, to give them a future. I looked at the age of their team and said 'Christ, where are the young players?' It was just Steve Staunton. Not until Graeme [Souness] arrived did it change. They were buying short-term fixes.

"I always remember Jimmy Sirrell [the former Notts County manager] saying to me when I first became a coach, back in '73, at a coaching school ... He said: "Never let your players all come to the end of their contract, or ages. Always make sure there is a balance." For us that means having one or two midfield players whose contracts are up in 2003, two in 2004, two in 2005, so they can't come to you at the same time, so they don't have you by the balls. David Gill [the chairman] and I have been looking at that this morning * when contracts are finishing.

"I could easily have stuck with the same players for my last two or three years and said to the next man: 'It's up to you.' But you can't work that way. This is a fantastic club and it deserves everyone paying attention to the future. I recognised that I had a string of midfield players all coming to their thirties at the same time: Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Butt, Beckham."

Read the full interview, you wont see a more frank talk with The Boss anywhere else. Funnily enough the stuff regarding the goons was first "off the record" only for fergie to change his mind, stroke of genius, maybe, its seems to have done the trick, wenger lost the plot and bolton beat the goons....

do the math!
 
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Rooney, of course, has been involved in some scrapes, most recently the incident with Bolton's Tal Ben Haim, which cost him a three-match ban. "He's like any 19-year-old. Obviously he's a winner. He doesn't like losing. He has a temper. You can't put a 30-year-old head on him. Unfortunately, unlike every other 19-year-old he is being assessed differently. Violent conduct? Do me a favour."


Since when do 19 yr olds enjoy fighting or beating people up when losing????
 
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you aint 19 yet ;) you never know. anyway, i think fergie may be commenting about 19 year old magic footballers like rooney himself. 19 is an age where they're not fully adults yet, and in the football world, they're piled with pressure to perform or to carry themselves accordingly. these same teens won't want to be restricted within rules, and if they're a "winner" like rooney, then its even worse when they lose

:mrgreen: love that comment about good ol' scholesy! :D

-fb
 
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Vannizzlefashizzal said:
Gary Neville was having a piss one day, 45 yards
away by the fence. Scholes whacked him right in the arse."
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:mrgreen: :lol:
 
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You dont see playerse like Tevez, Saviola, Bojinov, Kuranyi going around killing people when they were 18/19. Only case of consistant violence from a 19 yr old ive seen or heard.
 
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Killing people!!!!!!!!! consistent violence ?? what are you on about man? errrrr and isn't that the very same Tevez who was sent off at Old Trafford a couple of years ago in a pre season charity match??
 
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Im obviously exaggerating. Im not saying consistant violence as in every match but every few matches theres news on Rooney saying he might get busted, or hes done a dirty tackle etc. Hes doing alot of it lately, against ...forgot who.. last match.

Tevez was one case, well that I know of, but Rooney has been more than 3 times this season from what ive seen, and thats almost every game of United.
 
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Milanista said:
Im obviously exaggerating. Im not saying consistant violence as in every match but every few matches theres news on Rooney saying he might get busted, or hes done a dirty tackle etc. Hes doing alot of it lately, against ...forgot who.. last match.

Tevez was one case, well that I know of, but Rooney has been more than 3 times this season from what ive seen, and thats almost every game of United.
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your way off mate, he's had one ban and maybe two/three yellows thats hardly the record of a violent man.
 
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off topic but this made me luagh:

Wenger is again making headlines for all the wrong reasons today.

Talking to French television station TPS, he declared: 'Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality.

'He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise.

'He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time and lost a lot of credibility by saying what he said.'

Wenger could also not resist a cheeky jibe at United's lucky escape against Tottenham recently, when Spurs were denied a clear-cut goal that was adjudged not to have crossed the line.

'We need video replays,' said Wenger. 'United would be mid-table if officials had the benefit of them.'
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I think its the media that shows Rooney as some kind of madman. He actually isn't really like that. There was only two real times when he blew up. That was against Bolton (when Ben Haim went down far too easily, but it was still a push by Rooney) and the friendly against Spain (that was blown out of proportion).
 
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Milanista said:
off topic but this made me luagh:
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the guy has lost the plot, 1st he says he wont speak about fergie again, next day he starts ranting.

Funny thing about wenger is that he sounds so convinced that he's right but all of his points are see thru, based on what he's waffling about today his arsewipes would have never won the league undefeated last year....

he's a walking contridiction.
 
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You know why you always hear about Rooney and what he has done or not? Its because of his price tag,cos he's playing with Man United and because people tend to forget that hes only 19.Its his enourmous talent that made everyone think he's a 30 year old and should'nt be doing silly things.
 
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phrase said:
You know why you always hear about Rooney and what he has done or not? Its because of his price tag,cos he's playing with Man United and because people tend to forget that hes only 19.Its his enourmous talent that made everyone think he's a 30 year old and should'nt be doing silly things.
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ya spot on, people think we p'noid but if rooney had grabbed a chelsea player by the throat as drogba did to fortune it would have been all over the press.
 
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exactly the same thing with his so called 'confrontational' ear cupping celebration. I mean come on how many players have u seen do that after a goal - but when Rooney does it, it all gets blown up. Its bollocks to be honest but when you are a young talented player the press love to build you up and knock you down - its help sells their papers
 
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stiffler said:
exactly the same thing with his so called 'confrontational' ear cupping celebration. I mean come on how many players have u seen do that after a goal - but when Rooney does it, it all gets blown up. Its bollocks to be honest but when you are a young talented player the press love to build you up and knock you down - its help sells their papers
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again spot on, henry is one of the worst for winding fans up but never gets pulled up for it, yet rooney does it and its big news...
 
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Vannizzlefashizzal said:
your way off mate, he's had one ban and maybe two/three yellows thats hardly the record of a violent man.
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Well, on Sky Sports on Saturday they said that Rooney had now scored 19 Premiership goals and had also picked up 19 Premiership bookings (plus a sending off). If that's true then it's a shocking record, especially when you consider that it should really be 19 bookings and 2 red cards after the Bolton game.

No one's doubting his talent, but the lad is definitely lacking in the brains department occasionally (the England game in Madrid being the prime example), and if he doesn't sort it out soon then the top quality International and European club sides will start to target him by winding him up and trying to get him sent off. Hopefully he'll grow out of it in a year or two, but judging by a couple of his reactions against Liverpool, as well as the Bolton incident, it's going to be a slow learning curve.
 
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Stu-Pid said:
Well, on Sky Sports on Saturday they said that Rooney had now scored 19 Premiership goals and had also picked up 19 Premiership bookings (plus a sending off). If that's true then it's a shocking record, especially when you consider that it should really be 19 bookings and 2 red cards after the Bolton game.

No one's doubting his talent, but the lad is definitely lacking in the brains department occasionally (the England game in Madrid being the prime example), and if he doesn't sort it out soon then the top quality International and European club sides will start to target him by winding him up and trying to get him sent off. Hopefully he'll grow out of it in a year or two, but judging by a couple of his reactions against Liverpool, as well as the Bolton incident, it's going to be a slow learning curve.
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well since he's joined us ive not seen this "attitide" that people are talking about.

people are making too much of it, he's a young lad he will mature.
 
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Timo Hildebrand will leave VfB Stuttgart at the end of the season. I think he would be a great keeper for the future.
 
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he would be a pretty good pick up for us, im reading good stuff on him from all sorts of web sources

-fb
 
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He did well against us been we played Stuttgart last year in the Champions League. Unlucky to give away a penalty against Ronaldo. ;)
 
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Giggs might be playing today. Thats a huge boost going into a tough period with Chelsea in the Carling Cup, Arsenal on 1st Feb and AC Milan in the Champions League.

Something interesting in that Sir Alex interview was that if we qualify to the semis of the FA Cup, our game against Chelsea in the league will be moved to become our second last match of the league.
If Chelsea have their blip and we close the gap on them, imagine how great it would be to beat them at the end of the season to win the title.
I know I'm only dreaming but still...
 
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New Number 1?
Timo Hildebrand, linked with a move to Manchester United in some quarters over the weekend, is ready to leave Stuttgart.The highly-rated keeper is behind Oliver Kahn and Jens Lehmann in the pecking order for Jurgen Klinsmann's Germany side but has been a consistent performer in Die Bundesliga.Stuttgart have already declared an interest in acquiring Lehmann as a replacement, and Arsenal could consider Hildebrand as a potential recruit themselves if Arsene Wenger seeks a new keeper in the summer.However, it was Premiership rivals United who were linked with a move for the Worms-born shot-stopper in some tabloid newspapers on Sunday."We regret his decision but accept the fact that Timo has decided to reject our offer," lamented Stuttgart president Erwin Staudt.
SkySports.com
 
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RuneEdge said:
Giggs might be playing today. Thats a huge boost going into a tough period with Chelsea in the Carling Cup, Arsenal on 1st Feb and AC Milan in the Champions League.

Something interesting in that Sir Alex interview was that if we qualify to the semis of the FA Cup, our game against Chelsea in the league will be moved to become our second last match of the league.
If Chelsea have their blip and we close the gap on them, imagine how great it would be to beat them at the end of the season to win the title.
I know I'm only dreaming but still...
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well, good thing, giggsy is more than just fit, he's starting tonight:

----------------Howard
G Neville---P neville---Sheasy--Fortune
---------------Miller
----------Djemba--Scholes
Ronaldo---------------------------Giggs
---------------Rooney

those are the players, but im not sure if that's the formation

-fb
 
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phrase said:
New Number 1?
Timo Hildebrand, linked with a move to Manchester United in some quarters over the weekend, is ready to leave Stuttgart.The highly-rated keeper is behind Oliver Kahn and Jens Lehmann in the pecking order for Jurgen Klinsmann's Germany side but has been a consistent performer in Die Bundesliga.Stuttgart have already declared an interest in acquiring Lehmann as a replacement, and Arsenal could consider Hildebrand as a potential recruit themselves if Arsene Wenger seeks a new keeper in the summer.However, it was Premiership rivals United who were linked with a move for the Worms-born shot-stopper in some tabloid newspapers on Sunday."We regret his decision but accept the fact that Timo has decided to reject our offer," lamented Stuttgart president Erwin Staudt.
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Im not just saying this cz imma Arsenal fan, but the fact that Arsene can speak German might just swing him towards us. But then again united can probably offer a better deal.
 
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Pires7 said:
Im not just saying this cz imma Arsenal fan, but the fact that Arsene can speak German might just swing him towards us. But then again united can probably offer a better deal.
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But I think Hildebrand will consider twice if he wants to meet the same fate as Lehmann.
 
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Poor performance, though not as bad as the commentator I had tried to make it seem. Comfortable first half til the end. Pitch was only conducive to long balls in the air, not exactly United's forte, so didn't have the usual flow in the offense. Should have converted a few other chances, but so should Exeter. Was not impressed by the defence, and seriously, what is it SAF likes so much about Djemba Djemba? Only thing I can think of is that he is trying to show him off so someone wants to buy him. Which given the amount he generally contributes, could backfire really...

Onto boro...
 
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